ALL OF THE FOLKS, UP TO AND
INCLUDING MITCH McCONNELL ARE NOW RUNNING COVER.
NOW RUNNING COVER.
A PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AT NEW
YORK UNIVERSITY.
PROFESSOR, LET ME START WITH YOU
ABOUT THE TYPE OF TOOLS AT
PROPAGANDA AND THE RESIDENCES.
IT IS NOT LIKE WANT RIGHT WING
PROPAGANDA ABOUT JANUARY 6
ORIGINATED AS RUSSIAN
DISINFORMATION BUT THEY FOUND
EACH OTHER AS AN ANSWER HERE.
THE WAY THAT WE ARE WATCHING
PROPAGANDA SHAPE THE SENSE OF
REALITY AMONG A LITTLE LESS THAN
HALF OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.
PROFESSOR.
ARE YOU THERE? >> YES.
>> YES.
YES.
>> I AM REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE
I SEE A CONVERGENCE.
SOME OF THE THROUGH LINES ARE
THE SAME AS THE RIGHT WING
PLAYBOOK FOR 100 YEARS AND WHERE
THE G.O.P. AND RUSSIAN FAR RIGHT
ARE CONVERGING AND THAT LIBERAL
DEMOCRACY IS A FAILED SYSTEM AND
BRINGS CHAOS AND ANARCHY AND YOU
ARE TRYING TO BUILD AN APPETITE
FOR AUTHORITARIAN RULE.
WE HEAR TALK OF BIDEN WANTING TO
IMPOSE A DICTATORSHIP AND TAKE
OUR GUNS AWAY AND MAKE US WEAR
MASKS AND FORCE FEED CRITICAL
RACE THEORY.
SO, THERE YOU HAVE THE G.O.P. THIS IS WHERE JANUARY 6th
THIS IS WHERE JANUARY 6th
BECOMES AN ACT OF PATRIOTISM.
A RETIRED MILITARY ISSUED A
LETTER WHERE THEY SAID OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WERE
THREATENED AND THE NATION WAS IN
PERIL.
SOME OF IT REMINDS ME OF WHAT I
USED TO SEE IN CHILE BEFORE THE
COUP THERE.
THIS IS ALL CONCERNING AND
PROPAGANDA CONNECTS WITH
VIOLENCE AND IT JUSTIFIES
VIOLENCE.
THE G.O.P. HAS BECOME A FAR
RIGHT PARTY USING DISINFORMATION
AND VIOLENCE AND RENDERS THEM
ACCEPTABLE WAYS OF DOING
POLITICS.
THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
>> YOU KNOW, I IMAGINE THAT WE
HAVE BEEN THROUGH PARTS OF THE
BROAD COALITION SPECTRUM OF THE
CENTER-LEFT IN THE U.S., IN THE
U.K.
ONE THING THAT I LEARNED OVER
THE YEARS DOING THAT IS THAT
WHEN PEOPLE START TALKING FALSE
FLAGS MY RADAR GETS VERY
SKEPTICAL.
IN HISTORY THERE HAVE BEEN FALSE
FLAGS.
WHENEVER SOMEONE IS LIKE A FALSE
FLAG, WE HAVE A HIGH BAR FOR
THAT HERE.
WE ARE AT THE FALSE FLAG POINT
OF THE JANUARY 6.
>> WE ARE INDEED AND IT GETS
MORE AND MORE RADICAL BY THE
WAY.
OREGON G.O.P. PUT OUT A
STATEMENT THAT IT WAS A FALSE
FLAG AND WENT SILENT.
SOME OF THE STATE PARTIES SAID
SIMILAR THINGS.
TUCKER CARLSON SAYS IT ON PRIMETIME TABLE, AND THAT IS A
PRIMETIME TABLE, AND THAT IS A
BIG DIFFERENCE.
YOU MENTIONED INSIDE JOBS AND
9/11.
LOOK.
THE OVERLAP IS CLEAR BETWEEN
TUCKER CARLSON AND HOUSE
MEMBERS.
WHEN I SAW PUTIN SPEAK ABOUT
JANUARY 6th I THOUGHT THE
PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA IS DOING HIS
BEST IMPRESSION OF SENATOR RON
JOHNSON.
