WHISTLEBLOWER REPORT. //
// //>>> WE GET RIGHT TO THE
BREAKING NEWS STUNNING
WASHINGTON.
WASHINGTON. >> TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME
EVER, THE CONGRESS AND AMERICA
HAS NOW PROCESSED AND HEARD WHAT
EXACTLY HAS JUST UPENDED
AMERICAN POLITICS IN GOVERNMENT
AS WE KNOW IT.
THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAIN ABOUT
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PLOT AND CALL
WITH THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE.
THIS IS DAMNING STUFF.
IT LAYS OUT IN DETAIL
ALLEGATIONS THAT THE PRESIDENT
ABUSED HIS POWER FOR HIS OWN
PERSONAL GAIN IN RE-ELECTION,
PRESSING A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT IN
UKRAINE TO GO AFTER HIS DOMESTIC
RIVALS.
RIVALS. JOAN AND HIS FAMILY.
I HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM
MULTIPLE U.S. GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS.
OFFICIALS. THE PRESIDENT IS USING HIS POWER
OF OFFICE TO SOLICIT
INTERFERENCE FROM A FOREIGN
COUNTRY IN THE 2020 U.S.
ELECTION.
ELECTION. WHAT YOU’RE SEEING HERE FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN PUBLIC IS THE
COMPLAINT THAT HAS UPENDED
EVERYTHING AND THE WHITE HOUSE.
AND THEN TRUMP’S OWN OFFICIALS
DEEMED CREDIBLE.
DEEMED CREDIBLE. THEN TO THE COVER-UP.
QUOTE I LEARNED FROM MULTIPLE
U.S. SENIOR WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS THAT INTERVENED TO
LOCK DOWN ALL RECORDS OF THE
PHONE CALL.
PHONE CALL. SPECIALLY OFFICIAL WORD FOR WORD
TRANS CRIP.
TRANS CRIP. ALL OF THIS COMING AS THE ACTING
DNI OFFICIAL TESTIFIED AND FACED
A WHOLE RANGE OF QUESTIONS
BEFORE THE HOUSE TODAY.
THE PRESIDENT ALSO ADDING TO THE
FIRE TONIGHT, MAKING CHILLING
COMMENTS.
COMMENTS. THIS WAS IN PRIVATE BUT NOW
OBTAINED BY THE "L.A. TIMES"
ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND THE
OFFICIALS WHO TALKED TO THE
WHISTLEBLOWER.
WHISTLEBLOWER. >> WHO IS THE PERSON WHO GAVE
WHISTLEBLOWER THE INFORMATION?
BECAUSE THAT’S CLOSE TO A SPY.
IN THE OLD DAYS.
SPIES.
SPIES. WE USED TO HANDLE IT A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO NOW.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF REPORTING
AND EXPERTS.
AND EXPERTS. WE’LL BE JOINED BY ONE OF THE
HIGHEST RANKING DEMOCRATS IN
CONGRESS.
CONGRESS. I BEGIN NOW WITH VINCE WARREN,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON THESE
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. CONSERVATIVE BILL KRISTOL WHO
DIRECTS GROUP AND THE FORMER
FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AND LEGAL
ANALYST.
ANALYST. VINCE, I BEGIN WITH YOU IS THIS
WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT DEEMED
CREDIBLE, THE TYPE THAT ADDS TO
THE CONSTITUTIONAL CASE FOR
IMPEACHMENT IN YOUR VIEW?
>> I THINK IT CERTAINLY DOES.
ALMOST ALL THE ELEMENTS THERE.
THE INITIAL CRIME.
THE MISCONDUCT OF HAVING THE
HENCHMAN.
HENCHMAN. CONNECTING THEM TO THE
INFORMATION WHERE THE MONEY IS
STOPPED.
STOPPED. THIS IS THE ASK AND THE DEMAND
THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. THAT WAS ALL LAID OUT.
AND I THINK WHAT IS ALSO VERY
IMPORTANT WAS THAT THIS
INFORMATION WAS PUT ON LOCKDOWN.
