>> LET’S SEE IF THEY CAN FIND
SOME COMMON GROUND.
WE WILL WATCH.
WE KNOW YOU WILL.
KEVIN, THANK YOU.
LET’S TALK ABOUT THE CHARGES
AGAINST FORMER OFFICER GARRETT
ROLFE AND WHAT IS GOING IN IN
ATLANTA TONIGHT WITH CIVIL
RIGHTS ATTORNEY AND ATLANTA
RADIO SHOW HOST, THE MAYOR OF
INGLEWOOD, CALIFORNIA, POLICE
CHIEF, AND FOX NEWS POLITICAL
GIANNO CALDWELL, WELCOME TO ALL
OF YOU.
>> THANKS, SHANNON.
GO TO BE HERE.
>> WE HAVE THE CHARGES TO AND
POLITICO SAID THIS CONVICTED
FELONY MURDER ONE OF THE
CHARGES, HE COULD FACE LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE OR THE DEATH PENA
NOW, HERE IS WHAT FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR CALLED LAKE AND
FORMER POLICE OFFICER HIMSELF
FROM A POLICE DETECTIVE AND
LAWYER TED WILLIAMS SAID ABOUT T
CHARGES TODAY AS THEY WERE
ANNOUNCED.
>> WE ARE NOT WATCHING JUSTICE
TAKE PLACE HERE.
I DON’T GIVE A -- ABOUT HIS
WHITE/LAC SITUATION.
THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
THIS IS A RUSH TO JUDGMENT, THIS
IS THE SATISFIED CROWD.
PROSECUTION SHOULD NEVER BE
BASED ON SATISFYING A CROWD.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
THIS IS WHOLLY UNFAIR.
>> Shannon: MAYOR, YOU SERVED
AS A POLICE CHIEF AND THESE ARE
DIFFICULT DECISIONS BUT WHAT DO
YOU MAKE OF THIS CHARGES TODAY?
>> IT’S JUST TO BACK UP A LITTLE
BIT.
LET’S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED
HERE.
WE HAVE A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS
DETAINED IN THE WENDY’S
PARKING LOT FOR 40 MINUTES.
HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED BEFORE.
AND AN INTERVIEW OF HIM, HE IS A
GUIDE TRAUMATIZED BY BEING
INCARCERATED UP YOUR THEY CALLED
A DUI EXPERT TO INTERVIEW
HIM.
WHEN THAT HAPPENED, THE GUY WAS
CAST.
THAT OFFICER WAS THERE TO MAKE
SURE HE GOT ANOTHER DUI STAT.
THEY WEREN’T HUMAN, MOST COPS
WOULD HAVE SAID, HEY, PARK YOUR
CAR AND WALK HOME, BUT THEY
ARRESTED HIM.
THEY DIDN’T REALIZE THE
INDIVIDUALS THEY WERE DEALING
WITH.
SOME OF IT WAS VERY TRAUMATIZED,
SCARED AND DIDN’T WANT TO GO
BACK TO JAIL.
THE FIGHT STARTED.
ONCE THE FIGHT STARTED,
ADRENALINE TAKES OVER.
HE SECURES A TASER, HE RUNS, HE
LOOKS LIKE HE FIRES THE TASER AT
THE OFFICER.
AT THAT POINT, THE OFFICER ISN’T
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MANY FEET
THEY ARE APART, HOW MANY ROUNDS
FIRED FROM THE TASER AND HE
FIRES BACK.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, HE KNOWS
NEEDS TO GO BEFORE A JUSTICE.
YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IN A RUNOFF AT A TIME
LIKE THIS WHEN THE WORLD IS
INFLAMED ABOUT THE RACIST THINGS
THAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE FLOYD.
AND TO SAY THAT HE WILL BE
CHARGED WITH AGGRAVATED ASSAULT
BECAUSE ONE OF THE ERRANT ROUNDS
STRUCK ANOTHER VEHICLE SHOWS YOU
THE MIND-SET OF THE PROSECUTOR.
I’M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
ELECTED PEOPLE MAKING
PROSECUTORIAL DECISIONS NOW.
>> Shannon: WILL, AND WHEN IT
COMES TO THE TASER, THERE HAS
BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER
THIS OFFICER FELT LIKE HE WAS
UNDER SIGNIFICANT THREAT AND
OKAY FOR LEGAL FORCE.
THIS IS WHAT THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY, THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
JUST A FEW DAYS AGO ABOUT A
TASER WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT
A CASE IN POTENTIAL CHARGES
AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS FOR THEM
USING THE TASER.
HERE IS WHAT HE SAID.
>> IS MANY OF YOU WANT THE
GEORGIA LAW, A TASER IS
CONSIDERED AS A DEADLY WEAPON ON
THE GEORGIA LAW.
>> OKAY, SO ROBERT, HOW DOES
THAT SQUARE UP WITH WHAT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID TODAY?
>> SHANNON --
>> I PRACTICE LAW IN THE
FULTON COUNTY COURTHOUSE FOR THE
LAST 12 YEARS.
I CAN LITERALLY LOOK OUT THE
WINDOW AND SEE THE FULTON COUNTY
COURTHOUSE.
I HAVE TRIED MANY CASES AGAINST
PAUL HOWARD.
