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ELIZABETH: TO THE BATTLE TO
REOPEN AS SMALL BUSINESSES ARE
SHUTTING BY THE MILLIONS.
TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE
OUT OF WORK.
NOW THE FACE OF THE REOPEN
MOVEMENT, SHELLEY LUTHER, OWNER
OF A DALLAS HAIR SALON, SENT TO
JAIL FOR STAYING OPEN IN
DEFIANCE OF ORDERS TO SHUT DOWN
IN ORDER TO FEED HER FAMILY.
SHELLEY, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON.
WHAT DID YOU FEEL WHEN THE JUDGE
ON YOUR CASE YOU HAVE GOT TO
APOLOGIZE, ADMIT DISRESPECT TO
THE COURT, WHAT DID YOU FEEL
WHEN HE SAID THAT AND SENT YOU
TO JAIL.
>> I FELT IT WAS COMING THE WAY
HE WAS ACTING THE ENTIRE TIME.
IT DIDN’T SHOCK ME ACTUALLY.
I WAS ALREADY READY.
ELIZABETH: IS YOUR CASE OVER?
IS THERE STILL AN ONGOING
LAWSUIT BY THE CITY OF DALLAS
AGAINST YOU?
>> OH, YES.
IT IS IN THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT
NOW.
IT IS BEING BATTLED, I COULD GO
BACK TO SERVE THE FIVE DAYS THAT
ARE LEFT.
IT IS POSSIBLE.
ELIZABETH: OKAY.
SO YOU WERE ON THE TV SHOW,
"THE VIEW" THIS WEEK, CO-HOST
SONNY HOSTEN ASKED YOU I ASSUME
YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR
STAFF AND CUSTOMERS WERE GETTING
SICK, SINCE THERE IS UP TICK
WITH PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING THE
RULES LIKE YOURSELF.
SO IT SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS
TRYING TO BLAME PEOPLE, SMALL
BUSINESS, WHO WANT TO REOPEN FOR
CAUSING MORE CASES OF COVID.
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
>> I’M NOT SURE WHAT I SAID TO
HER BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CARE ABOUT
EVERYONE AND, IT IS, MUCH MORE
SANITARY IN MY SALON THAN A LOT
OF OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN
ESSENTIAL THE WHOLE TIME BUT
WE’RE TAKING THE PROPER
PRECAUTIONS AND MAKING SURE
WE’RE STAYING AS SAFE AS
POSSIBLE BUT EVERY BUSINESS IS
ESSENTIAL AND SO, IF ONE
BUSINESS IS OPEN, WE ALL SHOULD
BE.
ELIZABETH: SO YOU WERE JUST
BASICALLY SAYING TO THE JUDGE,
LOOK, I GOT TO FEED MY FAMILY,
AND I HAVE WORKERS WHO HAVE
FAMILIES TOO.
WHAT WAS HIS REACTION WHEN YOU
SAID THAT?
>> HE DIDN’T CARE.
HE WAS MORE WORRIED, HE WAS
DEFINITELY MORE WORRIED ABOUT
PUNISHING ME, MAKING ME THE
EXAMPLE.
ELIZABETH: SO WHY, WHY WOULD HE
WANT TO MAKE YOU THE EXAMPLE?
>> I THINK BECAUSE HE GAVE ME A
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND
I DIDN’T FOLLOW IT.
AND SO HE, IT KIND OF RUFFLED
HIS FEATHERS.
ELIZABETH: OKAY.
SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN’T REOPEN
JUST YET BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE
MORE INFECTIONS AND PEOPLE WILL
DIE?
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT?
>> WELL, THERE IS LOTS OF
ESSENTIAL WORKERS BEEN WORKING
THE ENTIRE TIME WHO HAVE NOT
GOTTEN SICK.
I’M TRYING TO WONDER HOW THEY’RE
ALL STILL DOING WELL.
ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN
SHOPPING AND HANGING OUT ELBOW
TO ELBOW IN WALMART, THEY SEEM
TO BE FINE.
BUT IN OUR SALON, WE’RE TAKE WAY
MORE PRECAUTIONS THAN THAT.
SO, IF YOU WANT TO COME INTO THE
SALON, YOU’RE WELCOME.
IF YOU DON’T WANT TO, YOU’RE
WELCOME TO STAY HOME TOO.
IT DOESN’T MATTER TO ME.
ELIZABETH: YOU KNOW, DEMOCRAT
MAXINE WATERS EVEN HAS SOMETHING
TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS.
CONGRESSWOMAN MAXINE WATERS
SAID, QUOTE, PROTESTERS SHOULD
BE ASHAMED OUT THERE TRYING TO
GET THE ECONOMY REOPENED.
SHE SAID THIS ACTUAL QUOTE,
QUOTE, WE DON’T WANT BUSINESSES
OPENED BACK UP, PROTESTS THAT
HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED.
THE PROTESTERS ARE TRYING TO
INTIMIDATE GOVERNORS TO OPEN UP.
WHEN YOU HEAR ELECTED OFFICIALS
TALKING LIKE THAT, SHE IS SAYING
THAT PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN
TRYING TO REOPEN SHOULD BE
ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, WHAT IS YOUR
REACTION?
>> SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF
HERSELF BECAUSE SHE IS STILL
GETTING A PAYCHECK, TELLING
OTHER PEOPLE NOT TO WORK.
ELIZABETH: SO YOU WOULD SAY TO
HER, IF YOU WERE SITTING DOWN
WITH MAXINE WATERS ACROSS THE
TABLE AND SHE SAID THAT TO YOU,
YOU WOULD SAY, YOU SHOULD BE
ASHAMED OF YOURSELF, MAXINE
WATERS, IS THAT IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN HOW CAN YOU SHAME PEOPLE
WHEN YOU DON’T LET THEM WORK,
YOU’RE NOT GIVING THEM ANY
GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, WHAT ARE
WE SUPPOSED TO DO?
ELIZABETH: ALL RIGHT.
SHELLEY LIEUTENANT THEY ARE.
THANKS FOR COMING ON.