MARIA: WE'LL BE WAITING AND
WATCHING FOR THAT.
KRISTIN, THANKS VERY MUCH.
KRISTIN FISHER AT THE WHITE
HOUSE THIS MORNING.
JOINING US NOW TO TALK MORE
ABOUT THAT IS JUDGE ANDREW
NAPOLITANO.
JUDGE, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> YOU SAID TO TALK ABOUT THAT,
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
FIRST LADY'S JACKET.
[ LAUGHTER ]
MARIA: YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE
RULING TO REUNITE SEPARATED
MIGRANT FAMILIES.
>> WELL, I AGREE WITH THE
RULING.
I THINK THE SEPARATION OF THE
CHILDREN WAS HORRIFIC AND
SOME OF THE CHILDREN ARE IN NEW
YORK AND THE PARENTS ARE IN
TEXAS AND I'M HAPPY THAT IT'S
COMING TO AN END.
I REALIZE THIS IS NOT NOVEL WITH
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BUT IT
CAME TO OUR COLLECTIVE
ENDED.
MARIA: WHY DID IT COME INTO OUR
CONSCIENCE NOW WHEN WE KNOW IT'S
BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG.
>> THE PEOPLE THAT BRING THESE
THINGS TO OUR COLLECTIVE
CONSCIENCE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS
TO MAKE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
LOOK EXCESSIVE, COMBINE THAT TO
THE ZERO TOLERANCE, THE LIT L
RAIL WAY IN -- LITERAL WAY IN
WHICH GLIER
WHICH ZLIER
WHICH ZERER
WHICH ZEROR
WHICH ZERO TOLERANCE WAS
ENACTED.
IN MY VIEW, THE FEDERAL
OFFICIALS SUBJECTED THEMSELVES
TO STATE PROSECUTION FOR
KIDNAPPING AND FOR CHILD ABUSE.
I'M GLAD THIS IS ENDING.
APPEALS OR IS THIS THE LAST WE
HEARD OF IT AND OBVIOUSLY I WANT
FAMILIES TO STAY TOGETHER.
>> IF THE DOJ APPEALS THE
DECISION, WHICH I JUST READ THIS
MORNING FOR YOU, IS A VERY, VERY
REASONED, LONG OPINION, TAKING
INTO ACCOUNT ARGUMENTS ON BOTH
SIDES, THE INTERESTS OF THE
GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS THE
INTEREST OF THE PARENTS AND THE
BABIES.
IF THE DOJ APPEALS THIS WE'RE
GOING TO BE BACK WITH THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION SHOVELING AGAINST
THE TIDE OF BAD P.R.
THAT'S A DECISION FOR JEFF
SESSIONS, ULTIMATELY IT'S A
DECISION FOR THE PRESIDENT.
DAGEN: ONE THING I WANT TO
POINT OUT.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWN HOW SCOTUS
WOULD RULE ON THE TRAVEL BAN IF
TIME.
YOU CALLED IT.
THIS IS ULTIMATELY THE
DISCRETION AND THE POWER OF THE
PRESIDENCY.
>> THE COURT MADE IT CLEAR A
COUPLE OF THINGS, WE ARE NOT
GOING TO SAY THIS IS WISE, WE'RE
PRUDENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY
IT'S EFFICIENT.
THIS.
THE DISSENTERS SAID WAIT A
THIS IS ANIMOUS AGAINST MUSE
POLICE
MULICE
MUSLCE
MUSLIMS.THE STANDARD FOR THE GOV
MUSLIMS.THE STANDARD FOR THE GOR
MUSLIMS.THE STANDARD FOR THE GOM
IS A HIGH BAR OVER WHICH THIS
EXECUTIVE ORDER CAN'T JUMP.
THE MAJORITY SAYS WAIT A MINUTE,
THERE WILL BE NO END TO WHERE WE
JUST GOING TO LOOK AT THE FOUR
CORNERS OF THE DOCUMENT.
A JUSTICE WROTE ONE OF THE MOST
FEROCIOUS DISSENTS I'VE EVER
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COM
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COA
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COI
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COG
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COE
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COF
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COC
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COT
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COO
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COF
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COT
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COI
SEEN, COMPARING THE EVIDENCE COS
DECISION TO FDR'S INCARCERATION
WERE TWO OF THE EIGHT COUNTRIES
IN THE TRAVEL BAN.
TO ARGUE IT'S A MUSLIM BAN IS
DAGEN: IT STANDS.
>> IT WAS A PRELIMINARY RULING
BEFORE TRIAL.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRIAL,
YES.
AT THE TRIAL, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
THE SUPREME COURT HAS RULED.
THEY CAN SAY IT DOESN'T APPLY TO
I'VE BEEN PAID TO GIVE THE
LECTURE, MY STUDENTS ARE WAITING
FOR ME, I'M NOT A DANGER, I'M AN
ASSET.
THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
HUNDREDS AT EVERY MAJOR ENTRY
POINT IN THE UNITED STATES.
MARIA: HOW ABOUT TODAY, BIG
CASE ON THE DOCKET, JUSTICES
EXPECTED TO RULE THIS WEEK ON
THE FORCED UNION FEES CASE,
JUDGE, THE CASE CENTERING AROUND
AN ILLINOIS LAW REQUIRING
NONMEMBERS TO PAY FEES THAT GO
SECTOR
SEC UR
SEC UNIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS IN
THE BUILDING IS SEATED NEXT TO
ME.
>> ANOTHER DAY OF UNHAPPINESS.
>> I EXPECT A 5-4 RULING, BASED
ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM
OF ASSOCIATION.
THEY'RE BOTH GUARANTEED IN THE
FIRST AMENDMENT.
THANK GOD.
EXTRAPOLATE.
IS CAN'T FORCE -- THE STATES
CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO JOIN
MAJORITY RULING WILL BE.
THIS WILL BE CATASTROPHIC FOR
THE PUBLIC SECTOR LABOR UNIONS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE THRIVED ON
COMPULSORY MEMBERSHIP.
WITHOUT COMPULSORY MEMBERSHIP
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFFER
THINGS TO THEIR POTENTIAL
MEMBERS TO DRAW THEM IN
VOLUNTARILY.
YOU DO SOMETHING THEY THINK THEY
SHOULD GET FEES FOR THEY SEND
YOU AN INVOICE.
>> CORRECT.
THEIR THEORY IS YOU'RE A PART OF
THE UNION BUT YOU'RE NOT PAYING
FULL DUES BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE
THE WAY WE SPEND YOUR DOLLARS
POLITICALLY.
YOU CAN DEDUCT FROM YOUR DUES TO
A PUBLIC SECTOR UNION A PRORATED
PORTION THAT GOES TO --
MARIA: IF YOU ASSOCIATE WITH
SOMEBODY THAT'S IN THE UNION,
HAVE YOU TO PAY.
>> THE UNION NEGOTIATES FOR
EVERYBODY.
STATE OF NEW JERSEY, I WAS A
JUDGE, THERE WAS NO LABOR UNION
BUT EVERYBODY THAT WORKED FOR US
WAS IN A UNION.
THEY HAD COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND
THEY WOULD SEND YOU A BILL.
DO YOU PAY THE BILL, DOES THE