LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK THINKS
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING TO
CELEBRATE.
>> Martha: WITH THAT, WE BRING
IN KARL ROVE, FORMER DEPUTY
CHIEF OF STATE TO GEORGE W. BUSH
AND JOE CONCHA, FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE.
KARL, LET ME START WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, GREAT IMAGES OF THE
PRESIDENT IN SOME FANCY-LOOKING
EVs AND CHARGING STATIONS THAT
HE WANTS TO BUILD ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
IS THAT A WINNER FOR HIM
POLITICALLY?
>> WELL, A MINOR WINNER BUT
WHATEVER ADVANTAGE HE GAINED
FROM THAT HE LOST BUT THE STUPID
EVENT YESTERDAY CELEBRATING THE
SO-CALLED INFLATION REDUCTION
ACT WHEN THE INFLATION WEPT UP.
WHEN ASKED IF HE WAS WORRIED IF
IT’S GOING UP, IT’S 1/10 OF 1%.
IT’S 8.3% OVER A YEAR.
ENERGY IS UP 83%.
FOOT UP 11.4.
NANCY PELOSI SHOWED UP AT THE
THING AND SAID WE’RE LOWERING
THE COST OF KITCHEN TABLE ITEMS
FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES.
MEAT, POULTRY, FISH AND EGGS ARE
UN-10.6.
DAIRY UP 16.2.
I’M WONDER WHAT KITCHEN TABLE
ITEMS SHE’S TALKING ABOUT?
MAYBE IT’S SOMETHING AT 1 OF
THOSE LUXURY HOPE GOOD STORES IN
NAPA VALLEY.
IT’S NOT THE ORDINARY AMERICAN
FAMILY.
>> Martha: JOE, MOSTLY THIS
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT
DOESN’T TOUCH ANYTHING FOR
ANOTHER COUPLE YEARS HAS A LOT
OF GREEN ENERGY INITIATIVES IN
IT.
IT HAS REDUCTIONS IN HEALTHCARE
IN TERMS OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
THAT ALSO DON’T KICK IN FOR SOME
TIME.
THIS IS THE STORY AND THEY’RE
ABSOLUTELY STICKING WITH IT.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> IT’S COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH
TO KARL’S POINT, MARTHA.
IT’S COMPLETELY OFF THE GRID,
ACTUALLY, IN TERMS OF VOTER
PRIORITIES AS JACQUI POINTED OUT
IN HER REPORT.
YOU LOOK AT GALLUP.
INFLATION AND ECONOMY DWARF
EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THEY DO IN
EVERY OTHER ELECTION PRETTY
MUCH.
THE THINKING HERE RESIDES IN A
FANTASY WORLD AS FAR AS OH, IF
EVERYBODY COULD GET AN ELECTRIC
CARE, WE CAN HELP CURE THE
CLIMATE.
THE AVERAGE COST OF THE AN
ELECTRIC CAR IS $66,000.
WE KEEP BEING TOLD THAT ELECTRIC
CAR COSTS WILL KEEP COMING DOWN.
THE OPPOSITE IS HAPPENING.
HOW THE HECK DOES THE AVERAGE
PERSON AFFORD TO BUY AN ELECTRIC
CAR?
LOOK AT THE AVERAGE MEDIAN.
IF THEY WORK AN ENTIRE YEAR,
THEY STILL CAN’T AFFORD TO BUY
THE AVERAGE ELECTRIC CAR.
REPUBLICANS SHOULD HAMMER THIS
POINT HOME, THIS ADMINISTRATION
IS PUSHING A FINANCIAL
IMPOSSIBILITY FOR AN
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF
AMERICANS WHILE THEY’RE
CANCELLING OIL LEASE AFTER OIL
LEASE IN THE GULF OR OFTEN THE
COAST OF ALASKA, STRIPPING US OF
ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AND FORCING
PLACES LIKE EUROPE TO DEPEND ON
RUSSIAN OIL.
THIS SHOULD BE A CENTRAL FOCUS
IN THE MID-TERMS IF REPUBLICANS
ARE SMART, MARTHA.
>> Martha: LET’S PULL UP THIS
CHART.
THE CHANGE IN CPI FOR MAJOR
CITIES.
YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS WHERE
WE’VE SEEN THE FASTEST GROWTH IN
THE CONSUMER PRICE INDECEMBER.
THERE’S SENATE RACES.
ARIZONA, GEORGIA, FLORIDA AT THE
TOP OF THE LIST.
ALSO PHILADELPHIA IS ON THE LIST
AS WELL IN PENNSYLVANIA UP 8.1%.
TO JOE’S QUESTION, KARL, WHAT
ARE REPUBLICANS OFFERING IN
TERMS OF AN INFLATION REDUCTION
PACKAGE THAT THEY FEEL WOULD
ACTUALLY BE EFFECTIVE IN
LOWERING PRICES IN THE SHORT
TERM?
>> FIRST OF ALL, STOP THE
SPENDING.
WE HAVE -- WE’VE GOT A GIVE-AWAY
ON STUDENT LOANS THAT WILL COST
BETWEEN $519 BILLION AND A
TRILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAVE THE SO-CALLED INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT, WHOSE PRICE TAG
IS VARIOUSLY $435 BILLION AND
UP.
STOP THE SPENDING.
BEST THING THAT THE GOVERNMENT
CAN DO IS STOP ADDING TO THE
DEMAND.
