THAT’S THEIR LAW. >> SIR --
>> SIR -- >> QUIET.
>> QUIET. >> AND JOINING ME NOW IS
KELLYANNE CONWAY COUNSELOR TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. WELCOME BACK TO "MEET THE
PRESS."
PRESS." >> THANK YOU, CHUCK.
>> I WANT TO START WITH
SOMETHING THAT SENATOR GRAHAM
SAID ON FRIDAY ON CNN.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD STOP
THIS POLICY WITH THE PHONE CALL.
>> HE DOESN’T SEEM TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. >> WELL, HE CAN’T.
NOW GO TELL HIM.
IF YOU DON’T LIKE FAMILIES BEING
SEPARATED YOU CAN TELL DHS STOP
DOING IT.
DOING IT. >> IS THE PRESIDENT READY TO
MAKE THAT PHONE CALL TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO DHS, TO STOP
THIS POLICY?
THIS POLICY? >> THE PRESIDENT IS READY TO GET
MEANINGFUL IMMIGRATION REFORM
ACROSS THE BOARD AND CHUCK, LET
ME JUST TELL YOU THAT NOBODY
LIKES SEEING BABIES RIPPED FROM
THEIR MOTHER’S ARMS, FROM THEIR
MOTHER’S WOMBS FRANKLY, BUT WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT DHS IS --
THE LAWS ARE UNDERSTOOD THROUGH
THE SOUND BITE CULTURE WE LIVE
IN.
IN. THERE ARE THREE CIRCUMSTANCES BY
WHICH DHS EVALUATES A CHILD AT
THE BORDER.
THE BORDER. ONE IS DOES THIS CHILD ACTUALLY
HAVE A CUSTODIAL OR FAMILIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ADULT?
NUMBER TWO, IS THE CHILD IN
DANGER AND PLENTY HAVE BEEN OVER
TIME.
TIME. SOME ADULTS ARE USING CHILDREN
TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE BORDER.
NUMBER THREE IS THE ADULT
SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION?
THIS IS A VEXING PROBLEM THAT
BOTH PRESIDENTS BUSH AND
PRESIDENT OBAMA FACED AS WELL.
SECRETARY OF DHS UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA TOLD "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
THIS WEEKEND THAT THIS WAS THE
BANE OF HIS EXISTENCE FOR THREE
YEARS.
YEARS. HE WAS DESCRIBING THE FACT THAT
THEY HAD TO DETAIN FAMILIES IN
THESE LARGE FACILITIES FOR A
VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE IN THE SUMMER OF 2014,
WE SAW THIS SURGE PARTICULARLY
FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.
TENS OF THOUSANDS IF NOT MORE
UNACCOMPANIED MINERS COMING TO
THE BORDER AND TRYING TO GAIN
ENTRY.
ENTRY. I HAVE A TEENAGE DAUGHTER, YOU
HAVE A DEAN AGE DAUGHTER.
CAN WE SAY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE
THAT WE KNOW ALL -- WHAT
HAPPENED TO THE TEENAGE GIRLS?
VERY LEFT LEANING REPORTERS FROM
HUFF PO DID A SEGMENT ABOUT THE
GIRLS FACED CERTAIN RAPE TRYING
TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY NORTHWARD.
MANY OF THEM ARE GETTING
VACCINATED OR GETTING SHOTS FOR
BIRTH CONTROL BECAUSE IT WAS
ALMOST CERTAIN.
ALMOST CERTAIN. THIS IS A PERILOUS JOURNEY FOR
MANY OF THE CHILDREN AND IF
PEOPLE CARED, WE WOULD FIGURE
OUT WAY TO GET THE FUNDING TO
EXPAND THE CENTERS AND TO CLOSE
THE LOOPHOLES.
THE LOOPHOLES. THESE LOOPHOLES ARE ALLOWING
OPEN BORDER POLICIES.
I THINK WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS
SAYING IF THE DEMOCRATS ARE
SERIOUS THEY’LL COME TOGETHER
AGAIN AND TRY TO CLOSE THESE
LOOPHOLES AND GET REAL
IMMIGRATION REFORM.
