>>> A BIG BREAK TODAY FOR SOME
AMERICAN CONSUMERS WITH A TASTE
FOR FRENCH WINE AND OTHER
SPECIALTIES.
THE PRESIDENT AND EUROPEAN
LEADERS TODAY SUSPENDED A
17-YEAR TRADE WAR TO AIR
SUBSIDIES AGREEING TO WORK
TOGETHER TOWARDS A COMMON RIVAL,
CHINA.
THIS AFTER IT WAS WARNED THAT
CHINA IS A MILITARY THREAT TO
THE ALLIANCE.
NATO HAS BEEN CRITICAL OF
BEIJING.
JOINING ME NOW IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN
OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN
RELATIONS AND IS ALSO THE AUTHOR
OF THE BOOK "THE WORLD."
AND HER BOOK IS A STORY OF
REBELLION, COURAGE AND JUSTICE.
RICHARD, FIRST TO YOU.
THE NATO LEADERS SIGNALING A
MAJOR SHIFT WHEN IT COMES TO
CHINAS MILITARY MIGHT.
IS THIS JUST RHETORIC OR
SOMETHING THAT COULD BECOME
SOMETHING REAL AT THE CORE OF
NATOS MISSION.
>> I THINK ITS MORE RHETORIC.
NATO DOESNT HAVE THE
CAPABILITIES TO BE A FACTOR IN
THE PACIFIC.
WHAT NATO COULD DO IS TAKE ON A
LARGE ROLE OF THE EUROPEAN
CONTINENT WHICH COULD FREE UP
THE UNITED STATES.
AND THE GOVERNMENT WHO HATS
WORKED WITH US IN COMING UP WITH
A RESTRICTIVE TRANSFER POLICY.
IF WE CAN AGREE HOW TO DEAL WITH
CHINA ECONOMICALLY, THE NATO
MEMBERS OF EUROPE PLAY A LARGER
ROLE AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE
AN IDEAL OUTCOME.
>> RICHARD, WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT PUTIN AND THE RUSSIANS.
YOU HAVE HAD SO MUCH EXPERIENCE
OF PUTIN, PARTICULARLY UNDER
BUSH.
>> I THINK THE LESS SAID IN
PUBLIC THE BETTER.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO CRITICIZE
HIM FOR DOING THE MEETING.
I THINK HE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.
BUT WE DONT WANT TO GET INTO A
PUBLIC MATCH WITH PUTIN.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO SETTLE
THE RELATIONSHIP, CREATE
SOMETHING OF A FLOOR SO, AGAIN,
THE UNITED STATES CAN FOCUS MORE
ON DEALING WITH CHINA WHICH IS A
RISING AND MORE COMPLICATED
THREAT.
THERE IS NOT A LOT OF UPSIDE
HERE.
THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL
DOWNSIDE.
I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS CAN
THE PRESIDENT SIGNAL IF HE WERE
GOING TO DO THINGS, THIS WOULD
BE THE PRICE TO PAY.
HE DOESNT WANT TO DO IT.
ITS NOT IN EITHER COUNTRYS
BENEFIT.
I THINK HE JUST WANTS TO SETTLE
THING.
>> MUCH HAS BEEN SAID BACK HOME
ABOUT NOT HAVING A JOINT PRESS
CONFERENCE.
THE PRESIDENT SAID HE DIDNT
WANT TO COMPETE TO SEE WHO WAS
THE BETTER SHOWMAN. BY THE WAY, WE ARE ON LAKE
BY THE WAY, WE ARE ON LAKE
GENEVA AND THERE ARE FERRIS Y FE
RIES.
>> WITH PUTIN, YOU WILL END UP
IN THE MUD.
I THINK TRANSFER OF
MISCALCULATION.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR
FIREWORKS.
LOOKING TO CALM THINGS.
JOE BIDEN WANTS TO FOCUS AT HOME
ON HIS DOMESTIC AGENDA.
THE BEST THING IS CALM THIS DOWN SOMEWHAT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, RICHARD
HAASE.
>> AND AFTER A TOUCHY
RELATIONSHIP, THE POSSIBILITY
THAT TURKEY IS GOING TO STAY
BEHIND AFTER NATO MEMBERS LEAVE
AND WOULD HELP SECURE KABUL.
YOU SPENT MANY YEARS IN
AFGHANISTAN.
HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT?
>> IT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT WHAT COMES NEXT?
IT IS IMPORTANT IN THIS MOMENT
TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT
THE RELATIONSHIP.
WE HAVE MOVED ON FROM THE BUDDY
FILM OF THE TRUMP ERA.
THEY HAVE A CLEAR AREA THEY WILL
DISAGREET AND AREAS THEY CAN
WORK TOGETHER, INCLUDING
AFGHANISTAN.
>> AS YOU KNOW, TURKEY IS
COMPLICATED, FIRST AS A NATO
MEMBER, IT HAS ANGERED THE
ALLIES BY BUYING RUSSIAN SURFACE
TO AIR MISSILES.
MILLIONS OF SYRIAN REFUGEES HAVE
BEEN DISPLACED BY SYRIAN AND
ASAAD AIR STRIKES.
HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH ALL OF
THESE COMPLICATIONS?
>> IT IS COMPLICATED.
THE UNITED STATES HAS WORKED TO
REAPPORTION THE RELATIONSHIP.
THERE ARE AREAS THEY CAN WORK
TOGETHER.
AFGHANISTAN IS ONE.
AND NORTHWESTERN SYRIA AND ITALY
IS ANOTHER.
THEY MAY BE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE
OF THE SYRIAN CONFLICT, BUT
THERE IS WAY TO COOPERATE
INCLUDING GETTING HUMANITARIAN
AID IN.
THEY ARE SEEKING TO WORK
TOGETHER ON AREAS WHERE THEY CAN
WHILE MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THE
FACT IT TOOK BIDEN 90 DAYS TO
CALL, THE FACT THAT THE GENOCIDE
WAS RECOGNIZED UNDER BIDEN.
>> INDEED.
THEY HAD A VERY EDGY MEETING
WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT AND
EVERYONE WAS BLAMING AMERICA