JOINING US NOW, ROBERT COSTA AND
MICHAEL STEELE IS BACK WITH US.
BOB COSTA, WHAT IS GOING ON FOR
THE VOTERS WHO DONALD TRUMP WAS
PRETTY POPULAR THERE AND HE IS
NOW MAKING THE TWO REPUBLICANS
WHO ARE ELECTED STATEWIDE,
GOVERNOR KEMP AND THE SECRETARY
OF STATE, THE VILLAINS IN THE
STORY OF HIS DEFEAT.
>> NICOLLE, HE IS PRETTY POPULAR
THERE, IT’S TRUE, WITH
REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
IT’S PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN
THAT’S WON GEORGIA.
AND THAT’S INDICATIVE OF THE
CHALLENGE FACING SENATOR
LOEFFLER AND PERDUE AT THIS
CROSSROADS.
THEY NEED THAT TRUMP VOTER TO
COME OUT ON JANUARY 5th.
IT’S ABOUT ENERGY, IT’S ABOUT
GRASSROOTS ENTHUSIASM.
AT THE SAME TIME, THEY’RE
LOOKING AT A GEORGIA THAT’S
CHANGING.
THIS IS NOT THE GEORGIA THAT
ELECTED NEWT GINGRICH.
THIS ISN’T REALLY THE GEORGIA
THAT ELECTED BRIAN KEMP AS
GOVERNOR.
YOU SEE THE STACEY ABRAMS
COALITION RISING IN THE STATE.
THE WHOLE PLAY IS TO TRY TO GET
PRESIDENT TRUMP TO COME DOWN AND
GET THE WHITE VOTERS IN THE
SUBURBS OF ATLANTA TO COME OUT,
BUT THEY’RE GOING AGAINST A
RISING TIDE AND NEW DEMOCRATIC
COALITIONS.
>> MICHAEL STEELE, I’LL SAVE MY
RUDE QUESTION FOR YOU. FOR YOU.
THE TWO REPUBLICANS THERE ARE
TAINTED WITH INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISM THAT RAISE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT ETHICS TO PUT IT
DELICATELY.
THEY’RE TERRIBLE CANDIDATES IN A
STATE THAT AS BOB SAID IS VERY
MUCH TRENDING TOWARD THE
DEMOCRATS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> YEAH, BUT THEY’RE TRUMP
CANDIDATES SO IT WORKS.
I MEAN, TALK ABOUT TAINT.
>> IT DIDN’T WORK FOR TRUMP.
>> NO, BUT THE POINT IS IT
WORKED FOR THE BASE TO ROBERT’S
POINT, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT
CONSTITUENCY THAT IS BEING
ADDRESSED HERE.
IT IS NOT THE BROADER STACY
ABRAM COALITION OF VOTERS OUT
THERE.
NOW GOVERNOR KEMP IS LOOKING AT
THAT, ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE HE SEES
WHAT THE HORIZON IS FOR HIM IN
THE NEXT ELECTION.
HE KNOWS WHERE THIS GOES.
SO YOU CAN’T BE ON THE WRONG
SIDE OF THAT NARRATIVE.
BUT FOR THE MOMENT, RIGHT NOW,
LOEFFLER AND OTHERS, AND PERDUE,
THEY’RE SPEAKING IF A VERY
NARROW SPACE.
AND THEY FIND THEMSELVES CAUGHT
ON A PARTICULAR HOOK AND THAT IS
THE ONE THAT AGAIN THAT ROBERTS
POINTED OUT IS THAT YOU NOW NEED
THE VOTERS TO GET EXCITED ABOUT
AN ELECTION IN WHICH THEY --
BOTH THESE CANDIDATES WERE
APPEARED EARLIER THAT THEY NOW
SAY WAS SOMEHOW TAINTED OR
FRAUDULENT, RIGHT.
THEY NOW NEED THEM TO COME BACK
AND TRUST THIS VERY SAME SYSTEM
OVER SEEN BY A REPUBLICAN
GOVERNOR AND A REPUBLICAN
SECRETARY OF STATE, EVEN WHILE
THINK CALL FOR THE SECRETARIES
OF STATE’S RESIGNATION TO COME
OUT AND GET BEHIND THEM AND IT
IS A CONUNDRUM THEY CAN’T
OVERCOME.
AND SO WHILE THE COALITION
OUTSIDE OF THE GOP CONTINUES TO
GROW, AND VOTE BY MAIL, SOME
OVER 850,000 I UNDERSTAND
REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR THAT
JANUARY 5th BALLOT, RIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT IS NOT
REPUBLICANS.
>> RIGHT.
>> BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN TOLD NOT
TO TRUST THAT SYSTEM.
>> RIGHT.
>> WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?
>> RIGHT.
