>> a teenager in military gear opened fire with a rifle at a supermarket in buffalo new york.
The shooting has officials calling it a hate crime and racially motivated
violent extremism. The 18 year old did livestream the attack and he did kill 10
people and wounded three others before surrendering to the police on Saturday afternoon.
Police say the 18 year old who was white was wearing body armor and military style clothing
when he pulled Up and started shooting at a tops friendly market at about 2:30 p m.
Again, the attack was streamed via camera fixed to the man's helmet. The Gunman shot four people
outside the store three fatally said Buffalo Police Commissioner Joseph Grimaglia inside the
store security guard, Aaron Salter, a retired Buffalo police officer fired multiple shots.
A bullet hit the gunman's bullet proof armor. It had no effect from Mongolia said. The gunman then
killed the guard, the commissioner said, and then stalked through the store shooting other victims.
Obviously this is one other, just one of the many other mass shootings we've had here is a photo
of the security guard, who actually was the one we were speaking of who died trying to stop this.
This mass shooter who used to be a police officer himself was big in the community. In fact,
a number of people whose names all haven't been released yet, but who were shopping on
a Saturday. There was a woman in her mid seventies who would regularly run a food pantry in buffalo
and remember that tops was a, primarily in a black neighborhood, primarily in a black neighborhood.
And was actually fought for and won, for that neighborhood because of how
our food justice system is horribly unjust and our food system is unjust.
They wanted, a new supermarket. And so this was the result of actually
some pretty powerful organizing in that community and this racist gunman knew it.
So if there was any doubts as to whether it was racially motivated,
there's a manifesto, but there's also some concrete things. So,
I just wanted to draw your attention to a point of the livestream video. We will not show it, but
at one the gunman trained his weapon on a white person cowering behind a checkout counter, but
says sorry and doesn't shoot as seen in portions of the livestream video circulating online.
And before I continue on this, I just wanted to get your initial thoughts on
what again has happened in our country. Well, I mean, I like that you used the word again
and that's really a key word here because there is an effort every time there is a shooting that
is racially motivated or, targeted towards Muslim individuals or Jewish individuals in the country.
There is this effort to provide cover to essentially refer to that shooting or that
shooter as a lone wolf. But the fact of the matter is this country has a long history
of white paranoia that manifests in incredibly extreme violent acts
and for the longest time, I think the American people kind of had their head
in the sand about the reality of the situation And his 180 page Manifesto.
Look, I know there's debate about this, but I actually think it's important for people to
find the manifesto and read it for themselves. Because if you're just relying on partisan
media narratives about what the manifesto says, you might fall victim to the
disinformation that's being pushed out by people like Glenn Greenwald for instance.
And when you read that manifesto, there is absolutely no mistake about it. It is
100% racially motivated. And he is genuinely concerned about so called white genocide in
America. And we have people in our media, actual prominent republican politicians
who spew that garbage on a regular basis. And it's terrifying because
innocent people get targeted, innocent people get killed.
And what's really shocking to me about all of it right aside from the heinous nature of it,
is this 18 year old shooter was radicalized in such a short period of time through online
message boards like four Chan and stuff like that. And it was his extreme board Nous,
he says in his manifesto in the beginning of 2020 as a result of the COVID shutdowns
that made him like kind of go through this rabbit hole of right wing conspiracy theories.
And that radicalized him and motivated him to carry out one of the most
gruesome tragic acts of violence in this country. >> I wanted to actually just double down on that
and go to author Joma Luo who wrote this on Instagram that I think really underlines
even what this heinous mass shooter said himself about why he became radicalized.
And she writes, I don't know how many different ways I can express, how it feels to know that
this country will always offer up the violent destruction of our lives to young white men,
angry at their lack of purpose and power. We will never be safe until white manhood
is defined by something other than the quest for domination over others.
And if that doesn't give you chills man, I don't know what will, it hits really hard.
And obviously if you are black or Latino or Muslim in this country I think
or Asian American as we will see, I think it hits extra hard and, and this
really resonates and, and the ways that people of color are often told to make themselves
small and agreeable in order to really not scare white people.
Because look at what happens. And so I just anna,
did the Lord's work and or the devil's work of reading that manifesto, but I want to bring your
attention to a couple of parts. So you don't just take it from her. So this documented the
document circulated widely online outlines this guy's, I don't love saying mass shooters names.
I'm gonna skip it racist, anti immigrant and anti Semitic beliefs among them was a desire to drive
all people not of European descent from the United States. The documents seem to draw inspiration
from the gunman who killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch New Zealand in 2019.
This obviously let's skip to, graphic seven. The manifesto includes dozens of pages of anti
Semitic racist memes, repeatedly citing the great replacement conspiracy theory
frequently pushed by white supremacists, which falsely claims white people are being replaced
in America as part of an elaborate Jewish conspiracy theory. Other memes used tropes
and discredited data to denigrate the intelligence of non white people and the manifesto, which has
not been modified since it was posted on Thursday includes elaborate details of that plan shooting.
The document claims the suspect chose buffalo because it was a city with the highest number of
black people in his vicinity. And this, we've seen this a lot people go to like the first
urban center, right, the first place where they seek a concentration of black people
and it's happened a number of times in New York city as well.
