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uh... michael interviewed outline call they discussed are the n_s_a_ are was so
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an african wishes talk a little more about that the man himself
uh... who who was leaked this information to augment greenwald
hydrogen out yesterday why he called the guardian he wanted to act on that public
and that the korean movies the twelve minute video with him which i or jaw a
check-out are some very interesting stuff
uh... as my quickly discuss he's a twenty nine-year-old names and what
snowed in
he's a former technical assistant for the c_i_a_ ont he didn't finish high
school but he received as g_d_ uh... any join the army in two thousand three
and was discharged after breaking his leg during a training exercise i during
that time he started working a security guard an a an essay facility and then
from there he began to work at hot at the c_i_a_ in the in nineteen tele jan's
she said that is during this time that he started to become disillusioned with
that the government
in two thousand eight he voted for a third party candidate unspecified bill
but he did say that he did not leak this information that he had
that he wanted to leak
in two thousand eight because nobody was coming in
he said he had hoped
that'll bottle is gonna rain this type of stuff that was happening in
she did not think obama was going abroad in the stuff
so like you did i mean for all the au bon apologies out there saying this
guy's got a gotta play against obama he's must be something that just hate so
bombings out for obama
i mean i i don't think that you can argue that what he said himself
he couldn't be just a few years ago but wanted to give obama a chance
um...
there's no evidence of that whatsoever
yeah hugely donated to ron paul twenty twelve on the other detail extra adam
peres vivo dot said forget it throw away the key
i mean it's good that maybe ron paul's rhetoric influenced him somewhat but
i mean it at the same time ron paul that's not true roadside make from party
something better that he is
he's dot blot did he just started working i think for a few months has
been working for up private a defense contractor
it's a firm called booz allen they grew out of hamilton downtown will to do a
lot of stuff
speak in their path there could be racks and working with the n_s_a_ right that's
i think that that was the capacity that i believe nine eight percent of their
revenue comes from government contracts i believe they make six billion dollars
for the government
they are really big government contractor they do consulting and the
fed stuff uh... so at least noting gave up this job yet you get a girlfriend he
was living in a while you do this booz allen job
he said he was making two hundred thousand dollars a year
he said look hot believe it was two weeks ago or one with one or two weeks
ago
he told his employer that you need to take time off
and he was he said he'd be gone for two weeks or something something like that
of the things that you know and then and then he told his girlfriend
that you had to go away ditto anymore information but he said she was a
specific suspicious
for any reason because
government contractor and he said this is in the first time he's at teller he
was leaving for the party formation
and uh...
he said he went to hong kong
but he has no intention of hiding because he's in thing he's doing
anything wrong
um...
you're listening to save and behind conlow do i have two things to say about
him uh...
one is i'd obviously people learn more about him
uh...
and what time it takes a toll utah's home time because it will
they have a spirited commitment to free speech and the right of political
dissapear baths dodges blue ameet i don't know where i thought it was all
very false i mean it it is definitely a place where you could see
certain parties in hong kong contract your phones in public colors of the hong
kong it's debate their a sovereign and they're not consider sovereign nation
uh... several by china alternately it's one but is it something but but like it
but it's sort of separate in terms of their legal system
he did not sit that system is one country two systems but the thing silent
for example in china you can't you can go about
you know uh... celebrating the remembrance of tiananmen square every
year brand hong kong they do
and in a big event and that they can do that hong kong
there's obviously more civil liberties in hong kong and china that doesn't mean
the hong kong has more civil liberties in united states or western europe might
help i think i think they were talking in terms of people saying well
hunterdyess china when he is sort of but wow although if people are saying a hong
kong is exactly like
the rest of mainland china that's false but the thing i would say that's that's
here's my questions about him
i think that the first wave of disclosures that i had to do with an
essay and prism
reunion port
i don't think that can be overstated and i'm i'm actually concerned that people
might end up
ike no ring them frankly and is not taking them seriously but i think these
things are really big deal and i think even the while of a professor paul said
even just about
the very premise of this type of approach to counter terrorism ought even
it's africa c is really questionable
but then
this guy said in the weeks
this cyber warfare list
uh... to greenwald as well that's to me
is it completely different type of week now i don't want to get into the
argument about what i don't think this guy's radio working for lots
alcohol in spain
what i'm saying is this this is notes others there's one thing to just table
side
is the cyber warfare leaks like starts up michael saying is that they savor the
verizon phone call the and the prism week which is the one where
google yahoo in these other tech trends are working hand-in-hand with picking
through the government gets the information they need
he says those leaks are are fine the governor of the public should know about
that either way they are not only fine they're essentials emily positive in her
role it whistleblower however however this cyber warfare leak what was
actually it leaked
first of all money that is in any way surprising it's barely even
controversial frankly i would much prefer
uh... cyber approach to iran uh... than actual war if it's true of course yes
chinese engage in a regular lead this is part of national security strategy like
it or not there is nothing in their that's shocking or unexpected or
dangerous or in any way affective of american citizens