Some Republicans voters are absolutely devastated by a new poll that
indicates that.
Most young Democrats or most young people who identify as Democrats
are not interested in dating or befriending Conservatives.
Now this is a study of 850 college students and
it found that 71%, let's take a look at this graph,
71% of Democrats would not go on a date with someone who voted for Donald Trump.
Just 31% of Republicans surveyed said they would not go on a date with a Biden
supporter.
So there's significant difference here, right?
It also found that 4 out of 10 Democrats would not shop at or
support a business of Trump voters.
Just 7% of Republicans felt the same way about Biden voters and
3 in 10 Biden voters would not work for someone who voted for Trump.
Just 7% of Trump voters felt the same way about Biden supporting or
Biden voting bosses.
So there's a significant difference.
I'm actually personally a little surprised at the difference between
Democratic voters and Republicans voters here.
Because I would honestly think that Republicans would feel the same way,
but apparently they don't according to this one pole and.
>> I can explain why.
>> Yeah, so go ahead, explain why and then.
>> So not all of it can be explained easily, but the dating part can so,
and I know this because I'm a former Republicans and so
that means I had other Republicans friends and I know how Republicans think.
So if you told the Republicans, hey, do you want to date a Democratic girl?
Yeah, right?
I don't have to explain further.
And so that because that's the mindset, like,
that'd be great if I had sex with a Democratic girl, right?
Because like if you're a person that you think like dating is not about ha ha it's
about do I get along with you?
You might not even get what the, how they're thinking, right?
And then for Republicans women,
they think Democratic guys are usually kind hearted and good people, right?
They know that, right?
>> Are they?
>> [LAUGH] So that's why I think Republicans think dating and
Democrats sounds pretty good, right?
But for Democrats dating a Republican, what you're against gay people and
black people and Muslims, and you name it, why would I want to date you?
That's I'm not interested in dating monsters, and so
I want to get their hurt feelings in a second but yeah.
>> So, look, I think that dating is a special category.
So I'm only talking about myself here and
however anyone else would vote or feel is their business.
But for me, dating your having a relation, like an intimate relationship
with someone, we're not just talking about banging.
We're talking, we're talking about dating like dating requires,
like spending time with each other quality time with each other.
And for me personally, I would have a little bit of difficulty
dating a Trump supporter, mostly because of what Trump represents.
And I'm not just talking about policies, although his policies were pretty awful
tax cuts for the rich and that's pretty much it.
But what he represents in terms of how you treat people,
just like the lack of decency toward individuals who are different or
diverse like that, that would bother me to no end.
And I don't think I would be able to have a romantic relationship with
someone as a result of that.
But I think befriending someone who might have voted for Trump, I have done that and
I definitely can do that and, I'm going to change their minds.
>> No, okay well.
>> That's the way that I see it, right?
And look there are friends and then there are like friends like my
friend Lauren who I would trust my life with Lauren.
We're talking about everyday friends like, hey, what's up?
Let's grab a coffee or whatever.
I think I could be a friend to a Trump supporter and
my take is I want to believe that most people are good and
I genuinely do think that we're all kind of like siloed off.
We're all in our filter bubbles and I'm convinced that a significant
portion of Trump supporters are not exposed to the truth or to reality.
And I think that it actually hurts us when we cut them off and
just I say we're done with them, we're not gonna have any conversations with them.
I think that there is power and persuasion.
I think there's power in friendship and
I think that we need to get better just trying to have conversations,
like if you're not comfortable with it, you don't want to do it.
I'm totally fine with that.
I'm not judging, but I'm trying to be a little more open minded in having
conversations with people I disagree.
With the hope that I'm proven right, that most people are good people and
they can be persuaded to the good side.
>> Okay, so I'm gonna be way harsher than you, but
I'm also, this is a very rare issue where I'm indecisive.
[LAUGH] So, and you've seen me struggle with it on air countless times and
normally I I'm not shy about being decisive.
So look at number one first, let me make fun of them and let me draw my lines.
So you want to work with someone who's Republicans?
Yeah, what you gonna do?
