Democrats are slowly starting to raise the alarm bells about president Biden's chances in 2024
and they desperately want someone else to run. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins joins me to talk
about this and many other issues. You followed, I mean, I think when I, when I start looking at
everything you were the first person I read or heard that started talking about, really?
I mean, you know, is this what we want? Now, now the New York Times
and Washington Post and some of the mainstream kind of things that have always been there for
him, they're starting to say, ah, maybe not. Yeah. I mean, look, you and I had actually
talked a couple weeks ago, there was a report that there were some whispers, you know, in back rooms,
oh, we don't want Biden. But now those whispers are turning into very loud voices with members of
Congress, strategists, party donors and regular voters too, saying, this guy's not gonna win in
2024. He's gonna bring us all down. We have to do something. And, and when you think about it too,
you've got two years, I mean, less than two years, really, to find a good replacement.
Exactly. And, and the clock's ticking.
Well, we should have started already. He needs to do what's best for the country.
He needs to announce and say, I'm not going to run. He needs to clear the field and say,
I'm not going to run because I'm gonna be 82 years old when I run and I'm gonna be 82, 86
if I finish my second term. It's just the right thing to do. So you have, you have the Democrats
now finally venting their frustration. They can't ignore it anymore. The Democrats that were so
horrified to say anything critical because they were afraid it was gonna hurt the Democratic
party. The Democratic party is already hurt. Yeah.
I mean, I mean, let's get, let's get. So, so now what we have is we have
the public, maybe that's driving the train. They're ignoring what Washington thinks and
they're saying, maybe the public is driving the train and New York Times is reacting to it,
Washington Post, all the big newspapers that with real journalism reacting to it.
Well, and another thing too is you gotta look at what's happening over on the Republican side.
Sure, Trump is still at the top, but there's cracks starting to form. And you have a lot
of Republicans saying, look, we don't want a 78 year old guy who's just gonna be talking
about his bitterness about 2020. So we look at Ron DeSantis, he's younger. You know, he, he
doesn't have the gray hair yet. He's still, you know, a regular looking guy. So they're
flocking to him for the same reasons that Democrats are starting to get upset with Biden.
And Trump needs to do the same thing. Trump needs to say, I'm not gonna run. I'm gonna cause
all this chaos, but I'm not gonna run. I mean, after these hearings, the January 6th, I mean,
there's so much there. I mean, come on. The guy, he just needs to come out and say, look, I'm
gonna step aside. I'm gonna be the person maybe that I can go around and help in the midterms,
but I'm not gonna run. Look, but what, what's happening with with Biden right now is this,
it's, it's fear. It's disappointment. It's, it's resentment to some degree that's festering.
And look, you can't ignore. You've got, you've got the disaster with, with gas prices. You got the
disaster with inflation. You've got his gaffs, you know, his gaffs that are now starting to create
really a question of worldwide power structures. You know, he's saying things that can start
another war. Can start some type of conflict where they shouldn't. So all of this stuff is finally
being talked about, these things I just read are all being talked about in the New York Times.
Yeah. And they're saying,
this is the problem. It's not just physical, it's mental and it is age. You just can't ignore the
fact that he's gonna be 82 years old when he runs. Well, and Biden has a perfect out as well.
You know, he could easily come out right now and say, listen, folks,
my goal was to be your bridge president. You know, we, we had four dark years of Donald Trump and I,
I came along. I wanted to pull us through from that. I'm the bridge. I'm not the vehicle. I'm
not the driving force to take you into the future. I yield that to someone younger. I think somebody
else in the party can come out and continue you on this path that I have put you on. There's very
diplomatic and statesmen like ways to do this. Of course, he
can still be an important part of the party. Right. And he can save face and it also kind
of saves him from having to worry about, again, another election. It, it's a smart thing to do
for him personally and for the party politically. I, I completely agree Farron, and you know, the,
the most troubling criticism is that, look, you had the presidency, you had the House,
you had the Senate and you still couldn't do anything. And they're gonna say, ah,
but Manchin. Ah, but Manchin, You know, really, I mean, no, not, ah, but Manchin.
It takes leadership and the guy just doesn't have the kind respect that gets anything done. And,
and he's gotta come out and say, no, I'm not going to run.
He can't be selfish about this. And nevertheless, today the White House says, yeah, he's gonna run.