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(upbeat music)
- As a special treat, this episode has a special guest.
Welcome to the show, John Blakesley.
- Hi, Allison.
(all laughing)
- Our wedding is quickly approaching.
We're under two months
and I thought it'd be really smart for us
to get marriage advice from Gabe.
(Allison and John laughing)
I only laugh just because you've never been married.
- I've never been married.
I was engaged.
We broke up and then also my mom is a divorce attorney
and she's pretty intense.
- Right, she seems to hate marriage
despite having been married for decades.
- All right, Gabe, well tell us how do we do it
'cause honestly, we're clueless.
- We're at a loss.
- Sure.
I think one, you should get a prenup.
Are you guys doing a prenup?
- No and I'll tell you why.
- Oh my God.
- We each spoke with lawyers
and basically California law is so good
that all the things we were worried about
are actually already protected under California law.
They're so expensive to get.
- It would've cost us so much money.
- It would've cost us so much money
that we currently do not have.
So we decided that we will hopefully hold off
on getting one until unless we decide to move out of state
and then we would get one.
- So we're not listening to your first piece of advice.
Move on your second.
- But wait, we're going to,
I had big intentions to,
we each had an hour long talk with a lawyer.
But California's unlike most states
and the things you were worried about,
like if one of us took a break from working,
would that person be protected?
All of that, California does really well.
- If Sugar and I ran away together.
- Sure, of course.
- You know, is that okay?
- I don't know.
I just talked to my mom about another friend of mine
who's getting married and my mom was like,
"It's a lot of money upfront to save a lot of money later."
So that's what she said and she practices law in Florida
where, as far as I'm concerned, there are no laws.
- Right, I think it's probably very different
to be married in Florida.
- I just learned that a lot of people
are not legally married.
They just get married,
but they're not actually legally married.
- Yeah, some people it's like that.
It's a spiritual union.
- So are you guys doing that or no?
- Is that a piece of your advice or...
(all laughing)
Alison, I guess Gabe thinks
we should just be a spiritual union.
So this thing that you've wanted your entire life
let's just, okay.
- What's interesting is,
so the flow is that we have the marriage ceremony,
but then we're not legally wed
until we sign the marriage license.
- I know so when are you doing that?
- During the reception.
- Oh, so there's gonna be like an hour and a half
where Allison's freaking out.
- Wow.
- 'Cause we're not really married.
- She's gonna feel like an imposter.
People are gonna be like,
"John and Allison for the first time as married couple."
And then she's gonna be like an imposter.
- But our sisters are probably gonna be the witnesses on it.
- That's cute.
- So that'll be nice.
- I did it for my sisters
and I started to write down the wrong address.
- Allison.
- I know.
- So now your sister's not married.
- My second piece of advice is always assume
the other person has good intentions.
- Yeah, we're not doing that part.
(Allison laughing)
- You have to!
You have to!
- Allison sometimes is mischievous
and she actually has bad intentions.
She has intentions that are strictly just for her benefit
and no one else's benefit.
- As a goof.
And also-
- Gabe - What?
- After 8:00 PM at night here,
Allison turns into a different person.
She trans figures into a evil warlock.
- Oh, I've seen it.
- Who will not do anything for herself.
- I've seen it.
- Who starts making outrageous demands.
I can assume good intentions-
- Before 8:00 PM. - Before 8:00 PM.
- After 8:00 PM, I'm assuming she's a devil woman.
- So it's not like that she has good intentions,
but her intention is not to hurt you.
Her intention is to give herself
the best possible outcome for the evening.
- Right.
- I don't make wild demand demands.
I just don't wanna do anything.
- The other night she just yelled
that she needed a supervisor.
- To do what?
- To do all of her stuff.
- To supervise me.
- To supervise your work.
- No, what happened was you had gone out of town
and so I had had to like keep the house going
and you said, "Oh, aren't you an adult?"
Well all the time you go, "Don't you wanna be independent?"
And I say, "No, thank you."
- Yeah, yeah, sure. (John laughing)
Okay, so I can see where my advice
is not sort of applicable.
- Right.
- That's the benefit of partnership, baby.
- Allison turns into a baby dictator.
- Yes, I do know that.
- Starts making demands, starts shouting things.
but it's all in the service of her being like a little baby.
- There was a TikTok I sent her that was like this girl
saying she's a strong independent baby.