CLEARLY SOMEBODY KNEW WITHIN THE
WHITE HOUSE THAT THE INFORMATION
THERE WAS NOT JUST A LOVELY
PHONE CALL.
PHONE CALL. THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS THERE.
THAT LOCKDOWN I THINK WILL BE
REALLY KEY IN TERMS OF THE
UPCOMING INVESTIGATIONS.
UPCOMING INVESTIGATIONS. >> IT’S ALL VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD, BILL.
STRAIGHTFORWARD, BILL. AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE EXPLAINS
WHY THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASED
SUCH DAMNING EVIDENCE IN THE
UKRAINE NOTES.
UKRAINE NOTES. EVERYBODY SAW THAT AND THAT, WHY
WOULD YOU TELL ON YOURSELF LIKE
THAT?
THAT? PART OF THE ANSWER IS THE
CONSTITUTIONAL CONGRESSIONAL AND
LEGAL PRESSURE IS SO GREAT.
THIS IS EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT
AMERICA SAW LAST NIGHT.
YOUR VIEW?
YOUR VIEW? >> CONSIDERING IMPEACHMENT, IT
IS A VERY DISCREET SET OF EVENTS
THAT YOU CAN REALLY DISCOVER I
THINK A LOT OF THE FACTS ABOUT.
YOU CAN GET THE DOCUMENTS YOU
NEED TO GET.
YOU CAN GET THE WITNESSES YOU
NEED TO GET.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE POSITION IF
YOU’RE THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE THAT YOU WON’T LET
YOURSELF BE STONE WALLED.
IF THE WHITE HOUSE INSTRUCTS
WITNESSES NOT TO TESTIFY, THAT
ITSELF WOULD BE AN OBSTRUCTION.
I THINK IN A MONTH WE COULD KNOW
A TON ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPEN.
FOR ME THE TELL IS THE
REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL WHO HAVE
BEEN, TO ME, WE DISCUSSED THIS
BEFORE.
BEFORE. A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT AND NOT
EXACTLY PROFILES IN COURAGE.
I WOULD NOT SAY THEY’RE PROFILES
IN COURAGE TODAY.
THEY DID NOT SAY NOTHING TO IT.
RIDICULOUS.
RIDICULOUS. THEY’RE SAYING WE HAVEN’T HAD
TIME TO READ THE WHISTLEBLOWER
COMPLAIN YET.
COMPLAIN YET. WE CAN LAUGH A LITTLE AT THAT
BUT THAT IMPLIES IF YOU READ IT,
AND THERE IS STUFF IN IT, YOU
WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
CHAIRMAN BURR OF THE SENATE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE JUST SAID
APPARENTLY THAT HE HAD USEFUL
MEETINGS 28 THE DIRECTOR OF
NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND TIRKS
G.
G. THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
INSPECTOR GENERAL. HE PUT OUT A STATEMENT THAT
DOESN’T MAKE SENSE UNLESS YOU
THINK HE THINKS THERE’S
SOMETHING SERIOUS THERE.
>> NO ONE CAN SAY THIS IS JUST
NONSENSE.
NONSENSE. >> LET ME TO GO BILL ON THAT
BEFORE WE GO TO YOU ON THE LAW
AGAIN.
AGAIN. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT HOW
CONGRESS LOOKS AT ITS DUTIES.
AND WE HAVE GONE IN A SHIFT.
WHAT HAS REALLY CHANGED?
AS WE’VE BEEN REPORTING ON THE
FACTS, ONE THING THAT HAS
CHANGED IS 80 MORE PEOPLE IN THE
HOUSE BACK IMPEACHMENT.
WHICH CREATES A MAJORITY.
ANOTHER THING MONTHS IN THE
MAKING, THE PRESIDENT WENT FROM
NO COLLUSION TO IF THERE IS
COLLUSION IT’S NOT A CRIME, TO
NOW, PRO COLLUSION.
HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THINGS IN
WASHINGTON?
WASHINGTON? HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE SENATE
WANT TO CO-SIGN THAT?
