THANKS FOR BEING WITH US. "ALL IN" WITH CHRIS HAYES STARTS
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. >> TONIGHT ON "ALL IN."
A STANDING OVATION FOR THE
SERGEANT AT ARMS WHO STOPPED A
GUNMAN INSIDE CANADA'S
PARLIAMENT AS POLICE RELEASE NEW
DETAILS AND FOOTAGE.
>> AS THE SUSPECT WAVING THE
FIREARM AT PEOPLE.
>> YESTERDAY, WE LOST OUR
INNOCENCE.
INNOCENCE. >> AS POLICE TRIED TO CALM
FEARS.
FEARS. >> THOUGH WE ARE CALLING ON
EVERYONE TO BE VIGILANT, I WANT
TO STRESS THAT YOU ARE SAFE.
YOUR FAMILIES ARE SAFE.
>> THEN, A POTENTIAL CASE OF
EBOLA IN NEW YORK CITY.
ALASKA'S ONLY CONGRESSMAN
DOUBLES DOWN ON COMMENTS HE MADE
ABOUT SUICIDE AT A HIGH SCHOOL
WHERE A STUDENT HAD COMMITTED
SUICIDE.
SUICIDE. >>> AND A BACKLASH TO THE
BACKLASH.
BACKLASH. RENEE ZELLWIGGER AND HOLLYWOOD
HI POCK RA SILL.
"ALL IN" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
>> GOOD EVENING FROM NEW YORK.
I'M CHRIS HAZE.
TONIGHT, WE HAVE STRIKING NEW
VIDEO OF THE GUNMAN FROM OTTAWA
AND A WHOLE LOT OF CLARIFICATION
ON JUST WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
HORRIBLE ATTACK YESTERDAY.
MORE ON THAT VIDEO YOU'RE SEEING
IN A MOMENT.
THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT WAS BACK
IN PAR LIMIT, BACK ON THAT SAME
MORNING IN THE BUILDING THAT
CELEBRATED THE BRAVERY THAT
MANAGED TO BRING THEM DOWN.
HERE, IN THIS VIDEO, JUST
MOMENTS AFTER HE SHOT AND KILLED
THE ASSAY LANT WITH THE GUN
STILL IN HIS HAND.
VICKERS, WHO HOLDS A CEREMONIAL
POSITION, FOUGHT BACK TEARS
TODAY AS HE WAS CELEBRATED BY
MEMBERS OF PAR LIMIT AS ENTERED
THE CHAMBER.
THE CHAMBER. [ APPLAUSE ]
>> THE CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER
ADDRESSED THE BODY SAYING CANADA
WOULD NOT BE SBIM DATED AND
URGING LAWMAKERS TO INCREASE THE
SCOPE AND POWER OF TERRORISM AND
SURVEILLANCE LA E LOSS.
>> IN RECENT WEEKS, I HAVE BEEN
SAYING THAT OUR LAWS AND POLICE
POWERS NEED TO BE STRENGTHENED
IN THE AREA OF SURVEILLANCE,
DETENTION AND ARRESTS.
THEY NEED TO BE MUCH
STRENGTHENED.
STRENGTHENED. AND I ASSURE YOU, MR. SPEAKER,
THAT WORK, WHICH IS ALREADY
UNDERWAY, WILL BE EXPEDITED.
>> ACROSS THE CHAMBER AND IN A
RARE MOMENT FOR THIS VERY, VERY
PARTISAN LEADER, SHOOK HANDS AND
HUGGED THE LEADERS OF OTHER
PARTIES.
PARTIES. THE OPPOSITION LEADER THEN TOOK
TO THE PODIUM.
>> LET US NOT BECOME MORE
SUSPICIOUS E PISHS OF OUR
NEIGHBORS.
NEIGHBORS. LET'S NOT BE DRIVEN BY FEAR.
IN CANADA, LOVE ALWAYS TRIUMPHS
OVER HATE.
OVER HATE. >> BUT EVEN AS CANADIAN LEADERS
CAME TOGETHER IN PAR LIMIT, THE
CAPITAL REMAINED TENSE.
EARLIER, IN HONOR OF THE SOLDIER
KILLED YESTERDAY, FLOWERS WERE
LAID.
LAID. AN ARREST WAS MADE JUST A FEW
FEET FROM THE PRIME MINISTRY.
FOLLOWING THE EMOTIONAL
MOURNING, THE PARENTS RELEASED
THIS HEART BREAKING STATEMENT.
