TAKE A LOOK. YEAH, BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING. I WERE LIKE 25 SECONDS AWAY.
LAST NIGHT THE HOUSE COMMITTEE
TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6.
THE INSURRECTION THERE HELD
THEIR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
>> IN PRIME TIME, 2 HOURS,
HEAVILY PRODUCED JOHN TAYLOR IS
THE POLITICAL SCIENCE OF
GEOGRAPHY CHAIR AT UTSA.
HE JOINS US NOW. HE LAST NIGHT
WE TALKED TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING
IN THE VALLEY AND SOME OF THOSE
HEARINGS. LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT
YOU HEARD LAST NIGHT. YURI
INITIAL REACTIONS TO WHAT YOU
SAW. IT WAS FASCINATING TO
WATCH.
>> ALMOST POLITICAL THEATER IN
SOME REGARD SOME. SOME SAID
IT’S LIKE WATER CATERING, HAVE
SOME WERE LIKE BACK IN 1972, TO
73 74. I’M NOT THE SAME THING
YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT 7 IN THE
70’S WATER. K NO BREAK INTO THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
A COVER UP. THIS IS NOTHING
LIKE THAT IS THE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE LAST NIGHT SAID THIS
WAS AN ATTEMPTED COUP D’ETAT.
HIS BY A SITTING PRESIDENT
UNITED STATES. THOSE ARE
INCREDIBLE WORDS TO SAY,
PARTICULARLY FOR OUR COUNTRY’S
POLITICS.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OR WHAT
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU
BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE’S END
GOAL IS HERE BECAUSE THIS IS
CERTAINLY LIKE YOU SAID
SOMETHING THAT WE’VE NEVER SEEN
BEFORE. SOMETHING LIKE THIS
PRODUCED IN PRIME TIME. WE KNOW
THAT THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF
MORE HEARINGS SCHEDULED.
SO WHAT’S THE END GOAL FOR THIS
COMMITTEE?
>> I THINK ULTIMATELY IS TO GET
TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED.
WAS THERE A CONSPIRACY, HOW
MUCH THE CONSPIRACY, HOW FAR TO
GO UP? THEY GO ALL THE WAY UP
TO DONALD TRUMP. NOW WHERE
THERE’S SMOKE. THERE’S FIRE TO
JUST MAYBE THERE THAT THE WHOLE
THING ABOUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
SO-CALLED STOLEN ELECTION.
EVEN TRUMP’S INNER CIRCLE, EVEN
HIS OWN DAUGHTER SAID NO, THAT
WASN’T THE CASE. SO THE IDEA
IS NOW THE COMMITTEE IS GOING
TO BE
RECOMMENDING POTENTIALLY.
NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING
FINDING TO HAVING FINDINGS THAT
SUGGEST A CONSPIRACY OF THE
CONCERT, THE SUGGEST CRIMINAL
ACTIVITY. YOU COULD EASILY SEE
INDICTMENTS THE TO ALL THE WAY
UP TO DONALD TRUMP ON THE OTHER
SIDE, REPUBLICANS WOULD ARGUE,
NO, THIS IS A WITCH HUNT AND
THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT TURNED OUT
TO BE FAIR PLAY GOING TO 23.
IF WE TAKE OVER. BUT DEMOCRATS
ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE IT’S A
WAY TAKE AWAY FROM ISSUES
REALLY TO INFLATION, TO CRIME,
TO, TO CONCERNS ABOUT ABOUT
HIGH HIGH OIL PRICES, THOSE
SORT OF THINGS. AND SO BOTH
SIDES ARE ALREADY CRAFTING
THEIR MESSAGE. THE ISSUE IS,
DID ANYBODY LISTEN LAST NIGHT?
DO YOU GET A SENSE OF THAT?
BECAUSE THERE I MEAN.
OBVIOUSLY OF AKA TRUMP, LIKE
YOU SAID ON CAMERA UNDER OATH
SAYING HER HER, HER FATHER DID
NOT WIN THE ELECTION.
>> AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE
MOST POWERFUL PART FOR ME WERE
THE TAPES OF THE RIOT ITSELF
AND SOME VIDEO THAT WE HAVE NOT
SEEN BEFORE ALONG WITH THE
TESTIMONY OF THE OFFICERS WHO
WERE UNDER ATTACK BY THEIR
FELLOW AMERICANS IN THIS WHOLE
THING. DO YOU THINK THERE’S
SOME REVERBERATIONS THAT ARE
HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THIS?
>> I WOULD SAY YES. I JOKINGLY
SAID HE ALSO TALKED ON THE AIR
NOW, YOU KNOW, TO BE RATHER AN
EASY THANKSGIVING AT THE TRUMP
FAMILY AT MAR-A-LAGO AT THE
VERY LEAST AT THE VERY LEAST.
AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD
A GOOD PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS
MORNING ACTUALLY LAST NIGHT
ESSENTIALLY THIS COUNTY WITH
HIS DAUGHTER SAID ATTACKING HIS
FORMER
ATTORNEY GENERAL. IT’S JUST
IT’S IT’S JUST BEYOND WHAT WE
WOULD NORMALLY TALK ABOUT
POLITICAL SCIENCE TO SAY THE
LEAST, AT LEAST IN THE UNITED
STATES. AND THIS IS WHY IT’S
SO CONCERNING.