IMMIGRATION REFORM. >> SO IT SOUNDS LIKE -- THIS IS
GOING TO SOUND HARSH BUT SOUNDS
LIKE YOU’RE HOLDING THE KIDS
HOSTAGE TO GET THE DEMOCRATS TO
THE TABLE TO PASS SOME LAW.
>> NO.
>> NO. >> YOU DISJUST LAID OUT A VERY
COMPASSIONATE CASE FOR WHY.
I UNDERSTAND, YOU JUST LAID OUT
A VERY COMPASSION -- WITH A LOT
OF COMPASSION, A LOT OF EMPATHY
IN THERE.
IN THERE. BUT IT’S NOT VERY EMPATHETIC THE
MOST TRAUMATIC THING TO DO TO
THE KID SEPARATE THEM FROM THEIR
PARENTS ONCE THEY MADE THAT
JOURNEY.
JOURNEY. WHY DO THAT RIGHT NOW?
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE AN
IMMIGRATION DEBATE GOING ON IN
THIS COUNTRY.
THIS COUNTRY. WHY USE THESE KIDS AS LEVERAGE?
>> WELL, I CERTAINLY DON’T WANT
ANYBODY TO USE THESE KIDS AS
LEVERAGE.
LEVERAGE. I SAW A HEADLINE THAT
BREATHLESSLY SCREAMED AS MUCH
AND I OBJECTED TO THAT
FORCEFULLY.
FORCEFULLY. LET ME SAY THIS.
THESE CHILDREN ARE --
>> IN FAIRNESS BY THE WAY IT WAS
A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL WHO TOLD
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" -- THE
THINKING IS TO FORCE PEOPLE TO
THE TABLE.
THE TABLE. >> BY THE WAY I WANT THAT PERSON
TO SAY IT TO MY FACE, I REALLY
DO.
DO. I’LL MEET THEM AT THE WHITE
HOUSE BECAUSE I THINK THAT’S A
DISGRACE.
DISGRACE. >> SHOULD THAT PERSON BE FIRE
LIQUIDITIED?
LIQUIDITIED? >> THAT PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE
GUTS TO COME FORWARD AND PUT
THEIR NAME TO THAT QUOTE.
HOW’S THATTER?
HOW’S THATTER? NUMBER TWO, AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY, THESE CHILDREN ARE
HANDED OVER TO HHS.
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE THAT’S HEALTH AND HUMAN
SERVICES SO THEY CAN BE PUT INTO
THE FACILITIES LIKE AL CAJON
WHERE THERE WAS A REPORT THAT
THERE WERE BOYS AGED 6 TO 17 WHO
WERE ALL THERE.
THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY
MEDICATIONS.
MEDICATIONS. OBVIOUSLY, FOOD AND SHELTER.
THEY HAVE EXERCISE.
THEY HAVE EDUCATION DURING THE
DAY.
DAY. >> I DON’T -- NOBODY IS DOUBTING
THAT THEY’RE GETTING REASONABLE
CARE THERE.
CARE THERE. THE QUESTION IS, THE MOST
DRAMATIC THING TO DO IS TAKING
THEM AWAY IN FIRST PLACE.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO.
>> CHUCK --
>> YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE DOING
THAT.
THAT. >> IN ORDERS IF I COMMIT A CRIME
AND I’M PUT IN JAIL, MY FOUR
CHILDREN ARE SEPARATED FROM
THEIR MOTHER.
THEIR MOTHER. BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE A POLICY
OR WHY WOULD YOU WANT THE
CHILDREN IN JAIL WITH THEIR
PARENTS?
PARENTS? YOU WANT THEM IN THE FACILITY
TEMPORARILY OR YOU WANT THEM TO
BE REPATRIATED BACK TO THE HOME
COUNTRY WITH SAID PARENT OR COME
IN WITH A RESPONSIBLE ADULT WHO
YOU KNOW, WHO THE AUTHORITIES
ARE CONFIDENT MEANS THAT CHILD
NO HARM, WON’T GET THEM INTO THE
GANG.