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AFTERNOON, CANADIAN OFFICIALS
GAVE A TIME LINE AND LAID OUT
EVERYTHING THEY KNEW.
SAY WITNESSES REPORTED SEEING THE SHOOTER AT ABOUT 9:50 A.M.
COMING FROM BEHIND THE WAR
MEMORIAL WHERE HE FIRED TWO
SHOTS.
SHOTS. AND THE FIRST CALLS TO 9/11 CAME
IN JUST TWO MINUTES LATER.
THIS FOOTAGE, HERE, SHOWS THE
GUNMAN RUNNING INTO AND GETTING
INTO THE CAR BY THE NATIONAL WAR
MEMORIAL MOMENTS AFTER THAT
SHOOTING.
SHOOTING. FROM THERE, OFFICIALS SAY HE
DROVE OFF AND PARKED HIS VEHICLE
AT THE SIDE ENTRANCE TO
PARLIAMENT WHERE SECURITY
CAMERAS CAPTURED HIS MOVEMENTS.
THE ROYAL MOUNTED POLICE
DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.
>> THE VIDEO THAT YOU'LL SEE IS
THE SCENE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE
PARLIAMENTARY PRECINCT.
PARLIAMENTARY PRECINCT. YOU'LL SEE INDIVIDUALS WHO SEEM
TO BE RECOILING WESTWARD DOWN
THE STREET FROM THE INCIDENTS AT
MEMORIAL.
MEMORIAL. YOU'LL SEE, SHORTLY, A VEHICLE
PULL UP.
PULL UP. THE CIRCLE IND KATES THE CAR AS
IT APPROACHES.
IT APPROACHES. ONE OF THE PEDESTRIANS EVEN
APPROACHES THE CAR.
AS THE SUSPECTS EXITS BEARING
THE FIREARM, PEOPLE RUN AWAY.
THIS THE THE SUSPECT RUNNING
THROUGH AND UP TOWARDS THIS
BLOCK.
BLOCK. HE RUNS TOWARDS THOSE VEHICLES
THAT ARE PARKED THERE.
THE LEAD VEHICLE IS OCCUPIED BY
THE DRIVER.
THE DRIVER. THE SUSPECT GOES AROUND IN FRONT
OF THE CAR.
THERE'S SOME EXCHAING WITH THE
DRIVER.
DRIVER. THE VEHICLE BACKS UP SLIEGTLY.
THE DRIVER EXITS THE VEHICLE AND
RUNS AWAY.
RUNS AWAY. THE SUSPECT THEN DRIVES AWAY.
IT IS AT THIS POINT THAT THOSE
ACTIONS WERE NOTICED BY OUR CMP
OFFICERS.
OFFICERS. OUR OFFICERS ARE IN PURSUIT AND
AS HE GETS TO THE DOOR OF THE
CINDER BLOCK, THERE'S AN
EXCHANGE OF FIRE WITH THE HOUSE
OF COMMONS SECURITY OFFICERS.
OUR OFFICERS BACK UP SLIGHTLY
AND THEN PURSUE HIM INSIDE.
>> OFFICIALS GAVE US A LOT OF
OTHER NEW NFGSZ, FIRST,
CONFIRMING THERE WAS
DEFINITIVELY JUST ONE SHOOTER,
AS FAR AS AUTHORITIES KNOW.
AND, ALSO, THAT YESTERDAY'S
EVENTS HAVE NO KNOWN CONNECTION
TO MONDAY'S INCIDENT IN WHICH A
MAN APARENTALLY RELATED TO
JIHAHD CRASHED HIS CAR INTO TWO
CANADIAN TROOPS AND DROVE OFF,
KILLING ONE.
KILLING ONE. HE IS A CANADIAN CITIZEN AND MAY
HAVE LIBYAN CITIZENSHIP, AS
WELL.
WELL. HE WAS THE SON OF A QUEBEC
BUSINESSMAN WHO APPEARS TO HAVE
FOUGHT IN 2011 IN LIBYA AND
SUSAN DEBEAUX, THE DIVISION OF
CAN THAT'S IMMIGRATION AND
REFUGEE BOARD.
REFUGEE BOARD. HE HAD BEEN IN OTTAWA SINCE
OCTOBER 2nd, STAYING IN A
HOMELESS SHELTER DOWNTOWN AND
CONTRARY TO EARLIER REPORTS, HE
WAS NOT ON THE LIST OF 90 PEOPLE
BEING MONITORED BY AUTHORITIES.
HE WAS IN OTTAWA APPLYING FOR A
PASSPORT AND SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN
FLAG.
