>> I’M AYMAN MOHYELDIN ALONG HALLIE JACKSON AND LOUIS
BURGDORF.
BURGDORF. "MORNING JOE" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
>>> THERE ANY SENATOR IN THE
CHAMBER WISHING TO VOTE OR
WISHING TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE?
IF NOT, THE YAYS ARE 98, THE
NAYS ARE 1, THE MOTION IS AGREED
TO.
TO. >> I WILL SOON SIGN INTO LAW,
THE LARGEST LEGISLATIVE EFFORT
IN HISTORY TO ADDRESS THE OPIOID
CRISIS.
CRISIS. ROB AND SO MANY OTHERS HELPED.
VERY LITTLE DEMOCRAT SUPPORT.
>> OKAY.
>> OKAY. EARLIER THIS MONTH THE SENATE
PASSED A SWEEPING BIPARTISAN
BILL TO FIGHT THE OPIOID
EPIDEMIC.
EPIDEMIC. IT WAS OPPOSED BY JUST ONE
MEMBER, A REPUBLICAN, YET
ACCORDING TO DONALD TRUMP THE
98-1 VOTE TRANSLATES TO, QUOTE,
VERY LITTLE DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT.
IT’S A VERY WE ASK AGAIN AND
AGAIN, WHY IS TRUMP INCAPABLE OF
TELLING OBVIOUS TRUTHS?
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO
"MORNING JOE," IT IS MONDAY,
OCTOBER 22nd.
OCTOBER 22nd. WITH US WE HAVE MSNBC
CONTRIBUTOR MIKE BARNICLE,
NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST FOR NBC
NEWS AND MSNBC AND COULD HOST
AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF "THE
CIRCUS" JOHN HEILEMANN.
KRISTEN ANDERSON, NATIONAL
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR NBC
NEWS AND MSNBC AND AUTHOR OF THE
BOOK "THE RED AND THE BLUE: THE
1990s AND THE BIRTH OF POLITICAL
TRIBALISM" STEVE KORNACKI AND
HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR OF THE SOUL
OF AMERICA, AND AN NBC NEWS AND
MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR JON MEACHUM.
>> JOE, WE START THIS MORNING,
AGAIN, FIGHTING FOR JUST THE
TRUTH, JUST THE FACTS, JUST
GETTING THE FACTS RIGHT.
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY
WHILE IT’S EASY TO ASK WHAT
EXACTLY IS WRONG WITH DONALD
TRUMP, JON MEACHUM, WHEN YOU
HAVE SOMETHING THAT PASSED 98-1,
PASSED 98-1 AND IT IS ABOUT AS
BIPARTISAN AS ANYTHING CAN EVER
BE, ONLY ONE REPUBLICAN VOTED
AGAINST IT.
AGAINST IT. JON, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE DONALD
TRUMP -- IS JON THERE?
DO WE HAVE JON THERE?
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHY DON’T WE GO TO JON
MEACHUM, HE IS THE SOUL OF
AMERICA, HE CAN SPEAK TO THIS
MUCH BETTER.
MUCH BETTER. THERE HE IS.
JON MEACHUM, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE
THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS A CHANCE
TO TALK ABOUT BRINGING
WASHINGTON TOGETHER, THE SORT OF
THING THAT PRESIDENTS IN THE
PAST WOULD LOVE TO DO.
HERE INSTEAD YOU HAVE A
PRESIDENT WHO ACTUALLY LIES
ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE HAD A
98-1 VOTE, WHICH I GUESS, YOU
TELL ME, WHAT DOES THAT DO?
DOES THAT SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT
HE’S JUST A LOT MORE INTERESTED
IN DIVIDING AMERICANS THAN
BRINGING THEM TOGETHER AND WHEN
HE HAS A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT
HOW AMERICA COMES TOGETHER, HE
STILL LIES AND SUGGESTS THAT
IT’S TORN APART.
>> HE’S FIGHTING FOR THE NEXT
FIVE MINUTES, NOT FOR -- NOT
EVEN THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS, MUCH
LESS THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR NEXT
FIVE DECADES.
FIVE DECADES. BASICALLY HE’S GOING TO KEEP
DOING THIS BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN
REWARDED FOR T HE’S THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
HE GETS THE FEEDBACK LOOP HE
WANTS FROM THOSE OF HIS
SUPPORTERS.
SUPPORTERS. I THINK HE THINKS OF US AS AN
AUDIENCE, NOT AS A COUNTRY, AND
IS HAPPY TO HAVE, IN THE
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING SENSE,
THE PEOPLE WHO BOO HIM HE THINKS
ARE BOOING HIM PARTLY BECAUSE
IT’S THEIR ROLE.
I DON’T THINK HE TAKES ON ANY
KIND OF CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.
SO I THINK WHERE WE ARE IS WE
HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO NOW OR HAS
FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, HE’S
INCAPABLE OF CHANGING BECAUSE
THE WAY HE’S ACTED HAS BEEN
REWARDED.