GANG. WON’T SUBJECT THEM TO
TRAFFICKING OR RAPE OR WORSE.
YOU WANT THEM TO GO WITH A
FAMILY MEMBER OR ANOTHER CLOSE
FAMILY FRIEND WHO WOULD BE A
CUSTODIAN.
CUSTODIAN. SO THIS HAS BEEN A VEXING
PROBLEM FOR MANY YEARS.
I WOULD TELL EVERYBODY, THIS
WEEK WHEN THE PRESIDENT GOES TO
CONGRESS AT 5:30 ON TUESDAY, GET
TOGETHER, CHUCK, I DON’T
REMEMBER A SINGLE DEMOCRAT
DEBUT -- I COULD BE MISTAKEN,
WHERE THE REPUBLICANS AND THE
DEMOCRATS WERE INVITED TO THE
CABINET ROOM.
CABINET ROOM. I BELIEVE THAT YOUR CABLE
STATION COVERED IT LIVE.
>> SURE.
>> SURE. >> FOR ONE HOUR, DID THIS ISSUE
COME UP?
COME UP? THE DEMOCRATS ONLY WANT TO TALK
ABOUT DACA THE, DREAMERS.
>> BUT IN FAIRNESS KIDS WEREN’T
BECOME SEPARATED FROM THEIR
PARENTS THEN.
PARENTS THEN. THIS POLICY GOT IMPLEMENTED IN
APRIL.
APRIL. A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY WHERE
EVERY MIGRANT, ASYLUM SEEKERS
ARE TREATED AS A CRIMINAL.
>> IT’S ADJUDICATED, AND WHAT
THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID IS LOOK,
WE HAD A SURGE OVER THE BORDER
IN 2014.
IN 2014. MR. PRESIDENT, UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA, IT SHOCKED EVERYONE AND
WE SIMPLY DIDN’T HAVE THE
CAPACITY.
CAPACITY. WE WANT TO AVOID THAT IN THE
FUTURE AND WORK WITH.
LOOK, THE DEMOCRATS JUST OWN IT.
WHY DON’T THEY SAY, WE’RE FOR
OPEN BORDERS.
OPEN BORDERS. IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE THE MONEY
SPENT ON EVERY UNACCOMPANIED
MINOR, WE HAVE 18 MILLION IN
HOUSEHOLDS THAT MAKE LESS THAN
$35,000.
$35,000. >> BUT AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A
QUESTION OF MORALITY.
A QUESTION OF --
>> YOU HAVE HEARD ME WEIGH IN ON
THAT.
THAT. >> I DID.
>> I DID. >> AS A MOTHER, AS CATHOLIC, AS
SOMEBODY WHO HAS GOT A
CONSCIENCE AND WOULDN’T SAY THE
JUNK THAT SOMEBODY SAID.
APPARENTLY, ALLEGEDLY.
APPARENTLY, ALLEGEDLY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT NOBODY
LIKES THIS POLICY.
YOU SAW THE PRESIDENT ON CAMERA,
HE WANTS THIS TO END.
BUT EVERYBODY HAS --
>> HE CAN END IT ON HIS OWN.
>> CHUCK, CONGRESS PADDED --
PASSED A LAW THAT IT’S A CRIME.
THIS IS A CRIME TO ENTER THIS
COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.
COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. SO IF THEY DON’T LIKE THAT LAW
THEY SHOULD CHANGE IT.
>> YOU CAN KEEP THE FAMILIES
TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. WHY CAN’T YOU FIND A WAY TO
STILL POTENTIALLY --
>> -- AS OPPOSED TO --
>> WHY DON’T YOU CREATE A FAMILY
DETENTION CENTER?
DETENTION CENTER? >> WE HAD THOSE UNDER PRESIDENT
OBAMA BUT THE DEMOCRATS ARE
HOLDING UP THE FUNDING TO EXPAND
THEM.