PAUL HOWARD HAS TAKEN THE SIDE
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND POLICE
OFFICERS.
HE’S IN HIS SEVENTH TERM OF
ATTORNEY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
SUPPORT THROUGHOUT HIS TIME IN
OFFICE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE
CRIMINAL DEFENSE BAR HAS
CRITICIZED HIM FOR HIS REASONS
TO ARM ENFORCES.
THE ONE WITH WAREHOUSE AND
SPELLMAN, THE POLICE OFFICERS IN
THIS CASE SEARCHED MR. BROOKS,
THEY KNEW HE DID NOT HAVE A
WEAPON.
THE POLICE OFFICERS KNEW THAT
THE TASER HAD BEEN EXPELLED
WHOSE TIMES AND EMPTY AT THIS
POINT.
THAT THERE WAS NO THREAT WITH
DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THEM AND
THEY STILL CHOSE TO SHOOT THREE
SHOTS AT HIM, TWO WHICH HIT
MR. BROOKS.
ONE WHICH HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE.
THE RECKLESS NATURE OF THAT TO
FIRE A LETHAL ROUND, WHERE OTHER
PEOPLE WHO ARE UNINVOLVED, ONE
HITS ANOTHER VEHICLE WITH OTHER
INDIVIDUALS IS BEYOND -- THIS IS
WHY WE HAVE CHARGES ON THE CASE.
THE IDEA THAT THE CHURCH IS TO
DEFEND A LAW ENFORCEMENT IS
RIDICULOUS.
>> THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW.
A RESEARCH DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MR. HOWARD
SAYS THIS IS THE 40TH
PROSECUTION OF POLICE OFFICERS
FOR MISCONDUCT IN FULTON COUNTY.
THE NINTH TIME THEY PROSECUTED A
HOMICIDE CASE AGAINST AN
OFFICER.
SOSO FAR ZERO CONVICTIONS.
BUT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
SITUATION TONIGHT?
THE CHARGES AND ALL REPORTS A
NUMBER OF OFFICERS WHO THINK
THIS WAS UNJUST CAN DO THEIR
JOBS AND NOT SHOWING UP FOR WORK
TONIGHT.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE A VERY
DIFFERENT OPINION THAN MY TWO
COLLEAGUES ON THE PANEL AFTER
SEEING THE TAPE AND OF COURSE,
WE HAVE TO LET THE INVESTIGATION
PLAY OUT.
BUT SEEING AN INDIVIDUAL TAKE A
TASER, RUN, THAT IS ONE
SITUATION BUT YOU POINTED BACK
AT THE OFFICER AND POTENTIALLY
STRIKE THE OFFICER, I WOULD
BE IN THE MIND-SET THAT DEADLY
FORCE IN THAT CASE COULD BE
NECESSARY.
I DO THINK THOUGH THAT THE
OFFICERS COULD HAVE HANDLED IT A
WHOLE LOT DIFFERENTLY,
ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT OUR
COUNTRY IS AND AN ELECTRIFIED
POINT.
PEOPLE ARE TENSE.
AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY ON EDGE.
I KNOW THAT EXIST FOR CITIZENS
AND OFFICERS AS WELL.
BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS IS
NO GEORGE FLOYD.
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE I
DON’T THINK THE CHARGES SHOULD
HAVE BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED?
ABSOLUTELY.
BUT SHOULD HE BE FACING
POTENTIALLY THE DEATH PENALTY?
I DON’T THINK SO.
>> LOOK, SHANNON, THE ISSUE
IS --
>> Shannon: QUICKLY.
>> THERE IS PICTURES PRESENTED
OF THE OFFICER KICKING THE DEAD
BODY OF RAYSHARD BROOKS.
NO ONE CAN SAY THIS IS SOMEHOW
LAW ENFORCEMENT WHERE YOU ARE
KICKING A DEAD BODY AFTER YOU
SHOOT HIM.
THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THESE
CHARGES.
>> Shannon: OKAY.
WE HAVE TO LEAVE LEAVE IT THERE.
>> SHANNON.
>> Shannon: QUICKLY.
>> REAL, REAL QUICK.
FIRST OF ALL MY TASER IS A
DEADLY WEAPON.
OVER 1,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED
AFTER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A
TASER SINCE 2004.
THAT IS A STUDY BY ROUTERS.
AND SUDDENLY THEY OFFICERS
SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THIS
DIFFERENTLY, I BELIEVE THAT BUT
WHETHER THIS RISES TO THE LEVEL
OF A PROSECUTION FOR MURDER,
THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE FILED
CHARGES, THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN
THE OFFICER DUE PROCESS, BUT
THIS DOES SEEM TO BE A RUSH TO
JUDGMENT.
AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT CHARGE IS
RIDICULOUS.
>> Shannon: WE HAVE TO LEAVE
IT THERE.
THE GEORGIA BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION DURING ITS OWN
INVESTIGATION.
THEY HAVE NO WORDS THE CHARGES
WOULD COME DOWN FINISHING THEIR
PART OF THE INVESTIGATION SO WE
WILL SEE.
I THINK EVERYBODY WHO HAS
WATCHED THE TAPE AGREES IT IS
HEARTBREAKING AND DIFFICULT TO
WATCH AS SO MANY THINGS ARE