You gonna ask everybody their politics now, that one I don't care about at all
and would you shop at a place that's owned by a Republicans?
Yeah, I don't care.
>> I'll alert you already do.
>> Yeah, you do.
Of course you do and you shop at a place owned by a Democrat?
Of course you do, right?
So no, that's micromanaging your life in a way that's like stressful.
No, I that's unrealistic.
So everybody has their own lines that's my line, right?
I don't mind those dating totally out of the question, totally not even close.
Now you went into a spiel about like, well I spent a lot of quality,
well I don't wanna spend any time, let alone quality time.
Like guys think about it, okay, they,
a lot of Republicans think that gay people are less, should have less human
rights than everybody else know that your monster, I'm not interested.
Really?
Let's have an interesting conversation about how much you hate gay people.
No, no, let's not have that conversation.
I don't find it interesting.
A lot of Republicans think do black lives really matter?
Now they wouldn't frame it that way, but they would say,
the millions of black people who say cops are abusing them, they're all liars.
I don't believe that, might believe the cops.
No, not interested in having a conversation with you who let alone
dating you.
Hell no.
And guys, so I can give you 1000 other examples, but
let's get personal here, right?
So my family's Muslim, I'm atheist now, but we immigrated from Turkey,
a Muslim country and forget what Trump did when he was in office.
He tried to harsher Muslim ban?
I don't wanna get in that nonsense debate, but when he was on the campaign trail and
it was actually more relevant, he very, very clearly said.
He was a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the country.
That was very well publicized.
Most Republicans definitely heard that and definitely love that and
then voted for him after that.
So I'm supposed to date a girl who thinks I should have been banned from
the country?
Other than the irony, then I wouldn't be on the stage if you got your way and
I was banned, right?
You're obviously hateful and I don't find it like any better that your hateful
against Muslims because in America there is a sense of like, yeah, but
it's okay to hate Muslims.
No, my mom's Muslim, it's not okay to hate Muslims.
Okay, so, and then Anna, when I said something along these lines online,
I partly do it to get the right wing reaction because I'm curious about it.
Okay, and so one of us, so
a lot of the reactions were like, now you're judging people from far away.
Wait, you thought it was okay to ban me from the country, but
now you're worried about me judging, you are judging us and trying to ban us.
Don't tell me about you know why, because they're incredibly selfish.
So they think Benny, you completely awesome, you hurt my feelings.
That is not awesome is what I say to that.
And one last thing about that and we discussed back and forth and
they then good, well meaning, Democrats,
progressives say now Cenk remember two wrongs don't make a right, no, no.
If the Nazis say, hey, I'd like to put the Jews in concentration camps and
you say, well, I'm not going to date any Nazis.
Hey, hey, two wrongs don't make a right, okay.
Don't judge the Nazis.
No, I will judge them.
I will judge them I will not date them.
You can't call republicans Nazis because they were just trying to ban Muslims,
not Jews.
>> Yeah like, okay, so your mind, and
I think rightly goes to the extreme Trump supporters, his like core base.
So they all heard it and they all voted for.
>> No, I get it.
Yes, they did.
It's true, but I also think about the fact that The state
of Florida went to Obama in '08 and 2012.
>> Yeah that's okay. >> Okay, so I give you that example
because the Republicans Party specifically relies
on hatred and xenophobia to do their campaigning,
especially at times of economic anxiety.
Okay and I think that that strategy unfortunately works,
especially when there's like a vacuum in regards to like the Democratic Party and
what they represent.
They should be the appropriate response to that and they have failed to do so.
So I think that there are people who ended up voting for Trump who aren't, I don't
think that they're a lost cause and I don't know, maybe I'm being super naive.
And I'm typically the one on this show who's the most pessimistic,
the most neurotic and the most against having any faith in anything.
So but I look, I'm not having sex with them.
Like that's where I draw the line.
I'm not interested.
I like it's too hard for me to find that kind of intimacy.
And I think we're on the same page there.
My whole point is in terms of conversing in terms of like having open
dialogue in terms of like being open to a potential friendship.