>> DID PEOPLE REALLY GET AN
IDEA WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT THE
VIDEO SHOWS FROM WHAT FROM FROM
THE STUFF THAT’S BEEN SHOT SHOW
BEFORE FROM THE TESTIMONY THAT
HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED BEFORE.
IT’S DISCONCERTING AS TO, YOU
KNOW, THE STABILITY OF OUR
DEMOCRACY GOING FORWARD
TUESDAY, WHO’S THE AUDIENCE
FOR THIS?
>> BECAUSE THAT YOU’RE NOT I
DON’T THINK YOU’RE GOING TO
CHANGE A LOT OF MINES
>> ON THE FOR THE FAR RIGHT,
ARE THE FAR-LEFT MEAN WAS IT
FOR FOR MIDDLE AMERICA? IS THAT
WHO THIS PRESENTATION LAST
NIGHT WAS AIMED AT.
>> I’D ARGUE THAT IT’S AIMED AT
THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAY HAVE, IN
FACT, VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP
BUT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT
WHAT HAPPENS ALSO, THOSE PEOPLE
ABLE TO ADOPT THE FOR JOE
BIDEN, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT
NECESSARILY STRONGLY COMMITTED
AND ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
THE COUNTRY. IN OTHER WORDS,
WHAT WE KIND OF JOKE ALERT IS
THE MUSHY MIDDLE. YOU KNOW THAT
THEY ARE THERE THAT THOSE SWING
VOTERS, ESPECIALLY INDEPENDENT
VOTERS, BUT THOSE VOTERS THAT
ARE ARE CONCERNED THAT ARE NOT
GOING TO THAT ARE THE POTENTIAL
TO CHANGE THE MARCH. NO, ABOUT
MAYBE 30% OR SO OF AMERICANS
ARE ARE ARE CONVINCED THAT
ELECTION WAS STOLEN, THAT THE
TRUMP IS ACTUALLY LEGITIMATE.
PRESIDENT. YOU’VE GOT ABOUT
40 TO 45% PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT
THIS IS LIKE. KNOW WHAT WAS THE
CASE AT ALL? AND YOU’VE GOT A
PERSON INTO THEIR LIKE THEY’RE
NOT QUITE SO CERTAIN. SO ME ON
WHAT YOU KNOW, YOU’RE IN FOR
LET ME MAKE UP A LITTLE BIT.
YOU KNOW, YOU CERTAINLY AS A
POLITICAL SCIENTISTS TO STUDY
POLITICS, BUT ALSO THE HISTORY
OF POLITICS. AND I’M I’M JUST
CURIOUS WHAT
>> YOUR TAKE IS ON THE
IMPLICATIONS. THIS COULD HAVE
FOR OUR ENTIRE POLITICAL
SYSTEM, BUT ALSO FOR FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE THERE
ARE CERTAINLY PEOPLE HOPING
THAT HE MAY RUN IN 2024,
OBVIOUSLY, IF THIS GETS TO THE
POINT THAT YOU MENTION
POTENTIALLY INDICTMENTS, THINGS
OF THAT NATURE, THAT’S A
DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT
WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE? IS THIS
EXCUSE ME? WE WERE THERE
ENOUGH.
EVIDENCE PRESENTED LAST NIGHT
TO REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON ANY
POTENTIAL SUPPORT FOR THE
FORMER PRESIDENT.
>> I SAY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT.
LET’S SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER HEARINGS I
KNOW WITH ABOUT 8 OR 9, MORE OF
THEM ARE SO SCHEDULE. YOU KNOW,
LET’S LET’S SEE WHAT OTHER
EVIDENCE COMES THAT NOW, TRUMP
HAS ALREADY CLAIMED THAT THIS
COMMITTEE AS WELL AS
REPUBLICANS TO CLAIM THIS
COMMITTEE IS DESIGNED TO
PREVENT TRUMP FROM RUNNING IN.
24, HE’S BEEN WAITING FOR NOW 2
PLUS YEARS. THE WHOLE THING
ABOUT A STOLEN ELECTION.
NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT LEGACY.
WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY.
THERE’S NOTHING LIKE THIS IN
THE SENSE OF THIS KIND OF
ATTEMPT AT. TO BE BLUNT, SOME
BURNING AN ELECTION AND
ELECTION OUTCOME. I CANNOT AT
LEAST AN HOUR HISTORY. HISTORY
OF OTHER COUNTRIES IS A
DIFFERENT MATTER AND OUR
HISTORY. THERE’S BEEN NOTHING
LIKE THIS IN ANYTHING THAT
MIGHT COME CLOSE WAS 18.
76 TILDEN VERSUS HAYES. AND
THAT CASE, YES, THERE WERE
THERE WERE CONTESTED ELECTORS,
BUT YOU DIDN’T HAVE RIOTS IN
THE STREETS AND YOU DIDN’T HAVE
ATTACKED
THE CAPITOL. YEAH, WE NOT SO
PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER.
THAT’S FOR SURE.
>> JOHN TAYLOR, POLITICAL