One of the things that I really try
to focus on every day with Bella
is setting a proper example for her.
I feel like I need to be there
in her life, to show her
how a mother's really supposed to act.
When Bella got into the car,
it was obvious that she had no stranger danger.
She never cried about us picking her up.
She acted like it was a little vacation for her.
Very happy, very cheerful.
She actually didn't ask about her mom
for three weeks.
Bella calls me Mom.
She obviously felt very comfortable with it.
I've told Bella several times,
"You can call me Sarah.
"It won't hurt my feelings."
and she said she wants to call me Mom.
I asked her therapist
if it was a good idea,
and she told me that since she's comfortable
that I should go ahead and allow it.
I never really met Bronwyn.
I understand that she probably wouldn't like me.
I have thing that I don't like about her,
but I also understand that she might not
mentally be able to be the mom
everybody is hoping that she would be.
The difference between Bronwyn and I
is I'm able to see Bella
as a future adult
and human being.
And Bronwyn
mainly sees
a Barbie doll that she can dress up
and use to get things.
Shut up.
We're not here to look great.
Yeah, we're not here to be pleasant. Shut up.
Okay, take a break here. Take a break here.
I mean, I just wanted to say
this is the first time I've ever seen Sarah
with makeup on.
Like, she looks great. I'm more focused on Bella
than my own makeup and clothes. - I've actually never met
either one of these people before
OK - Yeah that's right! You never met,
you have never met either one of us,
so who are you to tell her or anybody else what happened.
Okay. Hey, hey ,hey, hey.
Listen, if you think that you're going
to yell your way
to some
sort of
desired outcome,
I can assure you, it's not becoming.
My apologies
And if you think it is, trust me when I tell you,
that's not going to play well.
And if you guys are headed to court,
which I can tell you,
if I was advising either side,
I would really advise against that,
because
we'll get to that in a bit, but,
I'm interested,
I'm only doing this story because of this child.
If it wasn't for this child, I wouldn't be here,
and the four of you wouldn't be here.
I'm only interested in what's in this child's best interest,
and I'm curious if anybody else here is interested
in what's in the best interest of the child.
Were you getting subpoenas
and notices of hearings that you were ignoring.
Um, I was not ignoring them, the last subpoena
He ignored them, they have said that in court.
Can I speak?
Sure.
Um, what happened was as that,
I would check the mail,
and either I would get the subpoena the day
after I was supposed to go take a test,
or I tried to call the prosecuting attorney,
and I never got anything back from them.
So the third time, I actually got the subpoena,
and I went in that same day.
Or, about two days later, to finally take the test.
But it was one of those things
where I didn't check the mailbox.
It was totally earnest that I wasn't avoiding anything.
(laughing)
So what about him, what about him denying it
to the sheriffs? What about when the sheriff said,
"Hey we tried Sarah" we have a video of it.
The sheriff said they tried serving you,
multiple times. You said, in a court of law mind you,
we have the transcripts, you said the first time,
that you didn't know where Bronwyn was at.
You had no idea, 'cause she was at her clients house,
doing dog grooming business, so now,
all of a sudden you're a travelling dog groomer,
not just doing it out of your house. -So what's the problem?
which you claim. -I didn't know where she was at the moment
You did. You said it in a court of law.
That's perjury my friend.
Show me. Like, what're you talking about?
What do you mean show you!? You got...
Listen to yourself.
I'm listening very carefully. -No, you're not.
I don't think you guys are there.
You don't hear what you're saying.
Just listen. You think people are laughing
because of no reason? You think I went
all that way to Florida for no reason?
She was claiming help from everybody from you.
Do you realize that? I gave your mom,
I gave her the text messages of her and I talking.
I was telling her, not to break your heart.
So, you didn't have distrust in women,
'cause she already knows the distrust that I have
for my relationship before, which you placated on that.
You knew that there was kids involved,
You knew, you knew. You knew without a doubt.
No, don't tell me to be calm! You be calm!
Can you please calm down
No! I will not calm down!