FLAG. >> TOM, A LOT MORE INFORMATION
TODAY ABOUT WHO THIS WAS.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. AND THESE QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE FOR SOME TIME, CHRIS.
WHAT WE KNOW, THOUGH, IS HE WAS
LIVING MORE ON THE MARGINS OF
SOCIETY THAN WE KNEW.
THIS GUY WAS A DRIFTER.
AS WE WERE SAYING LAST NIGHT, HE
WAS KNOWN TO POLICE, POSSESSION
OF DRUGS.
OF DRUGS. AT THE HOMELESS SHELTER TODAY,
WE WERE TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE
AND OTHER PEOPLE AT THE SHELTER
WERE SAYING THAT HE WAS ALSO AN
ADD IKT.
ADD IKT. HERE'S A GUY WHO LIVED ON THE
MARGINS OF SOCIETY.
BECAME RADICALIZED IN THE
PROCESS.
PROCESS. BUT WHAT WERE HIS CONNECTIONS
BEYOND THAT?
BEYOND THAT? WAS HE CONNECTED TO SOME SORT OF
KBRUP?
KBRUP? WAS HE ONLINE WITH OTHER SORT OF
LONE WOLF JIHADISTS?
AND THAT WE DON'T KNOW.
IT CERTAINLY CHANGES THE
COMPLEXION OF THE RESPONSE,
DENDING ON WHAT WE KNOW.
>> YES, THAT SEEMS A KEY POINT
HERE.
HERE. THERE WERE SOME REPORTS THAT IND
KATED THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME
COORDINATION ONLINE WITH
MONDAY'S ATTACK.
MONDAY'S ATTACK. THE POLICE SEEM FAIRLY
DEFINITIVE, AT LEAST AT THIS
MOMENT, THEY HAVE REASON TO
BELIEVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IS THE POLICY RESPONSE IN
TERMS OF THIS LIST THAT POLICE
ADDRESSED TODAY.
ADDRESSED TODAY. THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWING TO TRAVEL, WHOSE PASS
PORTS THEY'VE CON FILS KATED.
WHAT IS BEING DONE IN THAT AREA,
AS FAR AS WE KNOW?
>> THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT.
THE GOVERNMENT IS ADDRESSING IT.
THERE IS THAT CANUNDRUM.
WITH E IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY
WE'RE GOING TO SEIZE YOUR PASS
PORT, IT JUST LETS THEM
TERRORIZE HERE AT HOME.
AND IT'S AN ISSUE NOT ONLY FOR
CANADA, BUT AN ISSUE FOR THE
UNITED STATES, AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE PREVENTED DETENTION,
AS THEY DO IN THE UNITED
KINGDOM, THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE
CANADA IS GOING TO START LOOKING
AT THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING.
RIGHT NOW, THE LAW DOESN'T LET
YOU DO.
YOU DO. IN FACT, ONE OF THE MOUPTIES
SUGGESTED THAT THEY PLACE
SOMEBODY UNDER KUSZ DAY AND THE
CROWN SAID THERE WASN'T ENOUGH
EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. SO THEY COULDN'T APPREHEND HIM.
THE LAW HAS TO BE CLARIFIED ON
THIS.
THIS. BUT IT'S A TRADITIONAL PUSH-PULL
BETWEEN RIGHTS AND FREEDOM,
SECURITY AND FREEDOM, THAT IS
GOING TO PLAY OUT HERE IN THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
>> YEAH, AND WE KNOW, OF SLE,
THE PRIME MINISTER STEVEN HARPER
HAD ALREADY PROPOSED A PACKAGE
OF WHAT HE WAS CALLING
AENT-TERRORISM LAWS BEFORE THIS
INCIDENT AND THERE WILL BE SOME
PRETTY SPIRTED KE BAIT DEBATE, I
WOULD IMAGINE, TO COME IN CANADA
ON PRECISELY THAT.
TOM CLARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YOU BET.
>> AS WE SAID, THE CANADIAN
GOVERNMENT WAS BACK AT WORK
TODAY JUST ONE DAY AFTER THE
ATTACK.
ATTACK. AND I DWOT A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO
PAUL DEX E DEWHAR.
I ASKED HIM WHAT THE MOOD WAS
LIKE THERE TODAY.
>> IT WAS A VERY SOLEMN DAY AND,
IN MANY WAYS, A VERY ANXIOUS
DAY.
DAY. AND, IN MANY WAYS, I'M THE LOCAL
MEMBER OF PAR LIMIT HERE IN
OTTAWA.