>> AND THE SENATORS REALIZE NOW,
I JUST TALKED TO A COUPLE
REPUBLICAN SENATORS THIS
WEEKEND.
WEEKEND. THEY MAY HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
IT IS ONE IF I KNOW IF THERE ARE
CHARGES.
CHARGES. YOU’RE NOT A PROFILE IN COURAGE.
YOU DON’T STAND UP AND SAY HEY,
THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE.
HEY.
HEY. I WANT A HEARING ON THIS.
YOU JUST KEEP QUIET.
IF THE HOUSE VOTES ON ARTICLES
OF IMPEACHMENT, THE SENATORS
HAVE TO EITHER LET IT GO.
DECIDE THIS ACTION BY THE
PRESIDENT, THAT YOU’RE
DESCRIBING, IS LAWFUL.
NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
OR THEY HAVE TO VOTE YES.
I THINK THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS
HAVE SUDDENLY GOTTEN MUCH MORE
SERIOUS.
SERIOUS. THE HOUSE MEMBERS LESS SO
BECAUSE THEY CAN COMPLAIN AND
THE DEMOCRATS CAN REPORT OUT AN
PARTICLE.
PARTICLE. I WOULD SAY THE HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, IT’S
BEEN PARTISAN AT TIMES OVER THE
LAST COUPLE YEARS, ESPECIALLY
DEVIN NUNES.
DEVIN NUNES. IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE LIST OF
REPUBLICAN MEMBERS, I HAS FOUR
OR FIVE WHO ARE SERIOUS PEOPLE
AND WILL TRY TO DO THE RIGHT
THING AND I THINK THAT XHOE HAS
MORE OF A CHANCE OF AGREEING IN
SOME DEGREE IN A BIPARTISAN WAY.
WE CAN’T JUST DISMISS THIS.
LET’S LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS.
>> THE OTHER DIFFERENCE THAT
YOU’RE ALLUDING TO COME IN THE
NATURE OF THIS AS AMERICANS
REFRESH ON WHY WE HAVE
IMPEACHMENT WORK THE WAY WE DO.
WHETHER THEY GET THERE OR NOT.
HOUSE MEMBERS ARE UP EVERY TWO
YEARS.
YEARS. SENATORS ARE NOT.
AS YOU REFER TO IT, THESE ARE
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE UP IN
THIS CYCLE BUT UP FOUR YEARS
LATER.
LATER. THE FOUNDERS DIDN’T GET
EVERYTHING RIGHT BUT SHOUT OUT
TO SOME OF THE FOUNDERS.
A LONGER TERM PEND YENCY FOR
YOUR SENATE SEAT ALLOWS YOU TO
THINK FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AHEAD.
IF YOU DON’T THINK YOU LIKE
WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS GOING.
YOU THINK YOUR OWN SEAT MIGHT BE
LOOKING DIFFERENT IN FOUR YEARS.
>> LET ME COME BACK TO YOU.
I HAVE TO MODERATE.
YOU’RE HERE.
YOU’RE HERE. I’LL COME BACK TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT HE DOES.
YOU CAN TELL THAT -- YOU CAN
TELL WHAT HE IS AT HEART.
A POLITICAL PERSON.
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU BUT I
WANT TO BRING YOU IN ON THE LAW.
I’M GOING ON ROAD TO YOU ONE
PASSAGE ON THIS NEW COMPLAIN.
THE PRESIDENT PRESSED MR.
ZELENSKY TO INITIATE AN
INVESTIGATION INTO THE
ACTIVITIES OF BIDEN.
IF THE PRESIDENT ORDERS A
DOMESTIC ATTORNEY GENERAL
PROSECUTOR TO DO THAT, IS THAT
EVEN LEGAL?
EVEN LEGAL? >> NO.
>> NO. THERE’S A CLEAR DELINEATION OF
THE OFFICIAL CHANNELS.
THE U.S. GOES TO FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS FOR ASSISTANCE IN
OUR DOMESTIC INVESTIGATIONS OF
THERE ARE OFFICIAL CHANNELS TO
DO THAT.
