>> It has been 25 years since
Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson
was murdered and oj Simpson
arrested and found not guilty.
>> Kim Goldman posted a new
podcast confronting oj Simpson.
Interviews with all the key
players.
Very nice to meet you.
>> That still has to be
difficult to see here and
relive, right?
>> Yes.
It is.
I realize I have relationships
with most of these people and we
never sat and had conversations
with that specifically because
it is trying to build
relationships outside of all
that so it was interesting for
me to hear their take 25 years
later and questions coming from
me which is different than it is
from you.
That was both hard and inspiring
and hopeful and angry.
We have been talking about this
a lot on our show of the 25th
anniversary of this being here
and the middle of all of this,
oj Simpson is now on Twitter.
>> Lucky us.
Smoo
>> When you saw that and read
that and view that, what was
your thoughts?
>> It was jarring.
It felt like that was my space,
not mine specifically, he's able
to have so much access on
television and he pops up
everywhere and for some reason
that felt safe or Twitter, I
don't know why, when it popped
up, it felt like an invasion and
the first comment was he's
getting even to do.
That scared me a little bit.
I do enjoy reading the comments
that are not very flattering.
It gives me some joy.
>> You talk about getting even.
You put out an invitation to
come see you on the podcast,
what was your response to that?
>> He talks about wanting to set
the record straight and get some
even to do, I welcome him to
come on the podcast with me.
>> When he was in prison, you
were going to go visit him, what
happened there?
>> I wrote him a handful of
letters trying to soften him.
We talked about what it would
look like and he asked me to
sign a non-disclosure agreement
which I refused to do.
>> The conversation ended.
And bound not to be able to talk
ability.
>>
About.
>> That time was important for
me because I thought it would be
healthy for my growth and
recovery and talking about it
and they did not want me to be
able to do that.
>> What would you have said to
him face-to-face?
>> I don't know if there is
words to be exchanged.
It is more of me seeing H iim
behind bars and me being able to
walk out of the room.
I felt there would be some
strengths that I can gain in
that.
I don't know if there are words
that need to be said.
I don't have questions for him
and I don't think he would say
anything that would make a
difference to me.
I don't know.
>> In all of this.
I feel like the attention goes
to oj and some of it goes to
Nicole.
Also, is Ron and I know that
he's very special to you.
What would you want people to
know about him?
>> My brother, my best friend we
are two and a half years apart,
I was his side kick, he had me
everywhere and my hands around
we were very tight and just
raised by my dad so the three of
us are incredibly close.
I looked up to him tremendously.
Who my brother was the last
couple of minutes of his life
tells me who you need to know
about him.
He ran to help a friend and he
lost his life over it.
To me that's heroic.
It was as selfless act, I am
proud of him for that but that
hurts, too.
>> How are you doing today?
>> I am doing all right.
I run a non-profitable
organization, I counsel
teenagers.
I am a mom to a 15-year-old and
I have my own podcast.
I advocate for victims and
survivors.
I am doing okay.
>> What do most don't know about
the family that goes onto mourn
the loss.
>> We are not render helpless
and we are not left in a fetal
position on the floor, we may
for a little bit but we find
strength some where to get up
and face everyday and we fight
and we are allowed and we mass
and we can make change.
There are a lot of us out there
trying to make a difference for
those of us who inevitably
follow our footsteps.
Victim is a negative word but
that's what we are and we are
using something.
>> What do you want to
accomplish with this podcast?
I want people to see a different
perspective on something they
think they know all too much
about.
There is a lot of fictionallize
stuff and a lot of conspiracy
theory and confessions and
ridiculousness.
I want people to hear from folks
that are inside the courtroom
that put on the case that we are
living day in and day out of
what we are thinking and how we
are fearing in the after math
because I think we forget that.
>> Were you angry?
Were you mad at them?
>> Martian Chris were the only
ones fighting for my brother and
Nicole.
Given the circumstances they
were in, they did the best they
they have mountain of evidence
to put on.
I don't know if it would been a
different outcome had it been
for everybody else.
>> Interesting, you won't refer
to him as oj but only the
killer?
>>>
>> Yeah.
>> It is too casual to call him
by his first name.
He's not my friend and he's a
murder and a killer.
>> You believe that even with
the verdict that he's the
>> Just because he's acquitted,
does not mean.
Not guilty does not mean
innocent.
We have a civil jury that found
him responsible for ron and nicole's
death.
>> If you want to hear more from
Kim, check out her podcast,
"Confronting oj Simpson."