REWARDED. I THINK THAT THE ONLY THING
PEOPLE CAN DO AT THIS POINT, AND
IT’S NOT -- AND I DON’T MEAN TO
MINIMIZE IT BY SAYING ONLY, BUT
WE HAVE TWO WEEKS AND ONE DAY
BEFORE A SIGNIFICANT MESSAGE CAN
BE SENT THAT WE BELIEVE TRUTH
SHOULD HAVE A PLACE IN THE ARENA
ALONG WITH THIS KIND OF PASSION.
>> WHAT A WONDERFUL THING, MIKA,
TO ACTUALLY THING TRUTH INTO THE
ARENA.
ARENA. WE’VE BEEN FOCUSED SO MUCH ON
DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. I HAVE TO SAY I THINK IT’S TIME
TO START FOCUSING ON THE PEOPLE
BEHIND HIM WHO WERE APPLAUDING
AT LINES THAT THEY KNOW ARE LIES
BECAUSE YOU CAN ASK DONALD
TRUMP, WELL, IS HE JUST -- IS HE
INCOMPETENT?
INCOMPETENT? IS HE EVIL?
IS HE -- WE DON’T KNOW WHY HE
WOULD LIE ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT --
THAT -- >> BUT WE KNOW IT CONTINUES.
>> BUT IT CONTINUES, RIGHT.
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHEN DONALD
TRUMP STATES AN OBVIOUS LIE AND
PEOPLE CHEER AT IT LIKE IT’S A
PUNCH LINE OR LIKE IT’S A
TOUCHDOWN BEING SCORED WHEN HE’S
LYING, WHEN HE IS NOT TELLING
THE TRUTH AND THEY’RE LAUGHING
ABOUT IT AND CHEERING ABOUT IT,
OR LET’S SAY LAST WEEK WHEN
DONALD TRUMP PRAISED THE ASSAULT
OF A REPORTER WHO WAS BEATEN UP
AND THROWN TO THE GROUND FOR
SIMPLY ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT
HEALTHCARE REFORM, THE AUDIENCE
BEHIND DONALD TRUMP IS CHEERING
AND LAUGHING AND APPLAUDING.
I’M JUST WONDERING WHO RAISED
THEM, FIRST OF ALL, WHO RAISED
THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CHEERING
AND LAUGHING WHEN A PRESIDENT
APPLAUDS SOMEBODY BEING BEATEN
UP AND BATTERED, A REPORTER, FOR
ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT
HEALTHCARE?
HEALTHCARE? APPARENTLY, AGAIN, FORGETTING
WHAT HAPPENED TO KHASHOGGI IN
SAUDI ARABIA.
SAUDI ARABIA. WHO RAISED THEM?
WHAT CHURCH DID THEY GO TO
GROWING UP?
GROWING UP? DO THEY STILL GO TO CHURCH EVERY
WEEK?
WEEK? DO THEY GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS
AND THEN MONDAYS THEY APPLAUD
SOMEBODY BEATING UP THE PRESS
FOR ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT
HEALTHCARE REFORM?
HEALTHCARE REFORM? WHAT DO THEY TELL THEIR CHILDREN
AT NIGHT ABOUT THE TYPE OF
CHARACTER THEY WANT THEM TO
HAVE?
HAVE? YOU SEE, YOU CAN’T CHEER ABOUT
SOMEBODY COMMITTING ASSAULT AND
BATTERY AND BEATING UP SOMEBODY
AND THROWING THEM TO THE GROUND.
YOU CAN’T CHEER ON LIES THAT YOU
KNOW TO BE LIES AND THEN GO HOME
AND TRY TO TEACH YOUR CHILD
ANYTHING.
ANYTHING. YOU JUST CAN’T.
BECAUSE THEY WILL SEE THAT YOU
ARE THE HYPOCRITE STANDING
BEHIND THE PRESIDENT CHEERING
HIM ON AND LAUGHING AS HE
APPLAUDS ASSAULT AND BATTERY.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> AS HE LIES ABOUT THE MOST
BASIC FACTS, AS HE TEARS TO
SHREDS ONE CONSTITUTIONAL NORM
AFTER ANOTHER.
AFTER ANOTHER. THIS MAY SEEM LIKE THIS IS ALL
ABOVE YOUR CHILDREN.
IT’S NOT.
IT’S NOT. I HAVE FOUR.
THEY ARE A LOT SMARTER THAN YOU
THINK THEY ARE.
I’M JUST WONDERING WHAT DO YOU
DO WHEN YOU GO HOME FROM THAT
RALLY, APPLAUDING WHAT’S
GOING -- APPLAUDING THE LIES,
APPLAUDING THE ASSAULTS,
APPLAUDING THE ABUSES,
APPLAUDING THE VULGARITIES.
IT’S A VERY, MIKA, I THINK WE
NEED TO START ASKING A LOT MORE.
>> IT’S FAIR ENOUGH.
>> WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
CONTINUE TO APPLAUD THINGS THEY
KNOW TO BE LIES?
>> I JUST DON’T KNOW IF THEY SEE