DO THAT. THERE ARE TREATIES.
WAYS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED FOR
DOING THAT.
DOING THAT. THEY ARE NOT DONE WITH A WINK
AND A NOD OR A PHONE CALL LIKE
THIS.
THIS. IF THE PRESIDENT WAS TO CALL THE
U.S. ATTORNEY IN A GIVEN STATE
AND SAID, HEY, I HAVE THIS GUY.
HE HAPPENS TO BE RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AGAINST ME.
COULD YOU LOOK INTO HIM AND
BRING SOME CHARGES?
THAT WOULD BE EQUALLY AS
INAPPROPRIATE.
INAPPROPRIATE. >> THAT WAS WORTH GOING TO.
THAT WAS MUCH BETTER THAN
ANYTHING I WOULD HAVE SAID.
MY ONLY POINT IS THIS.
WHEN THERE WAS THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION, IT ALLOWED
MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE TO AVOID THAT.
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL LOOK
INTO IT.
INTO IT. LET’S HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
IN A FUNNY WAY, THE
DISAPPEARANCE OF THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION HAS FORCED THE
HOUSE TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
>> SO INTERESTING.
OUR VIEWERS HAVE HEARD ABOUT
THIS.
THIS. OUR VIEWERS KNOW AND WE’VE
FOLLOWED THIS CLOSELY FOR A LONG
TIME OF WAIT FOR MUELLER.
WAIT FOR MUELLER.
HE DETAILS ALL THIS STUFF AND
SUDDEN LAY BUNCH OF MEMBERS
SAID, WE NEED WHATEVER.
YOU’RE SAYING THEY CAN’T DO IT
THIS TIME?
THIS TIME? >> THE PRESIDENT DID WHATEVER
DID HE WITH THE INSPECTOR IN
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. TEETH HOUSE WILL HOLD HIM
ACCOUNTABLE OR NOT.
NO ONE ELSE WILL.
IT WON’T GET TO THE COURTS IN A
TIMELY FASHION.
TIMELY FASHION. EITHER THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES SAYS THIS IS
UNACCEPTABLE OF WE CANNOT BE
INVITING FOREIGN INTERFERENCE IN
OUR ELECTIONS FROM THE OVAL
OFFICE IN REAL-TIME WITH LETTING
IT GO.
IT GO. WE CAN LET IT GO FOR THE NEXT
YEAR.
YEAR. HE’LL KEEP ON DOING IT.
THE HOUSE HAS TO CHOOSE YAY OR
NAY.
NAY. THE HOUSE CANNOT SAY, VERY
INTERESTING OF I LOOK FORWARD TO
READING THE REPORT IN SIX
MONTHS.
MONTHS. >> ALL OF YOU STAY.
I WANT TO BRING IN A LITTLE MORE
FACTS FOR YOUR ANALYSIS ON THIS
WHEN WE GET INTO, WHAT DID WE
LEARN TODAY?
LEARN TODAY? WE MENTIONED SENIOR WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS HAD INTERVENED.
TAKE A LOOK.
THEY LOCKED DOWN, ACCORDING TO
THE WHISTLEBLOWER, THE RECORDS
OF THE CALL.
AND THIS ALL HAPPENED MORE THAN
ONCE.
ONCE. QUOTE.
QUOTE. THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME
UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION A
PRESIDENTIAL TRANSCRIPT WAS
PLACED INTO A CODE WORD LEVEL
SYSTEM FOR THE PURPOSE OF
PROTECTING THESE POLITICALLY
SENSITIVE, RATHER THAN NATIONAL
SECURITY SENSITIVE INFORMATION.
THE OUTLINES OF A COVER-UP.
TAKE A LISTEN TO SPEAKER PELOSI.
>> THE COMPLAINT REPORTS A,
QUOTE, REPEATED ABUSE OF AN
ELECTRONIC RECORDS SYSTEM
DESIGNED TO STORE CLASSIFIED
SENSITIVE NATIONAL SECURITY
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. WHICH THE WHITE HOUSE USED TO
HIDE INFORMATION OF A POLITICAL
NATURE.
