Not Attached to Any Experience
Satsang with Mooji
The Abode of the Message Albany, NY, USA, November 2007
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Is what you're experiencing now a state which comes and goes?
However enjoyable it may be, don't hold onto it.
Remain as the witness even of that.
[silence]
Is this an artificial state?
Because I'm not throwing magic powder in your face;
this must be your own seeing.
Are you under a spell?
Can you rely upon your own seeing?
Where has this seeing, this introspecting brought you?
What is revealed through your own looking?
Is this merely a state that has been induced artificially,
so that the further you move away from here, the weaker the influence?
You must check it out.
Many have come to that place of no-mind, beyond doubt,
have experienced it, irrefutably. OK?
But almost all of them report an 'And then ...' report.
We picked up this in New York. When we were there we talked about this.
Some will tell you, 'Yes, I had this experience before.
It was perfect, I was walking through the Red Sea, all through my life,
for about two weeks. And then ... something ...'
So I became very interested in the 'And then ...' moments.
What is the 'And then ...' moment?
What causes this 'And then ...'?
So we talked a bit about it, and said that if something comes and goes,
by nature that's its way, it comes and goes, as an experience.
All experiences happen in time, they have a beginning and an end.
Can you be that? Or are you not the witness of that?
You may have experienced that state of no-mind,
but mind was there saying,'Yes, I like this'. [laughter]
If there is an experiencer, the experience will not last.
Some things are meant only to show themselves for a moment,
they've done their work.
If you imagine, in the Bible, there is one story,
a part where Jesus walked up on the mountain, and he told his disciples,
'You go and pray over there, keep quiet. I'm just going over here'.
And so one of them woke up to this bright light,
and they saw Jesus talking with the prophets Elijah and Moses,
in blazing light.
Then that was over.
Now, can you imagine if you met the great prophet Krishna,
Lord Christ, prophet Muhammad, you're talking together;
then it's finished.
Can you imagine Jesus going back saying,
'Father, can I have another taste of that experience?'
It was finished, it did its job.
Some things happen, they have done their work
and they recede into silence again.
Don't go hunting for repeats.
That in which these occurrences happen, is still here;
that perfect awareness.
So don't become attached to any experience,
if experience means what is shown now,
some flavour, some taste; it comes and goes.
You are the tasteless taste that neither comes nor goes.
You are not to use your mind to imagine that.
You must recognise it by some other power.
It's immediate. There are no gaps and there is no journey to make.
Can you be apart from that awareness Self?
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