- [Eric] I mean… the list goes on and on.
Like you've also written with NCT.
What was that project like?
Was that one of those things where you just
kind of had it written and they kind of picked it up?
Kind of like Chen?
- [Eric] Well speaking of being on the merry-go-round…
You know your latest song is with Heize…
You released it in November of 2020.
It's called, ‘2easy.’
Can you tell us a little bit about that song?
And the creation process?
- [NIve] ‘2easy’...
It's the song that I wrote like two years ago.
And then I sent—
It's a song about... two lovers.
We're talking about the emotional temperature difference.
Like you know if you fall in love with somebody else…
Let's say a guy and a girl.
What we think love is could be different from what the other that person thinks.
Like what the girl thinks.
So it's just like that difference.
So for example…
I was talking to Heize about...
I think there are some people…
The girls who think love is so easy.
They meet up with people like me so easily.
And then they leave so easily.
So I think there are people who think…
You know who treats people and love so easily.
And then she told me…
Saying that, “But have you ever thought about in their shoe?
When they said goodbye to you.
That could mean that they thought about so many…
Like so deeply.
And they finally came to the conclusion.
Maybe they might have told you that…
You know goodbye after a process of like serious thoughts.
And I think you're disregarding the fact.
So that makes you a bad boy.”
And I'm like…
I was like, “Hold on. Let me think about that.”
I really didn't mean that but then…
That's the time that I thought that…
Oh so what a guy thinks is love could be different from what a girls think about love.
So I thought that could be the interesting perspective.
So I asked Heize about…
“Why don't you write your version like lyrics for this song?
What you think about like love and breakup.”
So that's how the song came to be.
And yeah it's about the emotional temperature difference between them.
- [Eric] I mean the list goes on and on.
Like you've also written with NCT.
What was that project like?
Was that one of those things where you just kind of had it written and they kind of picked it up?
Kind of like Chen?
That process?
- [NIve] Yeah yeah yeah. Similar process.
I was given like piano track.
And then that's the song…
It's called, ‘My Everything.’
Which was consisted in a very recent album called ‘RESONACE’.
That song too it came out in two hours.
Not because…
- [Eric] Why are you so talented?
- [NIve] No no no.
Let's just say like sometimes it takes me like more
than a day or two to come up with some like solid ideas.
But I think all the loved songs or related songs of mine that I've written…
Are the songs that came out so like quickly.
You know even ‘2easy’.
‘Like a Fool’ too, you know.
I think…
That's why I always think that grasping the moment of inspiration is so important.
That's why I always carry my phone and I'm just like voice memoing...
- [Eric] Humming random things in there.
- [NIve] Yeah! - [Eric] I do that too.
- [NIve] Isn't it like kind of embarrassing to go over like few of those.
- [Eric] Dude…
I hate going back into it.
Like I was doing it yesterday and I was like…
I really should just stop singing because this sounds horrendous.
But it's so embarrassing.
- [NIve] That's how I feel every day too.
Like every hour.
- [Eric] Oh my gosh.
No, you're killing it.