NATURE. THIS IS A COVER-UP.
>> AND THE COMPLAINT GOES ON TO
SAY.
SAY. THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL LAWYER,
RUDOLPH GIULIANI IS A CENTRAL
FIGURE IN THE EFFORT.
ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR APPEARS TO
BE INVOLVED AS WELL.
THAT A MEETING WOULD DEPEND ON
WHETHERE SHOWED WILLINGNESS TO
PLAY BALL ON THIS PLOT ON THE
ISSUES AIRED BY RUDOLPH GIULIANI
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. HERE IS THE ACTING DNI CHIEF
TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING VERY
IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT. SHOULD YOU BELIEVE THE
MOTIVATIONS OF THIS
WHISTLEBLOWER?
WHISTLEBLOWER? TAKE A LISTEN.
>> YOU DON’T BELIEVE THE
WHISTLEBLOWER IS A POLITICAL
HACK, DO YOU, DIRECTOR?
>> I BELIEVE AS I SAID BEFORE,
MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THE
WHISTLEBLOWER IS OPERATING IN
GOOD FAITH.
GOOD FAITH. >> AS PROMISED, WE BRING IN
CONGRESSMAN HAKEEM JEFFRIES AND
THE FIFTH RANG RANKING MEMBER OF
THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE. GOOD EVENING TO YOU ON A BUSY
NIGHT.
NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I’LL BE JUDICIOUS WITH YOUR
TIME.
TIME. WHAT CHANGED TODAY IN YOUR VIEW?
>> WELL, THE RELEASE OF THE
WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT JUST
CONFIRMED THE TROUBLING NATURE
OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAD BEEN
UNFOLDING OVER THE LAST FEW
DAYS.
DAYS. IT IS CLEAR AS DAY THAT DONALD
TRUMP BETRAYED HIS OATH OF
OFFICE.
OFFICE. BETRAYED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AND HAS ENGAGED IN SERIOUS ACTS
OF WRONGDOING.
OF WRONGDOING. THE VERY ACT OF PRESSURING A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO TARGET AN
AMERICAN CITIZEN FOR POLITICAL
GAIN IS IN AND OF ITSELF
OUTRAGEOUS.
OUTRAGEOUS. NOW IT APPEARS THAT THE WHITE
HOUSE HAS ENGAGED IN A COVER-UP,
UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF THE
BEHAVIOR AND TRYING ON HIDE IT
BOTH FROM CONGRESS AND THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> LET’S DIG INTO THAT, SIR.
THE COVER-UP AS IGD LAALLEGED IN
A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WE’LL PUT UP
HERE FROM THE PRESIDENT TO
RUDOLPH GIULIANI TO OTHER
OFFICIALS LESS KNOWN BUT STILL
HAVE IMPORTANT JOBS.
THE AMBASSADOR.
THE AMBASSADOR. THE FORMER AMBASSADOR TO
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. PEOPLE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DO YOU
THINK THE CONGRESS SHOULD
SUBPOENA TO HEAR FROM?
>> WELL, THAT’S A MATTER FOR
CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF.
WE HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN WHAT
THEY’LL DO IN TERMS OF
UNCOVERING THE TRUTH FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY’LL APPLY THE LAW.
THEY’LL BE GUIDED BY THE UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION.
STATES CONSTITUTION. THIS IS AN ISSUE OF THE
INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS.
THIS IS ABOUT PARTICIPATE AT
THIS.
THIS. .
. YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
IT ALL.
IT ALL. >> I HEAR YOU DEFERRING TO
CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF.
CONGRESSMAN SCHIFF. HE HAS CLEARLY HANDLED THIS IN A
MANNER THAT HAS WORKED IN THE
SEX OF INTERBRANCH CONFLICT IN
SHORT ORDER.
SHORT ORDER. HE COMBINED WITH I GUESS THE
COLLEAGUES AND SOME WOULD, A TO
YOU PRESSURE IN THE SENATE AS
WELL.