OTTAWA. AND MY RIDING, WHAT YOU WOULD
CALL YOUR DISTRICT IN THE
STATES, INCLUDES PAR LIMIT.
AND I WALKED -- I DECIDED TO
WALK TO WALK TODAY.
AND AS I WALKED TO WORK, I COULD
FEEL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, TURNING TO EACH OTHER
AND LOOKING AT EACH OTHER AND
GIVING EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, A
HUG AND A SMILE AND SAYING ARE
YOU OKAY.
YOU OKAY. BUT GOING INTO THAT PARLIAMENT
AFTER WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY,
CARRIED A LOT OF EMOTION,
FRANKLY.
FRANKLY. AND IT WAS A DID I HAVE CULL
DAY.
DAY. BUT AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR US TO
CONTINUE TO DO OUR WORK AND OUR
BUSINESS AND TO SHOW THE COUNTRY
AND OUR CITIZENS THAT WE WILL
CONTINUE ON AND WE WILL KEEP
GOING.
GOING. >> WHAT POLITICAL OR POLICY
CONCLUSIONS DO YOU THINK ARE
BEING DRAWN?
BEING DRAWN? WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES,
SOMETIMES THERE'S A MOVE TOWARDS
STRICTER MEASURES, CHANGES TO
THE LAW, CHANGES TO ENFORCEMENT
POSTURE AND THEN, SOMETIMES,
YEARS LATER, THOSE CHANGES WERE
REGRETTED OR WEREN'T ENTIRELY
THOUGHT THROUGH.
THOUGHT THROUGH. WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT KRVEGS IN
A POLICY LEVEL RIGHT NOW IN
CANADA?
CANADA? >> REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT
QUESTION.
QUESTION. I'M WITH THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION
OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT HAS
BROUGHT IN MEASURES, WE THINK,
GO A LITTLE TOO FAR WHEN IT
COMES TO PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS
AND, AS YOU CAN APPRECIATE, WE'D
HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE.
SO WE WERE HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION, SWRES
CONVERSATION, SWRES CONVERSATION, INTERESTINGLY MUFF
ENOUGH BEFORE THAT HAPPENED. WE DO TAKE TIME TO REFLECT ON
WHAT HAPPENED AND BE SOBER ABOUT
HOW WE RESPOND.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE CONVERSATION
IS AROUND DO WE GIVE THE STATE
MORE POWERS TO -- OH, WE ALREADY
HAVE POWERS, ACTUALLY, TO
PREARREST PEOPLE THAT WE THINK
MIGHT BE INVOLVES IN TERRORISM.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN PASS
PO
PO PASSPORTS AWAY.
PASSPORTS AWAY. IN THIS CASE, THE INDIVIDUAL
WURNT ABLE TO GET A PASS PORT.
HE WAS TURNED DOWN.
THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS THAT DO WE
GIVE ANALOGOUS TO YOUR C.I.A.,
THE POWER TO LISTEN ON PEOPLE'S
CONVERSATION AND GATHER DATA.
YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONCERNED
THAT, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN A
CHARGED AT MOS FEAR AND REALLY
WANT TO TAKE TIME TO, AS I SAID,
BE SOBER ABOUT THIS.
I MEAN, LOOK, THE CITY I LIVE
IN, WHERE I GREW UP, I'M A
HOMETOWN OTTAWA BOY, HAD NINE
HOMICIDES LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU
KNOW, WHERE WE SEE SAFETY
PREVILE E VAILS.
WE TAKE PRIDE IN THAT HERE IN
OUR COUNTRY.
OUR COUNTRY. WHEN WE SEE THINGS LIKE
YESTERDAY HAPPEN, WE SAY, OKAY,
WELL, WHAT'S A SMART THING TO
DO?
DO? WHAT WAS IT WE WERE DEALING WITH
AND NOT JUST REACT.
SO THIS CONVERSATION WAS
HAPPENING BEFORE THE EVENTS OF
YESTERDAY, WILL CONTINUE AND THE
POLICY OPTIONS ARE, FRANKLY, DO
WE GIVE MORE POWER TO THE SPY
AGENCY AND TO THE POLICE.
AND IF SO, WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE
THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
ISN'T ABUSED, FRANKLY.
AND THAT'S THE DEBATE THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE HAVING IN THE NEXT
COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>> THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
>>> WE LEARNED THIS AFTERNOON
THAT NEW YORK CITY MIGHT BE