THEM. THE PRESIDENT HAD A 70 POINT
IMMIGRATION PLAN THIS WAS
INCLUDED IN IT.
DOUBLING THE DETENTION CENTER
CAPACITY, HIRING MORE I.C.E.
AGENTS.
AGENTS. WE DON’T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
THOSE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN AT THE
BORDER TRYING TO DO THEIR JOBS
AS BEST THEY CAN, THIS IS AN
ISSUE.
ISSUE. AND IF THE DEMOCRATS ARE SERIOUS
AND IF A LOT OF REPUBLICANS ARE
SERIOUS THEY’LL COME TOGETHER.
THEY WON’T TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK
THE DREAMERS OR JUST THE WALL.
OR JUST CATCH AND RELEASE.
IT’S ALL OF THE ABOVE.
THERE ARE WAYS TO REPATRIATE
THESE FAMILIES BACK TO THEIR
HOME COUNTRIES EXPEDITIOUSLY.
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR BECAUSE
THANK YOU FOR SAYING NOBODY IS
ARGUING THE KIDS AREN’T GETTING
CARE.
CARE. A LOT OF FOLKS ARE PROPRETENDING
THE KILLEDS ARE NOT GETTING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE A ON YOUR
NETWORK ARE SAYING IT’S
ANALOGOUS TO THE CONCENTRATION
CAMPS.
CAMPS. >> I WANT TO MOVE ON TO TARIFFS.
THERE’S A HEADLINE IN "THE DES
MOINES REGISTER" THAT SHOWS THE
IMPACT THIS IS HAVING ON THE
FARM STATES.
FARM STATES. IOWA IS FEELING IT AT THE 624
MILLION HIT ON SOYBEAN SAILS
ALONE.
ALONE. PERHAPS FOR IOWA.
WE’RE IN THE FULL FLEDGED TRADE
WAR NOW WITH CHINA, CANADA, THE
EUROPEAN UNION, MEXICO WHICH MAY
NOT BE AS HELPFUL TO US IN THIS
BORDER PROBLEM BECAUSE WE’RE
BEATING THEM UP WITH TARIFFS.
IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO FOLLOW
THROUGH WITH THE TARIFFS?
>> RESPECTFULLY, THE PRESIDENT’S
POSITION IS WE LOST THE TRADE
WAR A LONG AGO AND YOU KNOW WHO
LOST IT?
LOST IT? THE AMERICAN WORKER LOST IT.
YOU HAVE OVER 300,000 NEW
CONSTRUCTION JOBS, 300,000 NEW
MANUFACTURING JOBS, MORE JOBS
CREATED IN TIMBER AND MINING.
THESE WERE INDUSTRIES THAT WERE
FLAT ON THEIR BACK IN YEARS PAST
AND NEVER HAD SEEN THE GROWTH IN
THE JOB SECURITY YOU SEE UNDER
THIS PRESIDENT.
THIS PRESIDENT. THIS PRESIDENT HAS EXEMPTED
CERTAIN COUNTRIES, INDUSTRIES.
HE’S GIVEN A PAUSE FOR A MONTH,
THEN ANOTHER MONTH.
BUT HE THINKS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
ON THE LOSING END OF THIS
SO-CALLED TRADE WAR FOR YEARS.
WE HAVE A $400 BILLION DEFICIT
WITH CHINA.
WITH CHINA. >> YOU’RE CREATING YOUR OWN
POLITICAL PROBLEM IN THE
MIDWEST.
MIDWEST. >> I DIDN’T SAY THAT.
THESE FARMERS ARE VERY -- MANY
OF THEM ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE THEY
LIKE HIS POLICIES WHEN IT COMES
TO THE TAX CUTS AND DEREGULATION
AND THE FACT THAT CHINA IS
BUYING BEEF AND POULTRY AND
DAIRY FOR FIRST TIME IN IS A
YEARS.
