Congratulations and such a I blazed through this... part 2 of this series.
Oh, good.
In record time, I think. And what
I love...
Are you okay. I'm so Okay.
What I love is that it's a series about relationships.
This one and your first one I love is with Kate.
Yeah.
These are just two people trying to escape your bad behavior in the past.
Yeah. How did you develop that with Charlotte Charlotte ?
Well,
I mean, it's interesting to hear you say that, actually,
because that is what they are on one level.
Like that is who I play Joe, as when I'm with her because
that's what's interesting to watch.
It's it would be less interesting, interesting to watch somebody who's
completely shut down from his own emotions and unable to do any of it
and is just manipulating somebody the entire time.
I think that that would be quite insufferable.
You have to sort of believe him, you know, So
it's it's it's a relief from typical Joe.
There's something of a more pure friendship
at the heart of their relationship, I think, because
he doesn't start out only lusting after her.
He starts out actually being uninterested.
And then, as does she with him.
And then they sort of find this this union that is already in grief,
which means that they're not having to lie about being basically, like miserable.
Yeah.
Which is not what he's had that
the relationship before has always been that thing in the beginning,
the flirtatious romantic fantasy where it's like, I'm not the sad person.
You hope I'm not.
I'm I'm somebody else, you know?
So they start in a more honest place, kind of for Joe.
So I do like that. Amazing.
And then you've got this other relationship with Ed Speleers' Rhys
He's just trying to pull you back into his murky, murderous world.
And how is that balancing those two sides?
Well, so I also love the scenes with Ed because it's a side of Joe
is the most fun to play, usually for me when he's with another man,
because it doesn't happen a lot, actually.
And usually when he's with another man, he's actually quiet
and he's judging and he's plotting to kill in some manner.
Later, with the few characters where he develops
some kind of meaningful relationship, it's actually very, very interesting and fun
because it puts a mirror up to him and and that's just, you know,
just adds layers like a another another example would be
I always forget their fake names.
48 played by James Scully in season two like that's an iconic
like male intimacy relationship which is so again in the world of Jo
it's like there's something very fun about that. Amazing.
And it's it's fun because Rhys is somewhat worse than Joe, I guess. Yes.
I mean, yes, you could say that.
Yeah, that's true.
More psychopathic. Yeah.
Oh, yes, I.
For obvious reasons, we can say that,
but for some other reasons, we know that it's not entirely true.
Yeah, well, I really interested in playing a villain.
How hard is it to, like, decompress after doing, like,
the horrific things that you do in this series?
I think the decompression is only physical as opposed to emotional or psychological
or spiritual for me, because for me,
I don't take it so seriously that I bring the mindset home.
I don't feel like I'm having to get into another mindset.
It's really more like just what is it?
What's the actual toll on my nervous system of having to express rage
constantly, like at the drop of a hat like action?
That's just the hardest part.
You know, I always lose weight.
Throughout the last half of the season.
I always start to get back pain and I'm tired.
And so then when I'm with my toddler and my 14 year old
and my wife on the weekends, like, that's hard me, you know.
So that's really the extent of what I take home.
I think amazing. Final question.
This series is about books and a love of books,
and this season features my favorite book, which is Dr.
Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Yeah,
I read a little bit of it in season one.
Actually, it is the season in season one with talk show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's a lot more of touching upon it in this season, which excited me a lot.
If you could own a special edition of any book, what would it be?
That's a good question.
Well, as a Baháʼí, like a
like an original manuscript or something written by Baha'u'llah, I would love
short of that.
Something like.
Like a Kurt Vonnegut, you know, like Slaughterhouse Five.
He was my favorite author for a while.
Yeah, something like that.
Maybe. Maybe.
Actually, his like, the one that I've always loved
that is kind of like the one that most people love, I think is Galapagos.
Mm hmm.
Uh, I would love like that.
Like the first one, because.
Amazing. Amazing.
Obviously, Mine's obviously Jekyll and Hyde.
Well, thank you so much for talking with me today.
Thank you. Great. And good luck with the rest of the series.
Appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good day.