>>> BUT HIS E-MAILS! DEMOCRATS TODAY DEMANDING THE
WHITE HOUSE TURN OVER EVIDENCE
ON JARED KUSHNER USING
TECHNOLOGY TO AVOID
DOCUMENTATION OF HIS MESSAGES.
INSTEAD OF A PRIVATE SERVER,
IT’S A PRIVATE MESSAGING APP.
KUSHNER DEPLOYING IT TO SECRETLY
TALK WITH AUTOCRATS LIKE THE
SAUDI PRINCE.
SAUDI PRINCE. A CONTROVERSIAL RELATIONSHIP
EXPLORED IN A NEW BOOK BY VICKY
WARD, MY GUEST TONIGHT, THE
AUTHOR OF "KUSHNER INC.,"
EXPLORING HOW SOMEONE AS
ESSENTIAL AS IVANKA TRUMP
PLANNING
PLANNING MANAGED TO AVOID MUELLER’S
INVESTIGATOR SO FAR AS AND
KUSHNER DID IT FOR NINE HOURS
AND SAID HE DIDN’T RELY ON
RUSSIAN FUNDS IN BUSINESS, WHICH
STOKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ELSE
HE GOT FROM RUSSIA.
>> LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.
I DID NOT COLLUDE WITH RUSSIA,
NOR DO I KNOW OF ANYONE ELSE IN
THE CAMPAIGN WHO DID SO.
I HAD NO IMPROPER CONTACTS.
I HAVE NOT RELIED ON RUSSIAN
FUNDS FOR MY BUSINESSES.
>> THAT IVANKA TRUMP ASKED TO
TRAVEL ON AIR FORCE ONE WHEN IT
WASN’T APPROPRIATE, RAISING
QUESTIONS ABOUT NEPOTISM.
A FORMER TRUMP LEGAL ADVISER
SAYS THAT TRUMP’S FORMER
FAMOUSLY TV-OBSESSED LAWYERS
JUST DIDN’T GET IT, THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REGULAR PR
ISSUE AND A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION, NOTING PROBLEMS
ABOUT ADVISERS BECOMING
WITNESSES AND NEW PROBLEMS THAT
WERE CAUSED BASICALLY BY THE
TEAM BEING RECKLESS AND SOME ANY
PRESS SENT.
PRESS SENT. AUTHOR VICKEY WARD JOINS ME NOW
AND NICK ACKERMAN IS HERE NOR
THE LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
I WANT TO GET RIGHT TO IT.
YOU ANALYZE A STORY ABOUT HOW
DONALD TRUMP ASKED AN AIDE TO
HELP FIRE HIS KIDS, BECAUSE HEP
DIDN’T WANT TO DO IT.
>> YES.
>> YES. SO WHEN JOHN KELLY BECAME CHIEF
OF STAFF, THE PRESIDENT SAID,
YOU KNOW, FIND A WAY TO SEND
JARED AND IVANKA HOME, YOU KNOW,
THEY’RE A VULNERABILITY -- YOU
KNOW, THEY’RE MAKING MY
PRESIDENCY VULNERABLE.
PRESIDENCY VULNERABLE. MAKE LIFE SO UNPLEASANT FOR THEM
THAT THEY COME TO ME, YOU KNOW,
AND THEY ASK TO GO HOME.
AND JOHN KELLY DID EXACTLY WHAT
HE WAS ASKED TO DO.
THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE
PRESIDENT AT THE END OF THE DAY
COULDN’T PULL THE TRIGGER.
HIS DAUGHTER IS HIS GREAT
ACHILLES HEEL.
ACHILLES HEEL. >> WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU THAT HE
PUT HIMSELF IN THIS POSITION?
I MEAN, YOU DON’T HAVE TO BRING
YOUR KIDS INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS
IS ONE OF THE THEMES IN THE
BOOK, THAT, YOU KNOW REPUBLICANS
WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO SUPPORT
TRUMP ARE REALLY, REALLY
FRUSTRATED BY THE PRESENCE OF
JARED AND IVANKA IN THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE. I MEAN, MARK CORALLO, THE
SPOKESPERSON FOR TRUMP’S LEGAL
TEAM BRIEFLY WIN MEAN, BASICALLY
QUIT ENTIRELY BECAUSE OF THEM.
IT WAS PRECISELY WHAT YOU SAID,
YOU KNOW, AT THE OPENING OF THIS
SEGMENT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY
KEPT WANDERING IN AND OUT OF THE
MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE
PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT’S
LAWYERS THAT HE HAD TO HIRE ONCE
THIS SPECIAL COUNSEL AND THE
INVESTIGATION WAS UNDERWAY AND
THEY JUST DIDN’T GET --
>> THEY DIDN’T GET IT.