WELL. HAVE PRIED OUT OF THE
ADMINISTRATION THESE IMPORTANT,
AND MANY WOULD ARGUE
INCRIMINATING MATERIALS.
INCRIMINATING MATERIALS. AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE REPORTS
THE SPEAKER IS GOING TO TO
DIRECT THINGS A LITTLE AWAY FROM
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN WHICH
YOU SERVE AND TOWARD THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. DO YOU THINK THAT’S RIGHT?
DO YOU THINK IF THERE ARE
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, THEY
WILL FOCUS SOLELY ON THIS
UKRAINE ISSUE?
UKRAINE ISSUE? >> THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
WE’LL KEEP THE FOCUS ON THE
SCANDAL.
SCANDAL. THE SPEAKER HAS MADE CLEAR AND
SHE’S PROVIDED TREMENDOUS
LEADERSHIP OVER THE LAST FEW
DAYS AS SHE HAS THROUGHOUT HER
ENTIRE CAREER, WE ARE OPERATING
UNDER AN IMPEACHMENT UMBRELLA
WITH SIX COMMITTEES OF
JURISDICTION.
JURISDICTION. BECAUSE OF THE NATURE, THE
URGENT NATURE OF THE UKRAINE
SCANDAL, THE LEAD IN TERMS OF
INVESTIGATIVE FACT-FINDING WILL
BE THE INTEL COMMITTEE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
>> AND YOU’RE PART OF THE
SPEAKER’S LEADERSHIP.
SPEAKER’S LEADERSHIP. HAVE YOU TALKED TO CHAIRMANNED
IN A LETTER, CHAIRMAN NADLER ON
>> WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE IS TAKING
A STEP FORWARD.
BUT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS,
THE INTEL COMMITTEE AND THE
OTHER COMMITTEES OF JURISDICTION
INCLUDING THE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE AND THE FINANCIAL
SERVICES COMMITTEE WILL MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE AS TO HOW TO PROCEED.
>> LET’S GET INTO THAT.
>> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE
ENCHILADA HERE.
ENCHILADA HERE. YOU’RE SAYING THE WAY IT WOULD
WORK, THIS IS CONFIRMED THAT
INTEL IS TAKING THE LEAD.
WHATEVER THEY FIND HERE, THEY
THEN SEND ULTIMATELY TO CHAIRMAN
NADLER.
NADLER. IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD ON
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, THEY GO
FROM INTEL TO JUDICIARY TO THE
HOUSE FLOOR?
HOUSE FLOOR? >> YES.
>> YES. THAT WOULD BE REGULAR ORDER AND
THAT’S CONSISTENT WITH THE FACT
THE INTEL COMMITTEE HAS
JURISDICTION OVER THIS ISSUE
THAT INVOLVES A CONVERSATION
BETWEEN PRESIDENT AND A FOREIGN
LEADER AS WELL AS THE ATTEMPTED
USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, IN
TERMS OF THE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAD
BEEN ALLOCATED BY THE CONGRESS
TO UKRAINE AND WITHHELD.
THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT IS UNDER
ATTACK FROM RUSSIA AT THIS VERY
MOMENT.
MOMENT. THE PRESIDENT CLEARLY WANTED TO
USE THAT AID IN A SENSITIVE
POSITION THAT UKRAINE WAS IN IN
ORDER TO EXTRACT AN
INVESTIGATION TARGETING JOE
BIDEN AND THE BIDEN FAMILY FOR
POLITICAL GAIN.
POLITICAL GAIN. THAT ALL FALLS WITHIN THE
JURISDICTION OF THE INTEL
COMMITTEE AND THAT’S WHY THE
INTEL COMMITTEE WILL BE TAKING
THE LEAD.
THE LEAD. BECAUSE OF THIS SUBJECT MATTER.
>> UNDERSTOOD AND ALL VERY
INTERESTING INCLUDING YOU
TELLING US A LITTLE ABOUT THE
MEETINGS AND THE TRGSS.
