NATIONS BEFORE.
WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT AGAIN?
>> WE ARE NOW AT A PLACE WHERE I
THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
ACCOMPLISH.
OF RALLYING THE ALLIES AND
LEADING WHAT I THINK THREE MONTHS AGO WAS MAYBE NOT QUITE
MONTHS AGO WAS MAYBE NOT QUITE
AS COHESIVE OF A POSTURE IF YOU
WILL CAN'T BE OVERSTATED AND WE
GIVE THEM THEIR DUE HERE EVERY
DAY BUT THERE IS COMING FROM
ZELENSKYY AND COMING FROM THE
COUNTRY AND COMING FROM THE
JOURNALISM COMING OUT OF THAT
COUNTRY NOW AN IMPASSE.
RIGHT?
THERE ARE LIMITS TO WHAT WE WILL
DO.
>> YEAH.
TO RICK'S POINT, TO YOUR POINT,
TO RICHARD'S POINT IN THAT TRAIN
STATION, TURN THAT FILM INTO
BLACK AND WHITE AND SUDDENLY
YOU'RE ON A ROCKET RIDE BACK TO
THE 1930s.
YOU ARE WATCHING THE HISTORY
CHANNEL IN REALTIME.
THAT IS PRETTY SHOCKING.
AND I HAVE SEEN THAT REPORTING
FROM RICHARD A COUPLE TIMES AND
IT'S HEART BREAKING.
THE QUESTION WE NEED TO BE
ASKING OURSELVES IN ADDITION TO
RICK'S POINT AND TO PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY'S POINT ABOUT CREATING
A GROUNDSWELL OF PROTEST I THINK
THERE ARE A COUPLE PRACTICAL
ASPECTS TO THIS.
ONE IS CYBER AND PROTECTING UKRAINIAN ELECTRIC GRID.
UKRAINIAN ELECTRIC GRID.
NUMBER TWO IS CREATING THE MONTH
MODALITIES FOR THE UKRAINIANS TO
FIGHT.
THEY WILL.
WE NEED TO FLOW WEAPONS THROUGH
LVIV.
WE HAVE A NATO BORDER THERE.
PUTIN WON'T CROSS A NATO BORDER
IN ANGER.
WE NEED TO GET THE WEAPONS INTO
THE HANDS OF THE UKRAINIANS.
THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN THE BEST
INTELLIGENCE AVAILABLE TO USE
THOSE WEAPONS EFFECTIVELY.
AND I THINK WITHOUT QUESTION
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE
THEM THE MEANS TO RESIST IF GOD
FORBID UKRAINE FALLS.
THEY NEED A GOVERNMENT IN EXILE.
LET'S HOPE ZELENSKYY IS THE
PERSON.
HE TURNED OUT TO BE A
CHARISMATIC LEADER.
WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT PUTTING
BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND WITHOUT
PUTTING A NO-FLY ZONE UP.
THOSE ARE TWO LINES THAT WOULD
BE VERY DANGEROUS TO CROSS.
SHORT OF THAT WE OUGHT TO BE
ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING WE CAN
PRACTICALLY TO HELP UKRAINE.
>> LET ME SHOW YOU THE NATO
SECRETARY-GENERAL'S COMMENTS ON
THE BRUTALITY TODAY.
>> THE RUSSIAN INVASION OF
UKRAINE IS BLATANT VIOLATION OF
INTERNATIONAL LAW, AND WE HAVE
SEEN THE USE OF CLUSTER BOMBS.
WE HAVE SEEN REPORTS OF USE OF
OTHER TYPES OF WEAPONS WHICH
WILL BE IN VIOLATION OF
INTERNATIONAL LAW.
I'LL ALSO WELCOME THE DECISION
BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL
COURT TO OPEN AN INVESTIGATION
INTO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
MAKE SURE THAT PRESIDENT PUTIN
AND THE PRESIDENT OF BELARUS ARE
HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY
DO.
THIS IS BRUTALITY.
THIS IS INHUMANE.
>> IT'S ALSO, ADMIRAL, A STARK
DEPARTURE FROM WHAT WE SAW IN
THE FIRST TWO, THREE DAYS OF THE
WAR.
IT'S A QUESTION I PUTT TO MANY
GUESTS AND WHAT IS MORE
DANGEROUS TO UKRAINE?
A RUSSIAN OPERATION THAT IN THE
MARCH TO KYIV LOOKS NOT TO BE
GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN BUT AN
ONSLAUGHT THAT IN THE VIDEO THAT
THE WORLD CAN SEE IS CLEARLY
BECOMING INCREASINGLY
INDISCRIMINATE AND BRUTAL.
>> INDEED.
YOU HAVE TO JUST RESPECT THE
NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL, FORMER
PRIME MINISTER OF NORWAY.
I KNOW HIM EXTREMELY WELL.
HE SAILS RIGHT AT YOU LIKE A
VIKING PROW.
I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR THE
WAY HE'S FRAMING THIS AND LET'S
USE THE WORD.
THESE ARE WAR CRIMES.
LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE YOU ARE SHOWING.
YOU DO NOT USE ARTILLERY AGAINST
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS LIKE THAT
UNLESS YOU ARE A WAR CRIMINAL.
YOU DON'T ATTEMPT TO DESTROY
NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS UNLESS YOU
ARE A WAR CRIMINAL AND PRECISELY
WHAT THE SECRETARY-GENERAL IS
SAYING.
HE IS CORRECT.
INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT.
LET'S BRING THAT FORWARD.
THAT BECOMES PART OF THE PUBLIC
CONVERSATION.
THAT RICK AND I HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT A MOMENT AGO.
THIS IS UNCONSCIONABLE AND HAVE
GOT TO GET THAT STORY OUT EVEN
MORE DRAMATICALLY AND ALSO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE STORY
INTO RUSSIA WHICH IS DOING
EVERYTHING IT CAN TO BLOCK THESE
IMAGES.
TO AVOID ITS POPULATION SEEING