>> THEY DIDN’T GET IT.
>> BUT IN FAIRNESS, NICK.
JARED KUSHNER REPORTEDLY WAS A
BIG PROPONENT OF FIRING JAMES
COMEY.
COMEY. HE SAID THE DEMOCRATS WOULD
EMBRACE IT AND IT WOULD BE A
UNITY MOMENT FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
TRUMP. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS SAGE ADVICE.
>> WHAT GREAT JUDGMENT HE HAS,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> I MEAN, THE ORIGINAL SIN,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> EXACTLY!
>> EXACTLY! HOW RIDICULOUS CAN HE GET?
THAT JUST REALLY PLAYED INTO
WHAT TRUMP REALLY WANTED TO DO
ANYWAY.
ANYWAY. WHAT YOU’RE DESCRIBING IS THE
COMPLETE BREAKUP OF THE
ATTORNEY/CLIENT PRIVILEGE THAT
DONALD TRUMP HAD WITH HIS
LAWYERS.
LAWYERS. >> YES!
>> YES! >> AND DON McGAHN, BY THE WAY,
WAS JUST, I MEAN, EXASPERATED BY
IT.
IT. SAID, IT’S THE BEANANE OF MY
EXISTENCE!
EXISTENCE! >> BECAUSE NOW IF THEY WANT TO
CALL ANY OF THOSE LAWYERS BEFORE
A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, HOW
CAN TRUMP EVEN ASSERT ATTORNEY
SLR
SLR /CLIENT PRIVILEGE, IF ALL OF
THESE THESE THIRDS PARTIES WERE
WALKING IN AND OUT OF THE
CONVERSATION.
CONVERSATION. IF I WERE JERRY NADLER, I WOULD
BE LOOKING AT THAT AS GREAT
EVIDENCE TO PUT IN FRONT OF THE
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. >> I’M CURIOUS IN DRAWING THIS
PORTRAIT WHAT YOU THINK OF THEIR
ACTUAL UNDERSTANDING, IN THEIR
OWN HEARTS, WHEN THEY’RE ALONE,
ABOUT THE ROLE NEPOTISM HAS
PLAYED IN BOTH OF THEIR LIVES.
THE PRIVILEGE THAT THEY HAVE.
HERE THEY ARE, I WANT TO SHOW A
CAMEO THAT THEY DID IN "GOSSIP
GIRL" BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY
HAD OTHER TYPES OF PRIVILEGE.
>> SORRY.
>> SORRY. >> THANK YOU, JARED!
AND THANK YOU, IVANKA FOR
MARRYING JARED AND GIVING
SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO WIN
BACHELOR THIS YEAR.
THIS IS QUITE AN HONOR.
>> HOW DO THEY VIEW THOSE
BENEFITS THEY’VE HAD?
DO THEY GET IT?
>> LOOK, I THINK EVERYTHING
WE’VE SEEN, THE STORY THAT’S
JUST COME OUT TODAY ABOUT THE
E-MAILS AND THE USE OF -- THESE
ARE TWO PEOPLE THAT -- WHO ARE
NAIVE AND RECKLESS, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY SENSE OF
SELF-IMPORTANCE.
SELF-IMPORTANCE. THEY -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE
EXTRAORDINARILY UNAWARE.
EXTRAORDINARILY UNAWARE. THEY ARE DISDAINFUL OF RULES.
THEY THINK THAT RULES ARE FOR
OTHER PEOPLE.
OTHER PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW --
>> HAVE YOU SEEN "STAR WARS"?
>> I HAVE.
>> DO YOU REMEMBER THE LAST
THING LUKE SAYS TO THE EMPEROR
BEFORE THE BIG BATTLE WITH
VADER?
VADER? >> WHAT?
>> WHAT? >> YOUR ARROGANCE IS YOUR
WEAKNESS.
WEAKNESS. >> THERE YOU GO.
I THINK THAT YOU -- I SHOULD
HAVE -- THAT WOULD BE A
BRILLIANT EPIGRAPH FOR MY BOOK.
>> FOR THE PAPERBACK!
>> IS IT LIKE A BLOG YOU CAN
EDIT.
EDIT. PEOPLE DON’T READ ANYMORE.
WE’RE OUT OF TIME, NICK, FINAL
THOUGHT?
THOUGHT? >> BOTTOM LINE?
WHERE DID THEY GET ALL OF THIS?
IT’S FROM THEIR FATHER.
>> EACH OF THEIR FATHERS.
>> THE MONEY OR THE JUDGMENT?
>> BOTH!
>> BOTH! >> I LIKE YOU TWO TOGETHER!
THIS COULD BE A FALLBACK FRIDAY.