- Yeah, that's me. (John laughing)
- Okay, so we're not listening
to your first piece of advice.
I'm listening to your second piece of advice-
- Before 8:00 PM.
- So that's most of the day.
- Okay, sure.
- Yeah, gotta go to bed around 9:00.
- Also every night she goes,
"Wow, it must be 10:30, 11 o'clock."
It's seven o'clock.
(Gabe laughing)
- She's trying to trick me to thinking it's a later time
as if I don't have clocks.
- But, so, are you also going to bed early?
- Well, yeah, because of Allison.
- But don't you wanna stay up and do your own stuff?
- Sometimes I do.
- Yeah. - Sometimes I do.
But actually most of the time now I have been indoctrinated
into the world of reading time.
- Reading time.
- And you just said the other day
that that's really enhanced your life.
Share that publicly.
- What's your third piece of advice?
(all laughing)
- Okay, my third one is do some hobbies together.
- We played pickleball this weekend.
- We did.
- I think just having something that you share
that's an extracurricular activity.
I don't know why I feel like that's,
'cause you don't wanna get codependent.
You don't wanna have all the same hobbies.
- Right.
So let me run an idea by you.
- Go on. - Oh, no.
- It is my dream for like at least a month or two or six.
- No, I'm not going on a boat.
- To live.
- We're not living on a boat!
- At sea. (Gabe gasping)
- To live at sea. - Oh my God.
Okay, I wanna do that.
- Right? - Yes.
- So the two of you go do that.
- And I think it would be really cool if,
as a family, with me as the captain,
Sugar is first mate and they're there,
we go and we live at sea for like a month.
That would be like a great family hobby.
Don't you agree?
- Okay, I tried to get my sister to stay in an Airbnb
that was a boat in Florida one time
and she nixed it real fast and two,
okay, when I was a kid, my dad did,
when he was still drinking, he did take us out on a boat
and get us very lost in a storm
and that is a harrowing, traumatizing experience
that I have from my childhood.
But you're not an alcoholic who thinks he can drive a boat
so I feel like that's a much better experience.
- Right, I'm just an egotist
who thinks he can drive a boat.
- Who thinks he can drive a boat.
Well, you have to get a boating license.
- We're not doing this!
- No, no, honey, honey, honey.
It's gonna be great.
- Would do you do a tiny home?
- No. - At at sea?
- No, not at sea, on the ground, John.
- No, no, no, no.
If I'm gonna live in a tiny home,
it's only because we're training to live on a tiny boat.
- At sea, I understand.
Sure. - Yeah.
- Would you stop off at different ports and like see stuff?
- Absolutely, yeah, totally.
- Oh, that's fun.
- Right?
And then we would disembark and-
- Sure, sure.
- We would see the-
- The Caribbean.
- Yeah, exactly, we would talk to people or the other boat-
- Sure, the other boat.
- The other seafaring people.
And we would just live this swashbuckling, seafaring-
- John, you should have gotten your swashbuckling out
before you met Allison.
- Thank you.
- I'm not a swashbuckling kind of girl.
- No, she's not.
- Yeah, she's not.
But I just feel like, honey,
you're not taking Gabe's third piece of advice seriously.
- Final piece of advice.
You're not always gonna agree, but that's okay
and you just have to love each other.
- Yeah, we don't agree about going on the boat.
I'll go on a boat for a day.
- But, what if it's like many days in a row.
Allison, very frequently at night with no prompting,
just starts singing the theme song to "Gilligan's Island."
- Well, there you go.
(Allison laughing)
- So I feel like maybe part of her deep down
wants to be at sea or stranded on an island.
- They weren't at sea during that show,
they were stuck on an island.
- Well, how do you get stuck on an island?
- Well, a three hour tour.
- Yeah, exactly.
♪ A three hour tour ♪
- Final question.
Do you guys feel like you're prepared for marriage?
- I feel prepared for marriage.
I do not feel prepared for potential parenthood.
- Ooo!
Well, that's for part two.
- I would say I feel prepared for marriage.
But I've only designed the boat.
I haven't actively searched for the hull
or the fiberglass or these sort of interior stuff
and so that's just kinda a work in progress.
- Yeah.
- We should revisit the prenup.
(John laughing)
(upbeat music)
- I do like the idea of living at sea.
It is hard. - You can come with us.
- Can you imagine, she would kill herself.
(all laughing)