joining me now is former secretary of
state mike pompeo
uh secretary wonderful to see you you
heard that sound bite from
the current secretary of state anthony
blinken talking about
uh china and president xi xi and he's
going to be at this
virtual conference tomorrow your
thoughts on what you expect to hear
when china is the biggest offender when
it comes to the climate
well jackie thanks for having me on my
expectations we'll hear what we've heard
from the chinese communist party before
a series of commitments that they have
absolutely no intention of honoring
they have broken more promises over
these last years including a president a
promise to
president obama that they wouldn't
militarize the south china sea
we need to see real actions i don't know
what xi xingping will say precisely
tomorrow
but america's security american
prosperity depends on watching what the
chinese actually do
not what they speak about at summits or
phrases that they have no intention of
actually carrying out
well it's interesting because when it
comes to red lines whether we're talking
about russia whether we're talking about
iran north korea
um or china when it came to the trump
administration it seemed that a lot of
progress was being made and
you know leaders of these foreign
countries really took the president
seriously because he meant
what he said but when it came to
president obama or possibly president
biden
not so much what can we expect going
forward when it comes to vladimir putin
when it comes to the supreme leader of
iran when it comes to president xi
i mean we have trouble spots across the
world
jackie these these things are all
connected your point's very well taken
one of the things that we were careful
to do is that we didn't make commitments
we didn't make threats
that we weren't prepared to execute that
we weren't prepared to deliver on we
were
we were careful in what we said and bold
in what we did
i hope this administration doesn't flip
that's on its head the the moment
these adversaries find out that we are
making promises that we're not prepared
to back up they will drive a truck
through that
appeasement only begets war and uh
power comes from having the capacity to
deter by nations understanding that when
leaders speak they mean what they say
and so we'll we'll see i wish them the
best tomorrow i hope that the chinese
communist party is going to reverse
its polluting course but there's no
reason to believe that's actually
absolutely the case well on the with
respect to the climate uh
change of course president trump
withdrew from the paris climate accord
and president biden now went back into
it when it comes to the iran nuclear
deal for example
the president's intention currently to
get back into it trying to have those
conversations
with iran a country that is very very
difficult to communicate with i mean the
thing that worked
in that respect was sanctions and now
we're talking about potentially lifting
sanctions
jackie i've watched them now go to
vienna with the same cast of characters
that appeased iran once before
and gave them billions of dollars worth
of wealth for which they could use
to underwrite hezbollah foment terror
and build out their nuclear program
we took the opposite approach we denied
them resources we had they were forced
to cut
their soldiers pay in half they were
forced to make really hard choices about
how they were going to
execute their mission around the world
they understand strength the iranians
always
defer to it when they see it if we go to
the negotiating table and give them
again a pathway to a nuclear weapon it
only means
less security for the american people
and less security for our allies in the
region as well
and there are a group of republicans
trying to bring legislation to the table
to block
president biden's ability to lift those
sanctions
do you think they will prevail
i hope so this shouldn't be a partisan
issue this has nothing to do with rs or
ds or conservator or liberal
this has to do with american security
your points well taken you
these are terrorist organizations if you
lift a sanction
on an organization that's still engaged
in terror and you say no for this moment
we're going to pretend they are not
terrorists
we will only create an incentive for
more terrorism more risk
this should be bipartisan i hope that
that legislation that's been put forward
will come to pass and will be law mike
pompeo great to see you thanks for your
time tonight