They did find blood in the van.
How do you explain that?
Timothy had severe bloody noses
and one day he had a bloody nose
and all over his clothes, filled up two rags
and went down the seats.
They could not the age of the blood.
They just found that it was blood in the car.
Yeah.
And then they tested some blood
and they found it was hers on the knife.
On the knife, yes yes.
So there's no, none of his blood was on the knife at all
so there's no evidence that she's harmed him.
Yeah, there's none at all.
One of the things we often look at
to determine whether someone's gonna kill themselves or not
is if there is any forward thinking or action at all
and she bought him clothes, toys, backpack,
toiletries that you're going to need
if you're going to be here for a while
if you're going to be with someone
and motherly instinct is that you would not want
to drop off a child with nothing that he calls his own
and that to me is a very strong sign
and as morbid as this sounds,
the mother was going to kill herself and her child.
They would do it together. She would have killed him
first and then yes.
But to do that with him somewhere
and then leave him, abandon him somewhere
and go off on her own is psychologically unsupportive.
That doesn't make sense.
She wrote a suicide note that was addressed to your mother.
Mom, I know you're hurt and frustrated
and I wish I had something better to say
then I love you but I don't.
I have never really felt like I belong here
but somehow I've always felt apart from everything.
Tim helped with that for a while
and maybe if Jim and I had been better
I would have been okay but everything just fell apart
and this time there were just too many pieces
for me to pick up again.
I can't take the chance of Jim hurting Tim
because of my choices so I've taken him
somewhere safe.
He will be well cared for and says that he loves you.
Please know that there is nothing you could have said
or done that would have changed my mind.
I'm sorry for the hurt and difficulties
I know you're going to face.
I just hope you'll be able to forgive me one day.
Which is time for me to say goodbye.
Amy had a pretty common coping method
and when she felt that things were too much for her
and she didn't wanna take responsibility for her life,
she had to compartmentalize that somewhere
so it's easy for her to say that
I don't want this because it wouldn't be safe
because I think that she wanted Jim to feel bad
and she wanted to hurt him.
I don't think she even thought it was true.
I think she just really wanted to have a penchant
for the dramatic.
I mean she killed herself on Friday the 13th
and it was right around midnight.
She says I can't take the chance
so I've taken him somewhere safe.
As irrational as it is, it sounds like a legitimate
thought process to me whereas
if she had taken his life
I would expect there to be finality in here.
There's not.
She's not talking about him in the past tense
which is very important to see.
She goes on to say there's nothing you could have done
to change my mind and I'm sorry for the hurt.
I hope you'll forgive me.
It doesn't read with that darkness to it
and I don't know if she actually expected to die
when she wrote this or expected to be found or what.
There are statistics that suggest
half of all suicidal deaths are accidental.
She took an overdose of antihistamines.
She laid in a warm tub and cut her wrists.
It wasn't happening fast enough
so she got up out of the bath
to get the knife again and cut her throat.
Well the story gets more and more bizarre
because after eight years of searching for little Timothy,
a boy shows up and tells police
that he's your missing son and when you saw
this photo did you think it looked like Timothy?