>>> LET ME TELL YOU WHAT NEVER,
EVER, EVER SHOULD BE VOTED MORE
IF THIS IS RIDICULOUS, OKAY?
PINEAPPLE DOESNT BELONG ON
PIZZA.
WERE NOT IN CALIFORNIA, OKAY?
THIS IS SACRILEGIOUS IN
ITALY PUT PINEAPPLE ON A PIZZA.
SO IM JUST TOTALLY, NO WAY,
NEVER GOING TO RANK THAT.
VEGAN CHEESE, RESPECT, OKAY?
RESPECT VEGAN CHEESE.
NOT READY MYSELF FOR IT YET.
REALLY HONOR WHAT THE VEGAN
CHEESEMAKERS ARE DOING.
CLAMS.
WERE NOT NEW HAVEN, OKAY.
>> THAT IS NEW YORK MAYOR BILL
DE BLASIO EXPLAINING RANK CHOICE
VOTING VIA PIZZA.
HES RIGHT ABOUT PINEAPPLE
PIZZA, AND IF YOU WANT THE CLAM
PIZZA, YOU HAVE TO GO UP TO
CONNECTICUT.
HE ALSO ANNOUNCED THAT MACYS
JULY 4th FIREWORKS WILL BE BACK
IN FULL THIS YEAR.
LAST YEAR, THE FIREWORKS WERE
ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY PRE-TAPED
WITH NO LIVE CROWDS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, BROADWAY WILL
BE BACK THIS FALL.
THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AMERICAN
PLAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY, "TO
KILL A MOCKINGBIRD," ANNOUNCED
IT WILL RESUME PERFORMANCES ON
OCTOBER 5th WITH JEFF DANIELS
BACK AS ATTICUS FINCH.
JOINING US NOW, JONATHAN
MALLARD.
HE SPENT THE LAST SIX MONTHS
TRAVELING AROUND NEW YORK CITY,
TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO WERE
TRYING TO SHAPE ITS
POST-PANDEMIC FUTURE.
HIS LATEST PIECE IS TITLED, "NEW
YORK IS BACK.
NOW IT HAS A SECOND CHANCE."
GOOD MORNING ITS GREAT TO HAVE
YOU WITH US.
AS YOU POINT OUT IN THE PEES,
THESE LAST FEW WEEKS IN
PARTICULAR, THIS JUST BEEN
JOYFUL.
THE WEATHER IS GOOD.
THE CDC RELAXED ITS MASK
MANDATES, THE PARKS ARE FULL.
PEOPLE ARE HAPPY TO STEP BACK
INTO REAL LIFE.
BUT NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHAT
DOES THAT FUTURE LOOK LIKE?
WHAT DID YOU FIND AS YOU TRAVEL
AROUND?
>> I THINK THATS WHERE WE ARE
AT RIGHT NOW, JUST READY TO
RETURN TO NORMAL.
BUT WE DID JUST COME THROUGH
THIS EXPERIENCE WHICH REVEALED A
LOT OF DEEP STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS
IN THE CITY.
AND I THINK PEOPLE AROUND THE
CITY ARE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT
WHAT -- YOU KNOW, HOW WE MIGHT
BE ABLE -- HOW WE MIGHT GO ABOUT
ADDRESSING THOSE PROBLEMS, YOU
KNOW, IN THE MONTHS AND YEARS
AHEAD.
SO RATHER THAN JUST LEAPING BACK
INTO THE REOPENING OF THE CITY
AND FORGET T ABOUT HOW
DISPROPORTIONATE THE SUFFERING
WAS AND ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL
PROBLEMS THAT CAUSED ALL OF THE
SUFFERING TO BE SO
DISPROPORTIONATE, THAT THE
CONCERN IS THAT WERE GOING TO
LEAP BACK IN AND RETURN TO
NORMAL AND NOT ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES.
SO PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT
DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADDRESS THEM.
WHAT THAT MEANS, RECONSIDERING
HOW DEVELOPMENT WORKS IN THE
CITY, TO ENSURE THAT BIG
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS COMING OUT
OF THE PANDEMIC BENEFIT
COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS
AND NOT JUST DEVELOPERS AND THE
WEALTHY, OR WHETHER THAT MEANS
TRYING REALLY TRYING TO TACKLE
THE SEGREGATION INSIDE THE
CITYS SCHOOL SYSTEM.
NEW YORK CITY HAS ONE OF THE
MOST SEGREGATED SCHOOL SYSTEMS
IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS
REMARKABLE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
THE GREAT KIND OF DIVERSITY OF
THE CITY AND THE KIND OF
PROGRESSIVE VALUES OF THE CITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, I THINK,
ARE STARTING TO THINK ABOUT HOW
WE MIGHT TRY TO TACKLE SOME OF
THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS
WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SLAUNCH
INTO OUR REOPENING.
