AND THAT'S THE MEMO.
>>> THE CONSTITUTION ENSHRINES
OUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY BUT THE
WORLD IS A TAD DIFFERENT THAN
IT WAS IN THE 18th CENTURY.
HOW DO WE ENSURE OUR PRIVACY IN
THIS BRAVE NEW WORLD?
JOINING ME FORMER UTAH
CONGRESSMAN AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR JASON CHAFFETZ IS
BACK.
WELCOME BACK, SIR?
>> THANKS, KENNEDY.
GLAD TO BE WITH YOU.
KENNEDY: LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT
TIM COOK WAS SAYING.
I AGREE WITH HIM THAT PRIVACY
IS CERTAINLY A RIGHT, AND YOU
KNOW, YOU CAN BE BACKED UP BY
READING AND INTERPRETING THE
CONSTITUTION, BUT DO WE REALLY
NEED NEW LAWS?
>> WELL, WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY
DILIGENT ABOUT WHAT OUR
GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
I THINK TIM COOK IS RIGHT, WHAT
I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS I THINK
MOST AMERICANS HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT THE TECH COMPANIES ARE
DOING.
DIVING INTO OUR PERSONAL LIVES
AND DOING THINGS IN CAHOOTS
WITH OUR GOVERNMENT.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT
MORE THAN ONE OUT OF EVERY TWO
PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES IS
IN THE FBI DATABASE.
THEY MAY BE SUSPICIONLESS
AMERICANS BUT FACIAL
RECOGNITION IS IN USE BY THE
GOVERNMENT AND GETTING THAT
WHEN YOU GO GET DRIVER'S
LICENSE PHOTOS.
KENNEDY: ALSO CLEAR AT THE
AIRPORT.
I SIGNED UP FOR IT WHICH GOES
TO SHOW YOU THAT YOU THINK
THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
IGNORANCE.
I THINK IT'S RATIONAL IGNORANCE
AND I THINK IT'S GENERATIONAL.
I THINK OUR ENTIRE GENERATION
OF YOUNGER AMERICANS,
PARTICULARLY THOSE RAISED ON
TECHNOLOGY AND HAVE KNOWN ONLY
THAT WHO JUST ASSUME THERE IS
NO SUCH THING AS PRIVACY.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ASSUME
POWER?
>> WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I
WORRY ABOUT.
THE LAWS CHANGED A COUPLE
DECADES AGO SO A 13-YEAR-OLD
CAN ENTER INTO A USER
AGREEMENT.
YOU ARE TRADING PERSONAL
INFORMATION, EVERYTHING YOU
LOOK AND SEE ONLINE, THEN
BECOME THE DATA AND PROPERTY OF
THESE COMPANIES WHO GO AND SELL
IT FOR A PROFIT.
BUT WHAT I THINK IS -- YOU GIVE
THAT CONSIDERATION AND YOU GET
VALUE OUT OF THAT, BUT YOU
CAN'T EVER GET OUT OF THAT
CONTRACT.
>> I KNOW, BUT THE THING -- I
UNDERSTAND THAT BUT TWO THING
HERE THEY THINK ARE RIGHT.
ONE TIM COOK BRINGING UP THE
IMPLICIT RIGHT TO PRIVACY IN
THIS COUNTRY, AND THAT BEING A
NATURAL RIGHT, AND NUMBER TWO,
THE FREE MARKET DOING THE JOB
IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO WITHOUT
GOVERNMENT FORCE WHICH IS
SOMEONE SAYING TO HIS
COMPETITORS, YOU ARE STEALING
INFORMATION.
WE ARE GOOD AT PROTECTING THAT
INFORMATION, THEREFORE PEOPLE
SHOULD BUY OUR PRODUCTS AND
THAT'S WHY APPLE HAS A LOT OF
DEVOTED ADHERENCE, BUT THE
OTHER THING THEY BRING UP IN MY
MONOLOGUE IS THERE IS SO MUCH
MONEY IN SILICON VALLEY BETWEEN
FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE ALONE, YOU
DON'T HAVE TO NAME OTHER SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES OR TECH
COMPANIES, AND THEY'RE MORE
THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND HELP
CRAFT THESE LAWS, TO THEIR
BENEFIT.
THAT'S HOW CRONYISM WORKS.
LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE
HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY.
I BROUGHT UP UNIONS AS AN
EXAMPLE, BUT LOOK AT TEACHERS'
UNIONS AND THERE ARE SO MANY
EXAMPLES OF THIS, WHERE BIG
MONEY SITS DOWN WITH BIG
GOVERNMENT AND CRAFTS THINGS IN
THEIR FAVOR.
>> WELL, WE HAVE ABOUT 250,000
EMPLOYEES THAT WORK ON I.T.,
AND THEY MAKE HANDSOME SALARY.
WE SPEND ABOUT 90+ BILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR, BILLION, MORE
THAN THE TECH COMPANIES SPEND.
FEDERAL COMPANY SPENDS AND IT
DOESN'T WORK.
THEY STILL RELY ON THE TECH
COMPANIES.
VERY HARD TO ATTRACT THE
TALENT.
BUT I WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE
DOING WITH THE DATA.
THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T SECURE
THIS INFORMATION.
THEY DEMONSTRATED IT THROUGH
THE OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL
MANAGEMENT.
OPM, BUT NOW THEY'RE OUT
COLLECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, YOU'RE SUSPICIONLESS.
WHY AM I IN AN FBI DATABASE AND
SEARCHED THROUGH PUBLIC CAMERAS
WHEN YOU'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG.
THAT IS WRONG.
WE DON'T COLLECT DNA OR
FINGERPRINTS WHEN YOU'RE BORN
BUT WE ARE COLLECTING YOUR
FACE.
THAT SCARES ME.
KENNEDY: BIOMETRICS, THAT'S THE
THING, TECH WILL ALWAYS BE
AHEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT.
IF THEY PASS SOME LAWS NOW,
THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO GO
AROUND IT.
THAT'S FINE AS LONG AS THEY'RE
USING TECHNOLOGY TO BENEFIT