YEARS. EVERY TIME THE PRESIDENT IS TOLD
YOU CAN’T DO THAT IT WILL NEVER
HAPPEN, WHAT A MISTAKE YOU’LL BE
MAKING, PULLING OUT OF THE PARIS
ACCORDS, GOING OVER TO SINGAPORE
AND TRYING TO GET
DENUCLEARIZATION OF THE KOREAN
PENINSULA.
PENINSULA. REALLY KEEPING THE PROMISE OF
FIVE PRESIDENTS TO MOVE THE
CAPITAL -- EXCUSE ME, RECOGNIZE
JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF
ISRAEL AND MOVE OUR U.S. EMBASSY
THERE HE KEEPS THE PROMISES AND
PEOPLE SAY DON’T DO IT, IT WILL
BE A DISASTER.
THIS WILL PLAY OUT OVER TIME.
BUT HE’S TIRED OF THE AMERICAN
WORKERS GETTING SCREWED.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP ON FRIDAY
SAID THE REAL FBI, THOSE GUYS
LOVE ME.
LOVE ME. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
WHAT’S THE REAL FBI?
>> THE RANK AND FILE -- IT CEASE
SO DISTURBING TO EVERYONE WHEN
YOU SEE THE COMMENTS BEING MADE
IN TEXT MESSAGES.
ON SEPTEMBER 9th, THE SAME DAY
THAT HILLARY CLINTON WOULD GO ON
TO REFER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP’S
SUPPORTERS AS IRREDEEMABLE AND
DEPLORABLE, THE SAME DAY AN FBI
AGENT ACCORDING TO THE IG REPORT
REFERRED TO TRUMP’S SUPPORTERS
IN IOWA -- EXCUSE ME, OHIO AS
RETARDED.
RETARDED. ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?
WHO IS THAT PERSON?
DOES THAT PERSON STILL WORK AT
THE FBI?
THE FBI? ARE THEY STILL GETTING
GOVERNMENT RESOURCES?
GOVERNMENT RESOURCES? DO THEY HAVE HIS TOP SECRET --
>> ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE
FACT THAT THE NEW YORK FBI STAFF
WAS LEAKING STUFF TO DEVIN NUNES
AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON?
WHAT IS GOING ON IF -- I
UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE
AN ISSUE OF THAT.
THAT NEW YORK FBI OFFICE LOOKS
LIKE IT’S LEAKING LIKE A SIEVE.
>> APPARENTLY IN EXCHANGE FOR
SOME LEAKS THAT FBI OFFICIALS
WERE TAKING GIFTS FROM
JOURNALISTS.
JOURNALISTS. AND YOU SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED
TOO.
TOO. I’M SURE YOU ARE.
THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING OFFERED
MEALS AND TICKETS TO GAMES AND
THINGS OF REAL VALUE.
WHAT WERE THEY GETTING IN
EXCHANGE?
EXCHANGE? A NEW FRIEND?
OR SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE A SOURCE
FOR THEM?
FOR THEM? IT’S VERY DISCONCERTING.
THERE ARE MANY CONCERTING THINGS
IN THE REPORT.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE RUNNING AROUND
CHERRY PICKING IT ACCORDING TO
THEIR OWN POLITICAL POINT OF
VIEW.
VIEW. WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, CHUCK,
IS THAT EVERYBODY TAKE THE TIME
TO REALLY DIGEST 568 PAGES.
ALTHOUGH PEOPLE SAY THAT OH, THE
ACTIONS WEREN’T BIASED.
THE PEOPLE CERTAINLY WERE BIASED
AT THE TIPPY TOP.
JAMES COMEY GOT A HERO’S WELCOME
FOR A SILLY BOOK ABOUT
LEADERSHIP, MORALITY AND YOU
HAVE THE IG REPORT COMING TO THE
SAME CONCLUSION, HE WAS INSUB
ORDINARY NOT AND OUTSIDE THE
CHAIN OF COMMAND.
>> IF THE PRESIDENT HAD NEVER
UTTERED THE WORD RUSSIA TO
LESTER HOLT, THEN HE WOULD