>> today, it was revealed that the biden administration is going to be suggesting
full sovereign immunity for the head of Saudi Arabia,
Mohammed bin Salman in a civil case that's being pursued over MBS's brutal
assassination of the journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.
There's a government filing released just in the last day that says,
the United States government has expressed grave concerns regarding Jamal Khashoggi's
horrific killing and has raised these concerns publicly and
with the most senior levels of the Saudi government.
However, the doctrine of head of state immunity is well-established and
customary international law and has been consistently recognized in longstanding
executive branch practice as a status based determination that does not
reflect a judgment on the underlying conduct at issue in the litigation.
So they're going to suggest that the case go away and
it's looking like that suggestion might result in the case going away, but
they're not actually saying he didn't do it.
They're just once again, helping to work to make
sure that a powerful lead suffers no consequences for his actions.
And many people are predicting that the administration doing this could result in
this case, dissipating.
What do you all think?
>> Yeah, well, the doctrine is true,
whether it's been applied evenly is a different matter.
And so the issue here is Biden saying one thing and
doing another which has happened a lot, let's be honest and he's a politician.
An American politicians do this nonstop.
So when he was running, he was huffing and puffing about, my God, I'm gonna
hold Mohammed bin Salman accountable, etc., and then he gets into office.
If it was just this, I'd actually totally cut him a break and
say, hey, look, it is an actual doctrine, right?
But he went and kissed MBS's ring, Biden did and he got nothing for it.
And the Saudis slapped him across the face and raised the price of oil, anyway.
And the Saudis are basically declared that they love Republicans and they prefer.
I mean, think about it.
They are massive right wingers within Saudi Arabia.
And so they love our right wingers here in America and they prefer them.
So if you're gonna do this though, I would then try to hold them
accountable in other ways, but Biden hasn't done that either.
>> Yeah, I think I heard Barack Obama recently speak
about the the nuclear deal with Iran.
And he said at that time when they were doing the nuclear deal, they were trying
to get the deal done, so that they would stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon and
then they were gonna go and deal with the human rights issues.
But Obama in this podcast he did recently said, as America, if we really want
to be known as the country who is concerned with human rights,
we really need to put that front and center in a lot of our foreign policy.
And this falls under that as well which is if we really wanna talk the talk and
walk the walk, we got to kind of step up and make that decision.
And we live in a world now with social media where you can't have human rights
violations and hide, and get away with it.
So even if other governments are letting other governments off, the people.
And so at some point, I think a government like America, a developed
country is gonna need to realize that you can't just let people off.
And I think that the world is gonna think, okay, then they must be innocent.
>> I wanna give you just a response to this announcement by one of the heads of
the executive director of Dawn.
This is a pro-democracy advocacy group that was set up by Khashoggi before he
died says, it's beyond ironic that President Biden has single-handedly
assured Mohammed bin Salman can escape accountability when it was President biden
who promised the American people he would do everything to hold him accountable.
Not even the Trump administration did this.
>> Yeah, and so I mean, look, it's Biden's weakness.
So again, this legal doctrine is real and there's a good reason for it.
But at the same time,
here's how I would believe Biden that he's just upholding the law, right?
If he said, Mohammed bin Salman, you said, look, the fundamental deal
between Saudi Arabia and America is you give us cheap oil, we give you security.
Without our security, you'll get run over in 19 days, you'll be gone, okay?
Everybody knows that, whether it's hobbies internally or it's anyone externally.
And remember when Saddam Hussein went into Kuwait,
the reason we attack back is because he was then gonna go into Saudi Arabia and
Saudi Arabian royalty invested heavily and depends.
And then was like, please America help us, right?
So okay, well, then you're not giving us the oil in the way that you promised and
you're murdering columnist.
Okay, yeah, you have sovereign immunity here.
You don't have to do this lawsuit, but guess what?
We just pulled your security.
We're not giving you a single weapons deal anymore.
We're gonna make sure that you end that war in Yemen where
your brutalize the people of Yemen and we're withdrawing all
of our security apparatus from Saudi Arabia, and good luck.
You know what would happen?
We get lower oil in two goddamn days, but
you need a leader with some sort of strength.
By the way, Trump didn't do it, either.
Trump went over and kissed his ass 17 times and you know I made up that number,
but he not only went over there and was so did royalty.
He held a weirdo globe with them.
And then after the murder, he was like, no, no, no, no, no,
you can't do that without the mob into something and you know why?
He's like, they buy my properties for 30, $40 million.
Am I supposed to not like them?
So for Trump, it was personal corruption.
For Biden, it's as usual pathetic weakness.
All right, we gotta go.
>> By the way, the globe that was that was entertainment.
So thank you for bringing that image back when they were all hand around.
Yeah, I still don't know what that was.
That was amazing.