Hey there guys, this is Reckles with WTBGold and today I’m gonna show you how you can
buy out Felslate for up to 130 gold per ore and still make a profit.
So, let’s go, let’s do this guide.
Alright, so.
Today, we’re going to go over 5 questions.
What’s ore worth?
What’s the rare gem drop rate when prospecting?
Is that drop rate random?
Is felslate actually worth more than leystone?
And finally what is the pandemonite weaving, also known as rare dancing or the new legion
jewelcrafting shuffle?
So first, what’s ore worth?
Well you could just go with an Economics definition and say It’s worth what the average person
is willing and able to spend on it.
The best benchmarks for this are the websites WoWUction and TheUndermineJournal.
I’ve done a few videos talking about the best ways to utilize these sites, and check
the description for links to them, but for our purposes, we can just use the tooltips
provided by TradeSkillMaster.
Now, for most items you want to use a global source, something that averages out the prices
across all realms, the specific tag is DBGlobalMarketAvg.
For current content commodities where, anything that there's always going to be thousands
up, things like ore, herbs, flasks, a more reliable and meaningful tool is the local
average, something specific for your server, like DBMarket.
All that being said, on my server, Leystone goes for 20g.
Felslate goes for 60g.
But all that doesn’t answer the question.
If you’re going to use a crafting profession, and turn that ore into something better, then
it’s going to be worth more.
Blacksmiths are easy.
They can buy 70 felslate and turn it into 815 wrists that sell for between 5,000 to
15,000 gold.
So to a blacksmith, do a little math, felslate is worth between 70 and 200 gold each, depending
on how much wrists are going for.
Done.
Easy.
Jewelcrafters on the other hand take ore, prospect it 5 at a time, and turn it into
random gems.
So, if I’m trying to buy a couple thousand ore for prospecting, will I make money buying
it at 60 gold?
Should I buy out everything up to 70?
What about 100?
TSM again gives us the answer, with with the Prospecting Value in the tooltip.
This says that both leystone and felslate are worth 40g each.
But you know, I heard your buddy Jimbo talkin, and HE said you get more rare gems from felslate,
so it should be worth more.
To find out if Jimbo’s right and to figure out the prospect value, we gotta figure out
the drop rate.
Normally we’d turn to WoWHead here but they’ve completely failed the goldmaking community
this expansion by not tracking conversion rates or even gathering nodes.
Long story short, we gotta figure it out for ourselves.
And for that, we turn to the consortium.
So, what is the rare drop rate?
Stormspire.net and tradeskillmaster.com are the websites behind TSM.
On their chat channel, I talked with wubbits who has been compiling all his prospecting
data for this expansion along with a friend Angangg.
Side note: angangg is 100% the most filipino screenname I’ve ever heard, with the exception
of something ridiculous like, pinoy1898.
With all of our data combined, we’ve prospected over 52,000 ore.
From that we’ve got decently reliable results.
Every time you prospect 5 leystone ore, you have a 30% chance of getting an uncommon gem
and a 5% chance of getting a rare So, Is this random?
Short answer: Yes, no, and Maybe.
Yes, because it randomly rolls for a new color whenever you loot a gem.
No, because red gems and green gems have half the drop rate of the other four gems, so it's
not 100% even in its randomness.
Maybe, because we don’t have enough data to know if the ratio can be manipulated.
Do you get more azsunite if you prospect ore while in Azsuna?
We don’t have enough data to know that.
So, number 4.
Is felslate worth more than leystone?
Well according to the auctionhouse, yes.
According to the numbers, well also yes.
Felslate drops all gems rare and uncommon at what looks like a 3.5x greater rate than
leystone, so if leystone is worth 20 gold, felslate would be worth 70 gold
And finally, what is this Pandemonite Weaving.
This new legion jewelcrafting shuffle?
Depending on prices on your server you may want specific rare gems.
Since felslate is expensive, it’d be great if you can only use it for the rares you want.
Turns out, you can do this and potentially double the value of felslate.
Every time you prospect you’ll recieve a gem chip.
If you turn off autolooting, you’ll notice that the icon for the gem chips you loot are
the color of the next gem you’ll recieve.
In other words, when you click prospect leystone, the code in the game rolls 1-1000 and depending
on what number it gets, it determines the color for your next gem.
Then it rolls 1-1000 again and if it gets more than 700, you get an uncommon.
Then it rolls again for rare gems, and if you get more than 940 you’ll get a rare.
For felslate you have much better odds.
If you roll more than a 100, you’ll get an uncommon and you only have to roll an 850
to get a rare.
For those paying super close attention, yes you can get both.
So, let’s say pandemonite is selling for 4000 gold and all other gems are selling for
1000-2000.
So, pandemonite weaving works like this.
Start off prospecting leystone until you get a green gem chip.
Immediately switch over to felslate.
Prospect that until you get a gem, and then go back to prospecting leystone until you
get another green gem chip.
In other words, whenever the gem chip you get while prospecting leystone is the color
of an expensive gem on your server, swap over to felslate and you’ll have a higher probability
of getting a rare of that color.
Using this technique, you can calculate how much each felslate is worth.
It’s a complicated formula but I’ve put a link in the description to wubbits spreadsheet
where you can figure out how much pandemonite weaving is worth on your server.
With weaving, you’re actually slightly lowering the value of leystone and raising the value
of felslate when you optimize, so it’s a tradeoff.
Leystone will be worth less, but you’ll make more in the long run.
Maybe more than that though, it offers a slight illusion of control in a relentlessly RNG
filled profession like Jewelcrafting.
The value of jewelcrafting is always highest when a new raid comes out and then falls from
there, so hopefully you can use this to make gold now while people are still underestimating
how much ore is worth.
In the comments, I want you to do something for me.
Let’s work together and get even more reliable data.
If you have at least 1000 ore to prospect, just mass prospect it all and let me know
in the comments the breakdown of what you got.
I’ve got an example in the description so we have some consistency.
Let me know how many prospects you performed, how much ore you prospected, and what gems
you got.
For this, the data is only meaningful if you don’t do the weaving trick.
So, it’s up to you.
Other than that, we’re done!
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Have a good one guys, see you tomorrow!
Bye.