But I just want to like underscore the great replacement theory because I think
it is important to understand, to not shy away from what that bogus theory actually
is. This idea and we'll find this very funny on the show and anyone who's watching,
because of the way we cover immigration and democrats.
This idea that democrats are just letting in tons of immigrants, and then they're giving them
citizenship and you did just like a badge boom citizenship and then they just go register them
to vote and then they vote. Yeah, tell that to the 11 million undocumented people in this country
who have been here for decades, still waiting to have some sort of political representation.
They're in no world, are democrats trying or successfully registering voters
to vote democrat. And the second point on that is
why wouldn't republicans if they believe that immigrants are pouring across the border in
hordes and being legalized? Why wouldn't they try to recruit them to vote for republicans?
Because you know, they know they're racist. So
anyway, reactions on that? >> Well, yeah, you make such a
great point about like, well why is it just the democrats who would want their vote or
try to persuade them to vote for, you know what I'm like republicans. But the truth is
there are white people in America who have been convinced that once they become the minority
people of color and primarily black individuals will treat them the way they have treated and
disenfranchised and, in our nation's history of course brutalized African Americans.
And so that's where the fear really stems from. And there's one other angle that I wanted to just
quickly mention, which is, you know, this shooting happened pretty soon after we found out about
the Supreme Court's leaked a draft opinion on reversing roe v wade, which they're poised to do.
And I noticed that in the manifesto and I'm gonna read directly from it because I think this shows
you both the depravity, the just like the brutal, horrific nature of this guy's ideology and those
who also subscribe to it. And also like the issue of abortion and being able to have Children.
And all of that. He writes, he justifies killing
Children of color. And specifically says Children of replacers do not stay Children.
They become adults and reproduce, creating more replaces to replace your people. They grow up
and vote against your people's own wishes for interests of their own people and identity.
They grow up and take the potential homes of your people for themselves.
They occupy positions of power, remove wealth and destroy social trust. That's
that's directly from his manifesto. So I've been thinking a lot about how the anti choice movement
is obsessed with like repopulating the country with white babies.
And I was like, okay, but if we ban reproductive rights for women, it's not just going to impact
white women. It's gonna impact women of color as well. And in fact more so because they tend
to be overrepresented in disadvantaged parts of the country, lower socioeconomic status,
but in his mind, what they what they need to do is essentially deport everyone who's not white.
And also, I mean as you can see he carried it out himself murdered anyone who might try to
resist that. And then essentially forced white women in America to repopulate the country with
white people with white babies. That is what the plan is. It all kind of comes together.
So when you hear all of the hypocrisy in regard to, we're just trying to protect human lives.
It's not really about protecting human lives. When it comes to the anti choice movement.
There is a racial component to it as well that I think
plays into these insane paranoid conspiracy theories, right?
>> Which is funny because you're like, well if your goal was to create a white ethno state,
obviously you would be for reproductive rights would before people doing family planning saying
I've had two Children. I think I'm good. Yeah, I've got a I got a right to terminate a pregnancy.
Like that would actually be your ideology, but it's not. And I think really interesting enough
on the flip side of this, racism is Samuel Alito himself, the Supreme Court justice who in his
leaked draft of his opinion stated that basically, because so many black and
brown people and women in America are have Ben exercising their right to an abortion.
That actually it's like a form of eugenics because there, and we should be protecting black and brown
babies. You don't care at all. Stop it. You know, that's ridiculous. It's just a way to
criminalize black people even more and black women and Latino women and, and we know that.
But, I just keep coming back to 18. Like I get it. I get like, I don't know maybe and
we're going to talk about tucker Carlson in a little bit, but it doesn't really matter because
the same talking points are being parroted in the, in mainstream news as they are on fortune.
It's just sort of this feedback loop. But I still keep on coming back to like,
I think there's a lot of me that wants to be like, well 18. That's just a bad seed. But no, no. This
is an ideology. Talk about grooming. This is something that was a sludge that was fed to him.
And I think Ijoma is completely correct in saying, why do we have to constantly be
coddling the fears of young white men? And yet here we are. And I think without anything else
to latch onto. We are all at the mercy and without being able to do two things.
One, never talk about gun control, let alone get it or to never talk about racism. So we're
just ping ponging between these complete dead ends politically in this country
and the result is people of color are murdered. >> Yeah, you're absolutely right about that.
>> Look at the end of the day, what motivated this was 100% racism and racist paranoia.
But what stood out to me was how quickly he was radicalized and the conditions
under which young men and their, I don't know, angst for lack of a better word gets exploited
to radicalize them. So it's not just like, it's just a bad seed. No,
there is, there is a culture at play that the American government has been ignoring.
They've had their head in the sand for quite some time. I mean, even the FBI of all government
agencies have been warning about right wing extremism in America for for quite some time now.
And when like our elected lawmakers are engaging in like denialism to the point where the FBI
looks good on domestic terror threats, it just really blows my mind absolutely.
>> And it also scares me into into the idea that once they do get finally wise to it, they'll just
funnel way more money only into the FB.I when there's so many other strategies and take it
from the Muslim American community that's been completely demonized by entities like the FBI.
Who understand like if you actually want to stop extremism, it is not by creating sting
operations. It's not by setting people up, and all these other militarized ways of rooting it out