I HAVE A TOUGHER QUESTION FOR
YOU, SIR.
YOU, SIR. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED
WITH WHAT YOU AND THE SPEAKER
AND CHAIRMAN SCHIFF ARE DOING
THIS WEEK.
THIS WEEK. AND YOU JUST HATED OUT THE
URGENT NATIONAL SECURITY CASE.
AND YET THE HOUSE IS GOING TO
THEN GO ON RECESS TOMORROW.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE CLAIM THAT
THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY
EMERGENCY?
EMERGENCY? IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
SHOULD YOU AND THE SPEAKER
RETHINK THAT?
RETHINK THAT? AND STAY AT WORK ON ALL THIS?
>> I THINK TWO THINGS WILL
HAPPEN.
HAPPEN. ONE, IT IS IMPORTANT GIVEN THE
SOLEMN AND SERIOUS NATURE OF
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO GIVEN THE
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK HOME AND
TALK TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS ON
THE GROUND, IN AMERICAN, IN AN
INTIMATE WAY TO COMMUNICATE THE
APPROACH THAT WE’VE TAKEN.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE INTEL
COMMITTEE IS GOING TO PROCEED
WITH HEARINGS AND INVESTIGATIVE
MATTERS OVER THAT RECESS TO
CONTINUE TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH,
TO FOLLOW THE FACTS, TO PRESENT
THE EVIDENCE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. >> YOU DON’T THINK YOU’LL LOSE,
SHALL WE CALL IT, MOMENTUM HERE?
>> THE INTEL COMMITTEE IS GOING
FULL STEAM AHEAD.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE MOST
IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE’LL BE
COMMUNICATING IN OUR DISTRICTS
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHY THIS
IS SO IMPORTANT.
WHY THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY
CONCERN.
CONCERN. WHY WE HAVE TAKEN THIS IMPORTANT
STEP FORWARD.
STEP FORWARD. >> CONGRESSMAN JEFFRIES, ALWAYS
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
QUESTIONS, SIR.
QUESTIONS, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ARI.
>> I WANT TO TURN BRIEFLY TO THE
PANEL HERE.
PANEL HERE. RAPID ONE OR TWO SENTENCES.
ANYTHING YOU THOUGHT BASED ON
WHAT HE SAID AND WHERE THEY’RE
HEADED?
HEADED? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I THINK THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING
LASER FOCUSED IN THIS INQUIRY
CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.
YOU COULD POTENTIALLY CALL 100
WITNESSES TO TRY TO SHED LIGHT
ON ALL THE EVENTS HERE.
AND I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF THAT TIME.
>> I DON’T THINK THEY CAN CALL,
THEY CAN CALL ON A DOZEN WHO
WOULD KNOW A LOT.
DAN COATS AND MIKE POMPEO.
>> BUT LEAVE UKRAINE OUT OF
THIS.
THIS. >>?
>>? YES.
YES. SHE MIGHT TELL CONGRESS TO GO
BACK TO WORK.
THE SECOND THING MOST
IMPORTANTLY IS THE ONE OF THE
KEY REASONS WHY THIS IS
DIFFERENT THAN THE MUELLER IS
THAT WE HAVE A LIVE DOCUMENT.
AND WE HAVEN’T EVEN SEEN THE
UNREDACTED TRANSCRIPT.
UNREDACTED TRANSCRIPT. THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMITTEES
AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN LOOK
AT AND SEE.
NO MATTER WHAT THE SPIN IS, NO
MATTER HOW IT PLAYS OUT, IF THE
GOVERNMENT COMES FORWARD AND
SAYS YES, WE’LL TURN OVER THE
INFORMATION.
INFORMATION. EVERYBODY WILL SEE AND JUDGE IT.
IF THEY SAY, THEY ALLOW FOR
PRIVILEGE, IT WILL RAISE AN
INFERENCE THAT THERE IS
SOMETHING TO HIDE HERE.
EITHER WAY, IT’S A MUCH MORE
POWERFUL SUB MATTER.