Same sex relations were already illegal in Uganda,
but the new law goes much further, including death sentences for, quote,
aggravated homosexuality and 20 years in jail for promoting homosexuality.
>> This is policy that has been pushed in Uganda for over a decade at this point.
And the president of Uganda has signed a new
anti-LGBT law that imposes life sentences in prison and
even the death penalty for members of the LGBTQ community.
So it's known as the Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2023, and
it punishes with death, okay, with death those found guilty of
aggravated homosexuality, a category broadly defined by legislators
to include offenses that range from having gay sex with a minor to
seducing someone through misrepresentation or undue influence.
So, in other words, the provisions in this anti-LGBT law are pretty broad and
can be interpreted in such a way that people could be
sentenced to death just by being who they are.
Now, the law also imposes life imprisonment for
anyone found to have performed a sexual act with a person of the same gender and
up to seven years in prison for an attempt to commit the offense of homosexuality.
So I wanna just be very clear about something.
Much like the don't say gay bill in Florida, what they'll do is they'll
point to something that sounds reasonable to justify the law.
Now, to be clear, I'm against the death penalty in all cases.
I don't think state sponsored murder makes sense when you're trying to send
a message against murder in the United States, right?
In this case, they would implement the death penalty for
someone who is gay and engages in a sexual act with a minor.
So they'll point to that and say, doesn't that sound reasonable?
I mean, they're raping minors.
But no, no, no, understand that that is one tiny portion of this,
and what it's really about is outlawing gay people in Uganda.
>> Okay, two things about that.
Number one, the right-wing in America is already saying what Ana said, and
we'll get to that a little bit later in the show.
They're all like, whoa, whoa, what's the big deal?
They're just killing child rapists.
No, first of all,
they're not killing child rapists if it's a man who rapes a little girl.
That's not in the bill.
>> That's not in the bill, right.
>> Okay, only if it's same sex is there a death penalty.
If you rape a little girl and you're a man, no problem.
Maybe there's a different law, but it's not an execution law, and
it's not this law.
So be clear about what they're saying.
Second of all, you're also getting the death penalty
if you have just normal gay sex in any way because of a misrepresentation?
How many people have done a misrepresentation when they're hooking up?
Well, I took the picture this way instead of this way, it makes me look skinnier.
Misrepresentation, death penalty, undue influence, what the hell does that mean?
>> I mean, it's overly broad.
And it's overly broad on purpose, much like the law in Florida.
Now, the law in Florida is not as extreme.
It doesn't implement the death penalty toward individuals who just happen
to be gay.
But in this case, the punishment is far more extreme, and
the law is written in a broad way, I believe, on purpose.
Now, it's important to understand the forces behind the legislation,
because it's bad enough if we're talking about a conservative party
in another country that has been pushing for this legislation, but understand
that there has been a lot of influence by fundamentalists in the United States.
They have been pushing for this law in Uganda for a long time.
And the people behind it,
the American evangelical group behind it is known as the fellowship.
We've talked about them before.
It's the same group of fundamentalists who are behind the National Prayer Breakfast.
Keep that in mind, okay?
Because the National Prayer Breakfast, which happens every year,
also seems to attract some democrats.
Democrats participate in this, including president Joe Biden.
In fact, in 2023 this year, he gave a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast
even after all the reporting came out in regard to the fellowship and
what they've been pushing for in countries like Uganda.
But nonetheless, [LAUGH] we're gonna give you Biden's
protests in regard to this law in just a moment.
Here's some more details on the fellowship project, though.
The fellowship foundation, which is a secretive US religious group whose
Ugandan associate, David Bahati wrote Uganda's infamous Kill the Gays bill,
is the biggest spender in Africa between 2008 and 2018.
In just ten years, the group spent more than $20 million in
Uganda alone to push for legislation like this disgusting anti-LGBT bill.
With that said, Joe Biden reacted to what Uganda just passed,
what the president just signed, this anti-LGBT bill.
And here's what he says, this shameful act is the latest development
in an alarming trend of human rights abuses and corruption in Uganda.
I have directed my National Security Council to evaluate the implications
of this bill on all aspects of US engagement with Uganda.
So some reporters have taken that to mean that he might consider sanctions against
Uganda because that's gonna help the situation.
I don't think he's even really considering that to be clear.
There is no real indication that he's considering that.
But I don't know, maybe take a step back and consider who you're rubbing shoulders
with, Joe Biden, because the same people that invited you to
the National Prayer Breakfast, the same event that you spoke at this year, those
are the same people who have been pushing this bill in Uganda for over a decade.
They got what they wanted.
Why are you associating yourself with them?
>> 100%, look, I gotta be honest.