>> AND THIS REOPENING, OF
COURSE, JONATHAN, IS TAKING
PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MAYORS
RACE.
THERES GOING TO BE SOMEBODY NEW
IN CITY HALL AFTER BILL DE
BLASIOS TWO TERMS.
HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THE WAY
THIS CITY LOOKS IN THE YEARS TO
COME, GIVEN THAT WERE COMING
OUT OF A PANDEMIC WITH NEW
LEADERSHIP?
>> IT OBVIOUSLY WILL BE HUGE.
IT WILL BE PROBABLY, OBVIOUSLY,
NOT QUITE FAIR TO SAY THE SINGLE
MOST DEFINING FACT, BECAUSE I DO
THINK THAT THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE
A ROLE TO PLAY IN WHAT HAPPENS
WITH THE CITY.
BUT THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT NEW YORK CITY
COMING OUT OF THE ROUGH 70s.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT ED KOCH AND
WHAT A HUGE FACTOR HE WAS IN
REBIRTH AND REIMAGINING OF THE
CITY OR THINK ABOUT MICHAEL
BLOOMBERG COMING OUT OF 9/11 AND
LIFTING THE CITY OUT OF THAT
CRISIS.
SO CERTAINLY THE MAYOR COMING
OUT OF A CRISIS LIKE THIS IS A
LARGER FIGURE.
NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE
DECISIONS THAT HE OR SHE MAKES,
BUT IN TERMS OF THE KIND OF
IMAGE THEY PROJECT FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR IS ALSO KIND
OF A MASCOT IN SOME WAYS.
>> YEAH, NEW YORKERS ARE SO
GRATEFUL, ESPECIALLY NOW MORE
THAN EVER, FOR SOME OF THE
THINGS WE TOOK FOR GRANTED.
HAPPY LIFE IS RETURNING, BUT
ALSO ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT
LIFE LOOKS LIKE.
FASCINATING PIECE IN "THE NEW
YORK TIMES," EVERYONE SHOULD
READ IT.
JONATHAN MALLER, THANKS SO MUCH.
>> IT IS SO INTERESTING.
A GREAT, GREAT PIECE TO READ.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN JUST
DIFFERENT ERAS OF NEW YORK CITY.
MY GOSH, IN THE 70s, IT WAS
LIKE A SCENE OUT OF A MAD MAX
MOVIE AND A LOT OF PLACE SS, THE
80s WERE TOUGH, ESPECIALLY THE
LATE 80s, EARLY OTHS90s.
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE GROWN UP IN NEW
YORK CITY WITH FALLING CRIME
NUMBERS OVER THE PAST TWO
DECADES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED
SOMETHING VERY NEW OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO, WITH CRIME RATES
YEAR OR SO, WITH CRIME RATES
GOING UP AND NEW YORK BEING NOT
ONLY ON THE TIP OF THE SPEAR,
BUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF INTO
IT, NEW YORK TOOK THE BRUNT OF
THAT CRISIS OF ANY AMERICAN
CITY.
CHRISTINA, TELL ME, FIRST OF
ALL, YOURE A NEW YORKER.
TELL ME HOW NEW YORK IS COMING
ALONG AND WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE
NEW YORK TO GO?
>> FIRST THINGS FIRST, JOE.
FIRSTLY, GO, METS.
SECONDLY, NEW YORK, WERE
STRUGGLING.
WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY
CONTENTIOUS, NARROW RACE.
WE HAD EIGHT SERIOUS CANDIDATES
AND QUITE A FEW OTHERS WE HAVE
TWO-THIRDS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL
THAT WILL TURN OVER.
WE HAVE MANHATTAN D.A.S RACES.
THE CONTROLLER.
SO WE HAVE A LOT ON THE BALLOT
ON JUNE 22nd FOR THE NEW YORKERS
OUT THERE WHO ARE WATCHING.
DONT FORGET TO VOTE ON JUNE
22nd.
EARLY VOTING STARTS TOMORROW.
WE KNOW SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE
SHUTTERED.
THERES ECONOMIC DESPERATION FOR
PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES.
SADLY, THATS LED TO INCREASES
IN PETTY CRIME AND VIOLENT CRIME
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
THE NEXT MAYOR HAS HIS OR HER
WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM QUITE
EXTENSIVELY.
I HOPE WE DONT GO BACK TO
NORMAL.
WEVE PAID A LOT OF MONEY
DELIVERING THESE CITIES.
BUT THE INEQUITY IN NEW YORK WAS
ASTOUNDING AND IT WAS GETTING
WORSE.