I don't want to shut that possibility
out because at some point we need to find a strategy that.
Mitigates the very intentional division that's sewn in this country by
conservatives, conservative lawmakers.
>> So that's where I'm indecisive and you make great points.
So, but let me just say one last thing about the dating in the sex part.
Look, I knew Republicans men.
I'm telling you right now, if you're a woman on the left in a Republicans man
sleeps with you, there's a 99% chance he's going to go tell his friends.
[LAUGH] I got her.
>> Okay with conservative.
>> And so when the Republicans men are like, 71% don't want to date us,
cry me a river man okay after you are vicious to everyone else.
All of a sudden your feelings are hurt.
I don't care about your feelings at all.
Okay now on the other hand, should you be friends with them?
That's the part, that's hard guys.
Look, we'll do two different poles, We'll put these up on YouTube, okay.
Would you date a Republicans and would you be friends with the Republicans?
The friends zone is hard because I can't be a closer.
I don't have any close friends anymore than are republicans because how am I
gonna have a conversation with them where they're like, what do you think?
Should we ban the Muslims or the Jews?
Which one?
How do I have a conversation?
No, black people deserved it, right.
No, how do I have a conversation with you?
Right on the other hand, and it's a matter of fact, Anna's right.
A lot of them voted for Obama.
Obama won Indiana, okay.
So it's not, they're not irredeemable, but
that, well, has been poisoned by, conservative media and Trump.
>> And we took our ball and went home.
Let's keep it real.
That's my issue and I want to fight back against it.
And look, a lot of people might disagree on that, right?
A lot of people might think like, no, Anna you're wrong we should cut them off.
Okay but then you have to accept that if we do that,
then the division that we're already experiencing will continue to deepen and
the country will tear itself apart and I'm tired of that.
I want to find a better way, a different way even knowing that my proposal
here is gonna be pretty difficult for me to even carry out, right.
Like you think I'm like looking forward to having those conversations.
I'm not, but there's gotta be a better way than just cutting people off and
considering them a lost cause again,
that's just going to continue deepening this division.
And I just think we're right and I think we can be persuasive and
I think we can win.
>> Then I'll end on this guy.
So, and by the way, Obama had, I think around 80% popular might even been
83% when he first came into office in 2008 and
that's in 2008 elections when he won Indiana.
So that means that they're huge portion of conservatives are not
irredeemable, like there is a way to reach them, right?
So I get that and I want to do that and you'll see me every once in a while and
say, hey, can we work with you guys on economic issues?
Don't you want higher salaries?
Don't you want health care for your family.
So we need to work with the Republicans on some issues and
most especially on corruption.
That's why I keep going back and forth.
But Republicans, if you're listening to this,
can you get it through your head that when you say to huge portions of us,
we don't like you, we hate you, we want to own the libs.
We don't want you to have the same rights as us,
etc that might be a terrible thing to say and that you can't then say,
I caught feelings because you said 1% of what I normally say to you.
It's got to go both ways.
Democrats can't be fools and reach out like, okay, like I said,
a person from a Muslim background,
I'm not gonna ask them pretty pleased to accept me as a human being.
>> You plans said so.
>> Yeah, well I plan to cheat after I kicked the living crap out of them.
Okay, don't be friends, like you're not going to help in the way that I know.
But I just need, look, if you're a right winger,
I know these days you're because of the media bubble you're in.
You've been taught irrationality and you think being irrational is awesome, but
how can you not understand if you say, hey, I want to ban you?
I think you're so despicable based on who you are, that you can't even change.
I hate you so much.
I want you banned from the country and then go, well, you don't like me.
I'm offended by that.
Can you really be that irrational that you would think that I'm the bad guy and
that you're the good guy, just because I wanted to ban your existence.
Now I'm the bad guy yes.
Yes that makes you a bad guy.
That's the definition of a bad guy when you pick someone based on the race,
religion, etc and say I hate you.
So it's got to go both ways.
If you don't come any way towards our direction, I'm not going to right wing and
asking them or pleading with them to not hate me.