We did great reporting on this.
The TYT investigative reporting team was all over the National Prayer Breakfast.
In fact, we did such good reporting, it embarrassed a lot of Democrats
from pulling out all the way to Nancy Pelosi, which is amazing, right?
But one remains, the stalwart, the most conservative Democrat, Joe Biden.
No, he's gonna go to that National Prayer Breakfast,
even though they're the ones that push this bill to execute gay people in Uganda.
He's gonna go and go and go and go so he can say to the Republicans,
I'm just as conservative christian as you guys are, and
then he'll pretend that he cares about the LGBTQ community in Uganda.
Well, you wouldn't go to this monstrous event if you cared at all.
So look, guys, we'll put links down below tyt.com/reports.
You see all of our stories on it.
Amazing reporting.
And we did a petition as well.
That petition is still live right now, go sign it, tyt.com/petitions for
Democrats to boycott the National Prayer Breakfast.
The reason why it's important is then that group, the fellowship,
takes it to other countries like Uganda and brags that everyone in America
agrees cuz here's Democratic president Joe Biden, and he agrees too.
And it gives a misleading impression in Uganda that America is totally in favor of
this bill.
>> Okay, so look, I'm gonna use these examples to reiterate a point
that I've been making on the show.
And sometimes I make it broadly without giving specifics in regard to what I mean.
When I say that Democrats only seem to, the one saving grace for
Democrats is this point where you have a system in which both parties
are corrupted with corporate money.
The only saving grace has been, well, they're better on cultural issues, right?
They're better on cultural issues.
But are they?
Okay, maybe rhetorically they're better on cultural issues, but
when push comes to shove, when you look at their actions, I mean,
I think their actions speak for themselves.
When they had a supermajority and had the ability to codify reproductive rights,
they failed to do so.
They didn't think it was that important, okay?
After the Supreme Court reverses Roe v Wade,
you have corporate Democrats rally in support for Henry Cuellar in Texas,
okay, an anti-reproductive rights Democrat.
They would rather get him re-elected than ensure that his progressive challenger
gets elected instead.
The progressive challenger who actually values reproductive rights.
That's what the mainstream Democratic Party did after the reversal of
Roe v Wade.
Okay, fine.
>> Okay, but on this issue real quick, to your point, Ana,
the Republicans have now proposed hundreds of anti-LGBTQ bills across the country.
So they're awful.
Did the Democrats manage to fight them in the red states and win?
No- >> Why would they?
>> All of them passed, right?
And then what did the Democrats always do?
They almost sing now.
They got a Broadway special.
There was nothing we could do, there was nothing we could do.
No matter what the Republicans proposed, they always win and the Democrats and
the media sing together now, everybody on stage.
There was nothing they could do.
Now in Uganda, they're gonna kill gay people.
They're gonna put them in prison for seven years for maybe hitting on someone.
You go to prison for life if you actually have gay sex.
Prison for life.
And what is Joe Biden doing?
I'm gonna go help the fellowship do it.
But then later I'm gonna put out a statement that I am kind of against it and
I might do something about it later, go to the National Prayer Breakfast again.
>> I am sick of statements from Democrats.
I don't care about their rhetoric, okay?
Their rhetoric being better than the rhetoric that we hear from Republicans
means nothing if they don't put action behind the rhetoric that they engage in,
and they don't put action behind it.
They always find convenient excuses.
And I'm not really interested in their excuses.
Even with Democrats having a majority in Congress,
having control of the levers of power,
they somehow miraculously find excuses for why they can't get anything done.
It's just incredibly frustrating.
And again, I want Democrats to explain to me what
they plan to run on, what they plan to campaign on.
I get it. They're gonna campaign on
Trump is very dangerous.
Okay, but think about your voting base.
Think about voters in general.
Have their lives improved since that exchange of power occurred?
Since Biden came into power, have their lives improved?
>> No Ana, but there was nothing they could do, there was nothing they could do.
Elect Democrats and Republicans will only get half of what they want.
Wow, what a compelling message.
Guys, we're constructive every time.
I'll tell you super quick what Biden could have done was simple thing, tiny thing,
wouldn't have cost them anything.
Hey, National Prayer Breakfast, I am definitely
not coming next year unless you go call off your dogs in Uganda.
You keep sending the fellowship guys to Uganda and
telling them that you want them to pass that bill.
You do it one more time and I'm gonna burn that National Prayer Breakfast
to the ground, and I'm gonna make sure no Democrat ever goes to it.
Believe me, tuck their tail between their legs and they come scurrying, and
maybe we save some lives in Uganda.
Did Biden do that?
Nop. There's always something they could do.
They're lying when they say there's nothing they could do.