-Looking sharp as always, my friend.
-Well, I have tough competition here.
-Oh, yeah, please and thank you. -Always.
-You know what we talked about last time you were on the show
was fencing. -Oh, yes.
-You took up fencing. -I did indeed.
-Yeah, and do you still fence, do you compete?
-Well, I've had kind of fencing evolution.
I am no longer going to compete. -Oh.
I've had too many disasters.
I'm old, I'm not going to move quickly.
I should be in the snail bowl. -Oh, wow well, one can wish.
-But I will tell you at the fencing club,
at Tim Morehouse's club on Sunday afternoons,
we have a round robin where everyone fences everyone else,
regardless of age, gender, or experience,
and I just kept getting pummeled and pummeled and pummeled
and pummeled. -Oh.
-However, I did win one bout. And a bout is 5 points.
-Yeah. -I was -- it was amazing.
I won the first point, and I thought,
"Okay, I've done this before."
But I won the second point. -Oh, it builds your confidence.
And now you're... -Then the third.
-Yes! -And then I actually won.
-Yes!
[ Cheers and applause ]
-But... -Who did you, who did you beat?
-I had this horrible moral ethical, humanitarian, crisis
because the person I defeated was four feet tall
and a 9-year-old girl named Aria.
[ Laughter ]
-Hey, man, a win's a win.
I don't know, man. I would take it.
-I went to her mother afterwards and apologized.
I said, "I just had the scent of success and I --
-And you went for it. -I did go for it.
-And she's gotta learn some day.
Yeah, exactly, taught her a lesson.
That's hilarious.
We have so much to talk about.
I wanted to quickly, I saw you,
you were at the swearing in of Nancy Pelosi.
-I was indeed. Honored to be asked.
-How did that feel? What was that experience?
-It was exhilarating, it was inspiring,
we saw our Congress in action.
It was really just so uplifting and wonderful.
-She's something else. She's a tough cookie, right?
-Yeah, but you know, she has a nice soft squishy center.
-Yeah. -She is so just lovely and warm,
and user friendly, and of course smart as a whip.
-She's smart. -She's smart.
-Yeah. -She gets it.
-And she's taking over, isn't she?
-Kind of is, it's unbelievable. -It's fantastic to watch.
-What's you connection with Nancy Pelosi?
-She and I have done a lot together.
When she was the minority leader in the House of Representatives.
she approached me about being part of her LGBT caucus.
And we hosted a lot of events together.
Many of which were in my apartment.
And we just grew very close.
-That's great. -Yeah.
-It must be such an honor to be there.
-An honor and I feel very proud to have been there.
-Ah, good for you. -Yeah.
-Let's talk about this new show or whatever can you tell me
about this, because I know you and Heidi left "Project Runway."
-We did. -And it was very sad,
because you guys rocked it for 16 seasons.
-Well, thank you very much. -And now you go, no,
have an idea for a new show and they're taking it to Amazon.
-Well, I'll tell you, Jimmy, we decided that we had
this new threshold and after 16 great seasons,
let's do something new. -Yeah.
And we went to our show runner for the last 11 seasons
of "Runway" Sara Rea-Trotter and we just said,
"Would you join forces with us?
And help us move forward with this project?"
And Amazon contacted us and the rest is history in a way.
I mean, it will be.
But they have been so fantastic to work with.
Jennifer Salke and her team. -I love Jen Salke.
-I do, too. -But what --
can you say what the show will be?
-Well, it's a reality show. It will be fashion-based.
It's going to bigger and broader than design
and it's going to be very, very global.
-Ah. -Very global.
And Amazon Prime video is in 200 countries.
-Sure. -So global is what we should be.
-And you're casting right now? -We are on -- we're --
castingfashiondesigners.com, I think it is.
-Yeah. -Something like that.
-Yeah. Castingfashiondesigners.com.
You can go and you can submit there.
-Yes. -If you're a designer.
Are they well known designers or straight out of school or --
-No, we want people who have an established reputation.
Because we're really talking about branding.
We're talking about going big. -Wow!
-So it's -- it's a fashion reality show on steroids.
-That would be really fun.
I wanted to ask you one question, too.
We had -- Jerry Seinfeld was on the show pretty recently.
-Oh. -And he told me that
at a certain point men -- you have to stop wearing jeans.
-Well -- depending upon your size and shape.
[ Light laughter ] -Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if I can pull off jeans anymore.
I still wear them but I'm weaning out more toward the --
-You have a great shape. You could wear whatever you wanted.
-Thank you. [ Laughter ]
-I would -- -You hear that, Jerry?
-I had a terrible experience though with jeans.
-You did? -Fairly recently.
I was in a store and I saw a pair of waxed cotton jeans.
They actually looked like leather.
They're very seductive. They're very enticing.
And I thought, "I'm going to try these on.
I don't care if at age sixty-something."
-Yeah. -"I'm going to try these on."
So I asked the sales associate, I held them up.
"Do you think I'm too old for these?"
He didn't miss a beat. He said, "Yes."
-He's a sales person.
He's trying to sell you and he said, "Yes."
-"Yes. Step away from the waxed cotton jeans."
-"Waxed cotton jeans." Okay.
-I can't even try them on. He said, "no."
[ Laughter ]
-"Step away from the wax cotton jeans."
Great advice from a great man. Tim Gunn. We love you buddy.
-Thank you so much, Jimmy. Love you, too.