>> AND SO HERE THEY ARE ASKING
FOR PEOPLE TO RESIGN AND TRYING
TO GET THE BASE STIRRED UP
ANOTHER WAY TO GET EXCITED ABOUT
AN ELECTION THAT THEY THEMSELVES
HAVE PAINTED AS FRAUDULENT AND
NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD
SUPPORT.
>> BOB COSTA, I DON’T START A
LOT OF SENTENCES WITH SAYING
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
REPUBLICAN HEROES OR ONE BUT
SECRETARY OF STATE RAFFENSPERGER
IS ONE, FOR NOT, AND THE BAR IS
LOW TO BE A REPUBLICAN HERO
THESE DAYS, BUT FOR NOT BENDING
TO THE PRESSURE CAMPAIGN FROM
THE TWO REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND
THE PRESIDENT.
CHRIS KREBS, THE NATIONAL
SECURITY OFFICIAL IN CHARGE OF
SECURING THE ELECTION WAS ASKED
ABOUT GEORGIA ON 60 MINUTES LAST
NIGHT.
LET’S WATCH AND WE’LL TALK ABOUT
IT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN
GEORGIA.
GEORGIA HAS MACHINES THAT TAB
LATE THE VOTE.
THEY THEN HELD A HAND RECOUNT IN
THE OUTCOME WAS CONSISTENT WITH
THE MACHINE VOTE.
>> AND THAT TELLS YOU WHAT?
>> THAT TELLS THAT YOU THERE WAS
NO MANIPULATION OF THE VOTE ON
THE MACHINE COUNT SIDE.
AND SO THAT PRETTY THOROUGHLY IN
MY OPINION DEBUNKED SOME OF THE
SENSATIONAL CLAIMS OUT THERE
THAT I’VE CALLED NONSENSE AND
HOAX THAT THERE IS SOME HACKING
OF THESE ELECTION VENDORS AND IN
THEIR SOFTWARE.
>> SO ROBERT COSTA, THAT WAS
SUCH AN IMPORTANT ARTICULATION
FOR WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TOFR
RIGGED VOTING MACHINES BECAUSE
WHEN A STATE OR COUNTIES COUNT
IS RECOUNTED THERE IS PAPER AND
YOU CHECK TO SEE IF THE PAPER
MATCHED THE MACHINE COUNT AND
WHAT CHRIS KREBS IS SAYING THERE
IS THAT IN GEORGIA THERE WAS A
RECOUNTS AND IT MATCHED THE
VOTE.
HOW ON EARTH AND ON WHAT GROUNDS
DOES KELLY LOEFFLER GET OFF
SAYING HE SHOULD BE FIRED.
>> THOSE ARE BASELESS STATEMENTS
BY SENATOR LOEFFLER.
RAFFENSPERGER SAID HE BELIEVES
BAD ACTORS, HIS WORDS, ARE
TRYING TO DAMAGE THE CREDIBILITY
AND ERODE CREDIBILITY IN THE
ELECTION AND THE CHALLENGE NOW
FOR SENATOR LEVELLEROEFFLER AND
IS THEY COME FROM THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY IN GEORGIA.
THIS IS A STATE REPUBLICAN
ELECTORATE THAT IS NOT ALL TRUMP
RALLY GOERS GOING JUST TO
EVERYTHING PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID
AND ECHOING IT.
THIS IS A REPUBLICAN PARTY IN
GEORGIA THAT COMES OUT OF THAT
ATLANTA MINDSET, THE TOM PRICE
REPUBLICANS AND THE DAVID PERDUE
REPUBLICANS, THAT TRACE TALKS
LIKE SENATOR PERDUE AND
LOEFFLER.
I’VE COVERED GEORGIA ELECTIONS
WITH PEOPLE LIKE RAFFENSPERGER
AND THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE
COMING WEEKS.
WHO DID THE REPUBLICAN VOTERS
ACTUALLY BELIEVE.
>> ROBERT COSTA, WHAT DO YOU
THINK MAKE OF THE SORT OF IMPACT
OR THE WEIGHT OF SOME OF THE
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING IN YOUR
PAPER AND IN OTHERS ABOUT THE
ETHICS QUESTIONS AROUND BOTH
SENATORS PURDUE AND LOEFFLER.
>> SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
MORE INVESTIGATIONS NEED TO BE
DONE.
AND THE POST WILL CONTINUE TO
PURSUE IT.
WHETHER IT IS SENATOR LOEFFLER
AND PERDUE, MAKING ACTIVE TRADES
AS MEMBERS OF THE U.S. SENATE,
IT DESERVES THE HOTTEST POSSIBLE
SPOTLIGHT WHETHER THEY
REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS BECAUSE
THEY’RE ELECTED MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE.
NOT NECESSARILY TRADING ON