GRIFF: FOX NEWS ALERT.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN NOT CHEXD ON
FOR HOURS.
AINSLEY: LEARNING THAT HE
SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHECKED ON
EVERY 30 MINUTES.
LET'S BRING ON MATTHEW
WHITAKER FORMER ACTING
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND
INCOMING OUTSIDE GENERAL
COUNSEL FOR PCATIC.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
>> I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH
THE FOLKS AT PCATIC CLIENTS
AS PART OF MY LAW PRACTICE.
I REALLY LIKE THE COMPANY
AND IT SHOULD BE A FUN TIME.
AINSLEY: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
WHAT HAPPENED TO EPSTEIN?
DO YOU THINK THIS WAS IS YOU
SUICIDE.
>> THIS IS THE GREAT THING
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL I
HEAD UP THE BUREAU OF
PRISONS AMONG OTHER THINGS.
I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT BILL
BARR TOOK THIS INCREDIBLY
SERIOUSLY AND SAID WE HAVE
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS
AND BROUGHT IN MICHAEL
HOROWITZ WHO IS THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL AND WHO
HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE
INVESTIGATING THINGS THAT
HAVE HAPPENED AT VOP
INCLUDING IN ITS NEW YORK
CITY JAIL.
I ALSO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WAS
THERE WHEN GENERAL SESSIONS
APPOINTED HUGH HOROWITZ TO
BE THE VOP.
IS HE A METHODICAL PROCEDURE
BASED PERSON.
VOP NOBODY DOES IT BETTER
THAN VOP.
I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE SOME
OF THESE PROTOCOLS AND
PROCEDURES 30 MINUTE CHECK
AND THE LIKE WERE NOT
FOLLOWED.
I THINK THERE ARE SERIOUS
QUESTIONS THAT RIZZS RAD ARE RAI
QUESTIONS THAT RIZZS RAD ARE RAE
QUESTIONS THAT RIZZS RAD ARE RAD
HERE.
I THINK REASON AND COMMON
SENSE WOULD SUGGEST THAT
SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
CHECKING ON HIM BASTED ON
WHAT HAD HAPPENED SEVERAL
WEEKS BEFORE.
GRIFF: YOU SAY SERIOUS
QUESTIONS BEING ASKED.
IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
TODAY THEIR OP-ED BASICALLY
SAYS THAT THIS FIASCO, THIS
WHATEVER HAS HAPPENED, WE
WILL GET THE FACTS, BUT THIS
IS PART OF WHY AMERICANS
DON'T TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT
HOW IMPORTANT IS GETTING
THIS INVESTIGATION RIGHT,
CONCISE, AND TRANSPARENT?
>> WELL, THE TRANSPARENCY IS
THE KEY.
THAT'S WHAT BUILD CONFIDENCE
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
IF YOU DON'T GIVE ALL OF THE
FACTS AND ESSENTIALLY A LINE
BY LINE AS TO WHAT WE LOOKED
INTO, WHAT WE TALKED TO,
WHAT WE FOUND, WHAT WE SAW,
WHAT WAS VIOLATED, IF
ANYTHING, AND THE WHO, WHAT,
JUST LIKE THE FACTS, THEN
THE CONFIDENCE WON'T BE
THERE.
SO WE NEED LIKE ULTIMATE
TRANSPARENCY IN THIS CASE.
NOW, THIS IS THE SAME JAIL
THAT CHAPO WAS JUST BEING
HELD BEFORE HE WAS
TRANSFERRED OUT TO THE SUPER
MAX IN COLORADO.
SO I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE
THAT THEY CAN HOLD LIMB HIM
BASICALLY WITHOUT INCIDENT
AND EPSTEIN TWICE.
ONCE AN ALLEGED FAILED
ATTEMPT AT SUICIDE AND NOW A
SUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTED.
SOMETHING, I THINK, THE
QUESTION SURROUNDINGS THIS
SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP.
WE NEED FULL TRANSPARENCY
AND WE NEED THE ANSWERS ON
THIS.
PETE: YOU MENTIONED HOROWITZ
WHICH SENT MY MIND IN
ANOTHER DIRECTION AND HIS
NAME HAS BEEN USED ON THE
OTHER INSPECTOR GENERAL
INVESTIGATION.
ANY SENSE ON WHEN HIS OTHER
INVESTIGATION COMES OUT
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED?
>> PETE, I THINK EVERYONE
BELIEVES THAT IT'S GOING TO
BE SEPTEMBER AND THOSE
ARE -- THAT TOGETHER WITH
THE DURHAM PIECE OF THOSE
INVESTIGATIONS INTO THAT
ENTIRE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
IS GOING TO BE KEY.
AND, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE WE
WILL NEED FULL TRANSPARENCY.
WE WILL NEED TO KNOW WHAT
DECISIONS WERE MADE.
WHY DID THEY MAKE THEM?
WHAT WAS THE PREDICATE FOR
THESE INVESTIGATIONS?
I MEAN, I KNOW SOME OF IT,
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
HEARD BILL BARR SAY AFTER HE
TOOK OVER IN FEBRUARY FROM
ME IS THAT HE COULDN'T GET
ANSWERS TO SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS.
I FELT THE SAME WAY.
I ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS
AND I COULDN'T GET ANSWERS
EITHER.
I WAS GLAD TO SEE HIM DO
THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL
GET SOME OF THESE ANSWERS.
AINSLEY: AS FAR AS THE
TRANSPARENCY IN THE EPSTEIN
THING, HOW DO YOU FIND OUT
WHAT REALLY GOES ON BEHIND
BARS DON'T SNITCH, DON'T
TATTLE BECAUSE BAD THINGS
COULD HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU
DO THAT.
HOW DO YOU REALLY FIND OUT
THE TRUTH?
>> IT'S LIKE CONDUCTING ANY
OTHER INVESTIGATION.
YOU START ON THE OUTSIDE AND
WORK YOUR WAY IN.
THE INTERESTING THING IS
THEY HAVE CANAL ARE AS BUT
NOT IN THE CELLS.
ONLY THERE WAS STAFF THERE
DOING THINGS.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS
NOBODY IN THE CELL WITH HIM.
TO SOME EXTENT IT'S GOING TO
BE WHAT WAS HAPPENING
OUTSIDE OF THE CELL AND IN
THE HALLWAYS AND WHO WAS
MOVING AROUND AT THE TIME.
THOSE CAMERAS USUALLY ARE
YOUR BEST FACT PROVIDER.
GRIFF: YOU MENTIONED BARR.
IS HE VERY OUTRAGED AND
UPSET.
IS THAT JUSTIFIED?
>> I'M SURE WHEN HE GOT THE
NEWS, I'M GUESSING HE DID
NOT USE THE BEST LANGUAGE
BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT IS --
THAT WAS, IF NOT THE MOST
HIGH PROFILE CASE GOING ON
AT DOJ THE MOST HIGH PROFILE
CASE.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE
VICTIMS RECEIVE THE
SATISFACTION AND THE JUSTICE
THAT THEY DESERVE.
SO, TO BE -- TO HAVE IT GO
DOWN THE WAY 20 DOWN, I
THINK IS -- YOU WOULD WANT
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
OUTRAGED AND VERY ANGRY AND
COMMANDING ANSWERS.
GRIFF: WE SHALL SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
MATT WHITCHER, THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW