for me I'm getting help with a therapist around it and understanding and reading
and listening and humility yeah and it's really really hard
but he was great to have you here I'm I was just looking on your Instagram on the way in uh to
work today I would say looking at what we get up to in terms of the promotion for this great
movie you enjoy what you do yeah you have a good time you feel blessed to do what you do it seems
like you have a guy some people seem like a bit of a chore but you seem to love it you mean the
promoting video promoting bit just anything that's involved in this line of work I love
it all right no not all but I I love the filming bit I love the preparation for it the rehearsal
and I love the promoting of it I love traveling I particularly love being here yeah and I one of the
reasons honestly why I did this movie Bush yes I'm not named after anyone in particular George
W bushing pushing was it Richie Banner no Bush and Bush and felt Bush and felt um honestly one
of the reasons I did it was because I I really felt these are conversations that are hard to
have that we need to have in homes in society in general so that I I'm thrilled that you have me
on here and I'm thrilled that we get a chance to talk about it because I know we're mainly here
to have a laugh and entertain people but there's there Comes A Time even with our best mates even
when you're at the pub having a good bit of a banter sometimes we need to really find Space
to talk about things that are really affecting us because men are quite bad aren't they we've seen
men are quite bad at talking about stuff like how they feel and I've learned so much about it
doing this film and uh and it's we are bad we we do lot of banter it's often goes as deep as hey
don't yeah no good good now you know it's got some struggles at work but I'm fine it's fine fine yeah
everything's fine everything good at home yeah no yeah it's okay no no we're fine it goes about
that by the way I've learned since learn the word fine is the biggest red flag you'll ever hear oh
it's just the one to watch out for yeah I didn't know that but now that I know it you watch How
often people will say fine and the advice I got when I was doing this movie was if anyone says
fine you just stop everything to say sit down what's going on and you'll always dig under
this hummingbad going on for them we say about how much you you enjoy what you do but we speak about
the film it's got so many different layers you've got the relationship between a father and a son
um divorce parenting mental health you enjoy what you do but surely this must have been one of the
most intense projects you must have worked on yeah it's intense every day was intense it's
dealing with a a 17 year old my son who's has acute depression you don't know why you never
really find out why because often there is no single why and it's really a film about how it
affects everyone around them and my character is constantly trying to fix things make it better I
can save my son I can get him out of this funk I can I'll be the one to do it yeah and as an
audience you watch The Water Rising around him even though so he's feeling in control and so
every day on set it was it was emotional it was intense and also there was this feeling I had to
have his character with no it's going to be okay it's going to be okay and as an actor kind of what
you want you I mean we could just I could act all day long just us having breakfast and having a bit
of a chit chat or doing whatever but yeah in the end I want to do things that move people make them
laugh make them yell or whatever or make them cry that's what we want to do and it's hard but I like
it there's an already in what you're saying about like you know wanting to fix things and all this
and you know the three of us all here as far as fathers like you've obviously been [ __ ] in in in
superhero movies but like we put this pressure on ourselves right as as as fathers to to to be the
ones like you know we can fix this all that and at times there isn't necessarily always the fix that
we can do is there no and and being vulnerable about that I've I've learned that I've changed
as a parent from doing this movie I have a 17 year old and a 22 year old so I think I was guilty of
being a bit of the mindset of don't burden your kids with your problems or you know they want to
see and feel strength that they want to feel safe like don't worry you're the captain of the ship
and I know where we're going that I find that if I say you know what guys even in an argument I'll
go I don't know I've never done this before I've never been a parent before I don't know what the
answer is it really disarms them and and it can start a real conversation where you're including
them so there must be a lot of parents who are going to watch this film there's a lot of parents
who'll be listening to this this interview and they'll be in the same kind of situation where
they don't they don't know what the right thing is to do and you get this battle between say and
this is what's borne out in the movie between medical professionals and and what your child
is telling you yes and that's a huge thing for parents isn't it like it says I'm fine I don't
need this treatment that the doctors are giving you different advice there's a real conflict with
that isn't there a huge conflict and and it's okay not to know yeah I think that's what the movie's
trying to say it's really trying to you can see both points of view like there's a psychiatric
scene where the the the boy's been admitted into a psychiatric hospital and the doctor's
saying keep the child here and the son is begging the father don't abandon me yeah I'm fine and I
know it was I take me out and you feel the pull and the push and what are the pair and stew do I
my son is begging me to take it I know you can help me and all the professional and you don't
know what to do and that's okay it's okay not to know that's I guess what I would say but it
is something I think parents will it's confronting but it's really something we have to confront but
there's no there's no like training for parents I remember at school being taught to make a pencil
case or make a PE bag for PE withdraw string with me initials on the front uh we don't get any kind
of like they don't give you the chat about down the line you might end up being a parent there's
no there's no manual for it I guess that's the kind of problem there's no manual and there's
a million books and I it's funny when you become a parent I I became very much like my father when
I became a parent and my wife used to call me Chris like you know I like Chris because he'd
love to recipe give me a recipe and I'll follow it right so I had I remember I had all these books by
my bed all the classic books a baby wanted to do raising them and and I'm reading them and I was
like no no dad it says here on page 34 women and I remember my mum pulling me aside and said I she
said she calls me huby she goes Hubie that's uh it's wonderful you're reading those books but I
she's had six kids and she said it's wonderful you're reading those books but I just want you
to know your kid hasn't read them that's all advice it's interesting the the film The play
that was from called the Sun and and you've got the relationship that you're character has with
your son but obviously your character has a father played by Anthony Hopkins and there's that element
as well like we we are shaped by by what's gone before all of us which is what we do you're spot
on it becomes about halfway through the movie you my character goes to see his father you're the son
and for the first half the movie It's centered around this boy so you just assumed the boy is
the title of the movie and then all of a sudden as you said you know we're all still children and
we whether we like it or not we carry internal voices from our parents we carry scars we carry
the wonderful things we all the good things we get but all of that is carried for our entire
life whether we have children or not and when you have children out they come they come out and you
can say to the cows come home I will not do this and before you know it in an argument uh words
will come out of your mouth that are exactly the words you heard and hated growing up you know it's
almost inevitable isn't it yeah and to be really serious because I think this is a serious topic
when somehow traumas are passed down from generation to generation and it's so hard
it's like a wildfire goes through it's really really hard no matter how much we consciously
try just put your hands up and it takes incredible courage to stand up to that wildfire and to say
it stops with me and it takes help um for me I'm getting help with a therapist around it
and understanding and reading and listening and humility yeah and it's really really hard