>>> NOW TO THE CONSERVATIVE TO
SUPPRESS LESSONS OR RACISM AND
SLAVERY.
HOW SLAVERY AND RACISM CAN BE
TAULGT.
FOX NEWS GOES ALL IN ON THE
ISSUE.
>> A CURRICULUM THAT TEACHES
THEIR KIDS TO HATE THE COUNTRY.
>> THE POLITICAL LEFT IN
PERPETUATING THE MYTH THAT
AMERICA IS A FUNDAMENTALLY
RACIST COUNTRY.
>> FOR A COUNTRYS DISTRESSED
STUDENTS.
>> LAST MONTH, THEY PROMOTE TAX
DOLLARS TO THOSE WHO TRAFFIC THE
POISON.
>> PARTS OF ACT DEM YA ARE
LINING WITH THE RIGHT WING
RHETORIC, AND CASE IN POINT, THE
FIGHT OVER NICOLE HANNAH JONES,
A REZIP YENT OF THE GENIUS
GRANT.
THEY DONT HAND IT OUT TO
EVERYONE, WHOSE 1619 PROJECT
LOOKED AT THE LEGACY OF U.S.
SLAVERY, AND THIS YEAR, HAD A
NIGHT SHARE IN RACE AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA,
USUALLYTENURED JOB.
EXCEPT, THEY DENIED HER TENURE.
THE JOURNALISM DEPARTMENT THAT
WAS HIRING HER.
HE WAS A ACADEMIC BACKGROUND
EVEN THOUGH SHE RECEIVED HER
DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF
NORTH CAROLINA. WHATS REALLY GOING ON HERE?
WHATS REALLY GOING ON HERE?
THE LARGER ISSUE OF DIVERSITY IN ACADEMIA.
THERE ARE 5% OF PROFESSORS THAT
ARE BLACK.
AND NOW AFRAID OF WHAT NICOLE
HANNAH JOINS MIGHT SAY IN THE
CLASSROOM, AND WOULD PREFER TO
BAN POLITICIANS LIKE MITCH
McCONNELL AND THE VOICES OVER ON
THE CRAZY PLACE, FOX.
>> THE ENTIRELY FRAUDULENT 1619
PROJECT HEADED BY NICOLE HANNAH
JONES.
>> THIS HANNAH JONES DISPUTE
LEADS TO A LARGER QUESTION.
WHY WAS A WOMAN WHO DISTORTS
HISTORY EVEN UP FOR A TENURED
POSITION AT ANY UNIVERSITY IN
THE FIRST PLACE?
>> THAT MIGHT BE THE LARGEST NM
OF BLACK PEOPLE THEY HAD ON
THEIR SHOWS.
JOINING ME NOW, JAL ANI COBB,
AND ERIN HANES.
I CANT WAIT TO HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION WITH OATH OF YOU.
AND YOU WROTE ONE OF THE FIRST
PIECES PEOPLE WERE PAYING
ATTENTION ABOUT UNCS BOARD
STEPPING IN AND STOPPING THE
DEPARTMENT TO HAND TENURE TO
HANNAH NICOLE JONES.
YOU SAID THIS IS A LARGE ERS
PART?
>> LET ME STOP YOU THERE.
MY COLLEAGUE WROTE THAT.
IM GLAD WE HAD IT ON OUR SITE
BECAUSE ITS IN THE WHEEL HOUSE
ABOUT WHAT AWAY CARE ABOUT.
LISTEN, I AM BASED IN
PHILADELPHIA WHERE WE LOVE
TELLING THE STORIES ABOUT THE
FRAMERS, THE FOUNDING FATHERS.
WHEN IT COMES TO SLAVERY, WHY
CANT WE MOVE ON?
AND SOMEBODY WHO HAS LONG
COVERED RACE ISSUES, THE
BACKLASH AGAINST TELLING THE
TRUTH, CALL IT DISTORTING
HISTORY, BUT CORRECTING THE
RECORD, THIS IS USUALLY THE
REACTION TO THAT FROM SOME
CORNERS OF THE COUNTRY WHO DO
NOT WANT TO CONFRONT THAT
HISTORY IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND LISTEN, IF JOURNALISM IS
ABOUT AFFLICTING THE
COMFORTABLE, HANNAH JONES HAS
STRUCK THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
ITS STRUCK THE FOLKS AT THE
STATE HOUSE LEVEL TRYING TO BAN
1619 FROM KRIM LUMCURRICULUMS AT
STATE LEVEL AND IT STRUCK THOSE
AT THE NORTH CAROLINA UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM WHO FEEL THAT SOMEBODY
WHO IS OVERQUALIFIED, AND
CREDENTIALS WOULD STACK UP
AGAINST ANYONE TEACHING THE
PROGRAM OF WHICH SHES AN ALUM.