NOT JUST IN EDUCATION, BUT ALL
ACROSS BOARD.
HOME OWNERSHIP RENTING, YOU NAME
IT.
SO IM HOPING WHEN WE COME BACK
AND OUR NEXT SERIES OF LEADERS
WHO ARE BILGTUILDING THIS CITY B
WITH OUR ASSISTANCE OF ALMOST 9
MILLION PEOPLE, WELL REALIZE
THAT CERTAIN SYSTEMS JUST
WERENT WORKING AND REIMAGINE
HAVE&HAVE A MORE CREATIVE VISION
OF WHAT THIS CITY CAN LOOK LIKE
IN MEDICINE MORE INCLUSIVE WAY.
>> AND HOUSING, TOO.
AND YOU TOUCHED ON IT.
IT REALLY GOT TO A POINT WHERE
IT WAS HARD FOR YOUNG AMERICANS
WHO WANTED TO COME TO NEW YORK
CITY TO BEGIN THEIR CAREER.
THE HOUSING WAS SO EXPENSIVE.
FOOD, SO EXPENSIVE.
SO MUCH SO EXPENSIVE.
AND JUST OUT OF REACH FOR MOST
AMERICANS.
DONNY DEUTSCH, YOU KNOW WHATS
INTERESTING, AFTER THE 2008
COLLAPSE, WARREN BUFFETT DECIDED
HE WAS GOING TO REINVEST IN A
LOT OF THINGS.
THROW A LOT OF MONEY DOWN, GO
LONG WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE WAS
SCARED TO DEATH AND BUFFETT SAID
SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUVE
GOT TO BE A FOOL TO BET AGAINST
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND ANYTIME YOU DO, YOU LOSE.
I PICKED THAT UP, ANYTIME PEOPLE
ARE RUNNING US DOWN, SAYING,
THIS IS THE END OF THE
INNOCENCE, THIS IS THE END OF
AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AS WE KNOW
IT, I ALWAYS GO BACK TO THAT.
YOUVE GOT TO BE A FOOL TO BET
AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
I BELIEVE WE WILL FIND A WAY.
AND I CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT NEW
YORK CITY.
THE PROSPECTS WERE BLEAK FOR NEW
YORK IN THE WINTER.
I WAS THINKING IT WASNT GOING
TO RETURN.
I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT NEW
YORK WILL NEVER RETURN.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
LIKE THERES ONLY ONE AMERICA,
THERES ONLY ONE NEW YORK CITY.
YOU CAN LOVE IT, YOU CAN HATE
IT, BUT THERES ONLY ONE NEW
YORK.
AND YOU CAN JUST BET ON IT.
>> JOE, YOU NAILED IT.
DONT EVER BET AGAINST NEW YORK.
IT WAS INTERESTING.
ONLY EIGHT MONTHS AGO, EVERYBODY
WAS LIKE, NEW YORK, THEYRE
MOVING TO FLORIDA, BUSINESSES
ARE GOING DOWN THERE,
RESIDENTIAL PRICES ARE DROPPING,
COMMERCIAL PRICES ARE DROPPING,
THATS ALL TURNED AROUND.
NEW YORK IS BACK.
IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU FEEL IT.
THE ONE THING THAT WILL BE AN
INTERESTING QUESTION TO LOOK AT
IS COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN
THAT STILL TODAY, IF YOU GO
AROUND THE PERIMETER OF NEW
YORK, UPPER EAST SIDE, UPPER
WEST SIDE, ITS POPPING.
MIDTOWN, NOT SO MUCH, BECAUSE
PEOPLE STILL ARENT BACK IN
OFFICES.
AND AS COMPANIES WRESTLE WITH
HOW MUCH DO WE MAKE PEOPLE GO
BACK AND LEAVE IT UP TO PEOPLE,
IF PEOPLE ARENT BACK IN
OFFICES, THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT
A LOT OF NEW YORK.
WE STILL HAVE A SIX-MONTH TBD,
BECAUSE NEW YORK NEED THAT REAL
ESTATE FOUNDATION TO WORK FROM A
BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW.
AND BUSINESSES ARE STILL
STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
>> I WILL SAY ONE THING AND
SOFBL
OBVIOUSLY, I FEEL BAD FOR A LOT
OF BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE LOST
MONEY OVER THE PAST YEAR IN THIS
CRISIS.
THAT SAID, THE FACT THAT REAL
ESTATE PRICES HAVE DEVELOPED,
THAT HOMEOWNER PRICES HAVE
DROPPED ACTUALLY MAKES NEW YORK
CITY MORE ACCESSIBLE TO
MORE AMERICANS AND THATS A GOOD
THING, I THINK.
DONNIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING WITH US.
HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.