INFLATION IS TOO MUCH MONEY
CHASING TOO FEW GOODS.
WE HAVE PUMPED BETWEEN THE
AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND OTHER
THINGS, SEVERAL TRILLION DOLLARS
OF DEMAND IN THE ECONOMY WITHIN
BASICALLY 1 1/2 YEARS.
SO THE FIRST THING IS STOP THE
UNNECESSARY SPENDING.
TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE
TRUTH.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES SAYS EVERYTHING IS OKAY
AND HAS JAMES TAYLOR OUT THERE,
YOU KNOW, SINGING "FIRE AND
RAIN" OTHER THAN A BALLAD ABOUT
SUICIDE AND GRIEF, MAYBE HE
SHOULD HAVE DONE "ONLY IT’S A
PAPER MOON".
IT’S A BARNUM AND BAILEY WORLD,
AS PHONY AS IT CAN BE.
IT WOULD NOT BE MAKE BELIEVE IF
YOU BELIEVED IN ME.
THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO
SELL IS A PHONY VIEW OF THE
WORLD AS IT IS.
IT WILL DISCONNECT THEM FROM THE
VOTERS AND SUFFER AT THE POLLS
ACCORDINGLY.
>> Martha: KARL, IF ONLY THING
THAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT BETTER
IF YOU SANG IT FOR US.
>> YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR ME
SING, MARTHA.
>> Martha: OKAY.
>> I CAN LISTEN TO THIS ALL DAY.
>> Martha: MAYBE THAT’S TRUE.
JOE, YOU KNOW, TALK TO US ABOUT
WHAT YOU THINK VOTERS ARE
THINKING AS WE HEAD INTO THE
EIGHT WEEKS BEFORE THE MID-TERM
AND WATCHING THIS AT THE WHITE
HOUSE AND SEEING PRICES GO UP
AND BEING TOLD BUY AN ELECTRIC
CAR AND EVERYTHING WILL BE
BETTER.
PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHAT
REPUBLICANS WILL OFFER AND THE
RACES TIGHTEN UP.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT BUMPER
STICKERS LAST WEEK.
I GET THE OBAMA AND BIDEN
CAMPAIGN IN 2012 CREDIT.
A SIMPLE SLOGAN TO ABSORB.
GENERAL MOTORS IS ALIVE AND BIN
LADEN IS DEAD.
YOU NEED TWO SENTENCES LIKE
THAT.
I DON’T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF
MY HEAD.
ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN TWO
YEARS AGO.
OR DO YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A LESS
EXPENSIVE COUNTRY AND A MORE
SAFE COUNTRY?
MAKE IT ABOUT ECONOMY AND CRIME,
WORK THE BORDER IN THERE AS
WELL, THE OPIOID OVERDOSES THAT
ARE HAPPENING, 300 PEOPLE DYING
A DAY DRIVEN BY FENTANYL.
YOU HAVE TO CONFORM IT TO --
BRING IT IN TO FOUR BASIC
MESSAGES THAT ARE
PRACTICINGMATIC, COMMON SENSE
AND EASY FOR PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND.
WHEN THEY MAKE THAT CHOICE, THE
CONTRAST IS THERE.
AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW WHAT
POSITIVE THINGS DEMOCRATS RUN
ON.
IF IT’S THE INFLATION REDUCTION
ACT, EVEN THOUGH IT’S A
LEGISLATIVE WIN, IT’S A LOSS IN
THE MINDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT WON’T
REDUCE INFLATION.
>> Martha: ALL RIGHT.
JUST A MINUTE, KARL.
BRET IS COMING UP.
WE’RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
PENNSYLVANIA RACE WHERE FETTER
MAN IS STILL AHEAD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BUMPER
STICKER SHOULD BE FOR DR. OZ IN
THAT RACE?
>> MY OPPONENT IS A FAR-OUT
LIBERAL, A LEFT WINGER WHO WANTS
TO TAX MORE, LET CRIMINALS OUT
OF JAIL, OPEN THE BORDER, CUT
THE DEFENSE BUDGET AND RUIN THE
ENERGY INDUSTRY OF PENNSYLVANIA.
SHARP CONTRAST ON ANY OF THOSE
ISSUES WILL HELP DR. OZ DEFEAT
FETTERMAN.
HE IS WAY OUT THERE.
HE’S NOT IN THE MAINSTREAM OF
PENNSYLVANIA’S THINKING.
>> MARTHA, I THINK ULTIMATELY
ONCE --
>> Martha: GO AHEAD, JOE.
>> ONCE A DEBATE HAPPENS AND IT
WILL HAPPEN NOW "THE WASHINGTON
POST" IS EVEN PUSHING FETTERMAN
TO DEBATE BEFORE VOTES ARE
PASSED SEPTEMBER 19.
THE MINUTE HE’S EXPOSED, THAT
WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THE
RACE.
WE WISH HIM WELL BUT HE’S NOT
THERE IN TERMS OF SPEECH OR
MOTOR SKILLS.
>> Martha: COULD BE.
WE’LL BE WATCHING.
BRET BAIER IS COMING UP.
WE’LL DIG IN THE MID-TERM RACES
AS WE’RE INSIDE EIGHT WEEKS.
THANKS, KARL.
THANKS FOR SINGING FOR US.
GLAD TO HEAR YOUR FAVORITE JAMES