NOW SHIFTING THE GOAL POST AND
CHANGING THE RULES.
>> I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS.
YOU HAVE THE STATE GOVERNMENTS,
AND THE 1619 PROJECT.
ITS EQUIVALENT TO SAYING, WERE
GOING TO STOP NINJA LESSONS IN
GYM.
WHAT SCHOOLS ARE DEMANDING THE
1619 PROJECT?
IT SEEMS THEY CANT SEEM TO SHOW
EXAMPLES WHERE WHITE KIDS IN
AMERICA ARE TAUGHT TO HATE THEMSELVES.
>> WELL, I MEAN, LOOK, SO THIS
IS -- THE PULLITZERER PULITZERER
NOT LEARNING THE RIGHT HISTORY
IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL,
COLLEGE IN SOME CASES.
UNLESS OR FAMILIES WERE FILLING
IT IN FOR US.
THIS IS NOT HISTORY THAT WAS
TAUGHT, AND NOW THAT THIS IS
AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS, THERE ARE
STATES AT THE STATE LEVEL -- THE
DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY
DIDNT WANT THE CIVIL WAR TALKED
ABOUT.
DIDNT WANT SLAVERY TALKED ABOUT
IN TERMS THAT WERE MEAN OR UGLY
OR HURTFUL TO THE COUNTRY OR SO
CERTAIN AMERICANS.
THIS IS A LONG PART OF TRYING TO
KEEP THAT HISTORY AWAY FROM
FOLKS, AND REALLY, ALL AMERICANS
ARE THE WORST FOR NOT HAVING A
FULLER PICTURE WHERE WE ARE AS A
COUNTRY.
>> AND THE PULITZER IS NOT THE
SAME THING.
IT DOESNT MEAN KIDS ARE BEING
INDOCTRINATED.
I WANT TO BRING IT OUT TO A
LARGER DISCUSSION.
YOURE A HISTORY PROFESSOR.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A LARGER PROBLEM
THAT WE SEE ABOUT HOW BLACK
EXCELLENCE IS TREATED.
RIGHT?
THIS IS WHEN THE UNIVERSITY OF
ARIZONA BROUGHT PRESIDENT OBAMA
IN IN 2009 AND SAID WE WANT TO
YOU BE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER BUT
WE DONT WANT TO OFFER YOU A
DEGREE.
NO SHADE TO ANYBODY WHO WANT TO
THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.
BUT IF YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES IS GOOD
ENOUGH TO COME TO YOUR SCHOOL,
HE SHOULD GET A DEGREE.
HOW DO YOU MAKE -- THE BOARD IS
OKAY WITH HAVING MORE HANNAH
JONES THERE BHMP.
>> WELL, THEY WERE NOT OKAY WITH
HAVING HER THERE.
THAT HAPPENED AS -- THROUGH THE
OTHER LAYERS, THE INSTITUTION
THAT ARE REALLY INTENT ON HAVING
HER PRESENCE ON CAMPUS.
FOR REASONS TO MAKE A LOT OF
SENSE.
WE WENT THROUGH THE CREDENTIALS,
THAT INCLUDE AN McARTHUR AWARD,
A PEABODY AWARD AND THREE
NATIONAL MAGAZINE AWARDS.
JASON, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN
AROUND ACADEMIA A LONG TIME.
THAT WOULD BE AN IMPRESSIVE
TOTAL FOR A DEPARTMENT.
THE ACCOLADES IN THAT
DEPARTMENT, YOU WOULD BE DOING
WELL.
THIS IS ONE INDIVIDUAL.
SO ABSURDLY OVERQUALIFIED FOR
THE POSITION THAT IT MAKES IT
GLARING THE ILLOGIC POSITION
THAT THE BOARD TOOK. IS THIS AN ATTEMPT TO REENSHRINE
IS THIS AN ATTEMPT TO REENSHRINE
THE SYLLABUS OF LIES FOR THE
RATIONALE FOR WHITE SUPREMACY.
AND BLACK RECONSTRUCTION, THIS
HAS BEEN THE FUNDAMENTAL CALLING
OF BLACK HISTORIANS IN THE
COUNTRY TO ADD A CORRECTIVE TO
THE RECORD SO THAT WE MIGHT
ACTUALLY PRESENT A BRIEF FOR
NONRACIAL DEMOCRACY IN THE
COUNTRY.
THIS IS WHY ITS A MUCH BIGGER
ISSUE THAN A SINGLE TENURED CASE
IN A SINGLE INSTITUTION.
THIS IS ABOUT DEMOCRACY, THIS IS
ABOUT ACADEMIC FREEDOM, AND
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
>> AND AS OUR COLLEAGUE WROTE,