AND THIS STUFF WORKS.
THE POINT OF PROPAGANDA IS NOT
TO CHANGE ANYONES MINDS BUT TO
GIVE YOUR OWN SIDE A FEELING OF
GOODNESS THAT THE BULK OF THINGS
YOU BELIEVE ARE ALL TRUE.
YOU HAVE 1 IN 4 REPUBLICANS
SAYING A CABALOF PEDOPHILES RUNS
AMERICA.
1 IN 3 THINKS DONALD TRUMP WILL BE BACK AT PRESIDENT IN AUGUST.
BE BACK AT PRESIDENT IN AUGUST.
WHERE DO THEY GET IT FROM?
IT IS DEEPLY WORRYING.
IF WE SAW A DEFEATED PRESIDENT
TALKING ABOUT COMING BACK IN A
FEW MONTHS TIME.
WHAT WOULD WE CALL THAT?
>> RIGHT.
I THINK THE POINT THERE WHICH IS
IMPORTANT, RUTH, THERE IS A
DISTINCTION BETWEEN POLITICAL
MESSAGING IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE
A SALES JOB.
IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE SPIN
AND TELL A HALF TRUTH AND TRY TO
USE RHETORIC IN A WEDGE WAY BUT
IT IS THE SPECIFICITY OF THE
IDEA OF LIBERAL DEMOCRACY ITSELF
AS DECADENT.
THE FRONTAL ASSAULT ON THE
SYSTEM AND THE INTEGRITY THAT WE
ARE SEEING TROTTED OUT AND WORKSHOPPED IN REAL TIME AROUND
WORKSHOPPED IN REAL TIME AROUND
JANUARY 6.
IT WAS PREPARED BY FOUR YEARS OF
THE TRUMP PLAYBOOK.
BUT IT IS WHY IT WASNT A MOMENT
WHERE THEY SAID WE HAVE GONE TOO FAR AND WE ARE THE LAW AND ORDER
FAR AND WE ARE THE LAW AND ORDER
PARTY AND PRO-POLICE.
THEY ARE INTOXICATED WITH THE
LAWLESSNESS.
THIS IS HIGHLY CONCERNING AND
THEY ARE THROWING EVERYTHING AT
THE WALL.
JANUARY 6th.
THERE WAS NO VIOLENCE AND TRUMP
SAID THERE WAS HUGS AND KISSES.
ANTIFA AND NOW THE FBI.
THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
PROPAGANDA TODAY AND 100 YEARS
AGO.
IT USED TO BE LIKE MUSE LYNNY IS
ALWAYS RIGHT.
BUT THE POINT IS ALSO THE
RUSSIAN MODEL OF THE FIRE HOSE
OF FALSE HOOD.
YOU THROW SO MUCH STUFF NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON OR WHAT
KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON OR WHAT
TO BELIEVE.
>> RUTH MENTIONED THE FIRE HOSE
OF LIES.
STEVE BANNON SAID OUR ENEMY IS
NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IT IS THE MEDIA.
TRUMP DOES IT NATURALLY.
COMES TO HIM NATURALLY.
THE REST OF THE REPUBLICANS DO
IT IN A COMPLETELY CYNICAL WAY.
THEY START OFF SAYING THAT WELL,
IT IS ANTIFA, THE LEFT.
AND THEN THEY SAY ACTUALLY IT
WAS OUR PEOPLE BUT THEY WERE
ROWDY PATRIOTS TO QUOTE RON
JOHNSON, TOURISTS TO QUOTE
ANDREW CLYDE AND NOW SAY IT WAS
THE FBI.
SAY THAT YOU BELIEVE ANY OF THE
NONSENSE.
DONT YOU WANT TO HAVE IT
INVESTIGATED?
THE SAME PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST AN
INDEPENDENT COMMISSION TO
INVESTIGATE THE ATTACK THEY COME
UP WITH A NEW THEORY FOR EVERY
DAY.
>> AND THE FINAL POINT IS THEY
VOTED AGAINST THE BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION KNOWING THE HOUSE
COULD ENPANEL A SPECIAL
COMMITTEE.
IT WAS MORE OF A THREAT TO HAVE
A BIPARTISAN COMMISSION THAN