i'm going to do my best to set this up and then i'm actually going to break my rule for
the second time of no dudes on sim cast i will break this rule very briefly because i will have
um the guy who's involved with this free speech issue briefly describe and maybe fill in any gaps
where i missed it uh and then we're going to talk about if we think this is right or wrong
or whatever okay so let me do my best to to explain what was going on so um i don't know
if you guys have heard of brendan schaub but he has a pocket he's he's an mma fighter better
than the kid podcast host yeah yeah friends with joe rogan uh what else do you need right
so he is suing somebody he is suing a youtuber um and the youtuber's name is science uh and he's
he's suing him for copyright infringement over over videos of him uh commenting on his podcast
so this is where we're going to talk about and i'm going to have him on he's going to briefly
describe this so we're going to figure out is this a free speech issue is this a is this a fair use
issue or is this like going into a harassment issue i'm being like brendan is thinking this is
harassment for him but i don't know about you guys i have definitely had tons of people talk about me
in their um you know videos i've had people listen to this show other shows that i do i've
had people that will play you know portions or clips of shows that i've done and kind of
come do commentary over them um i personally think it's wrong if you just play an entire episode
like like a straight up copy to me that's like all right yeah that's right people make like 10
hate videos of me every week dude yeah dude really good yeah yeah no there's a video out there
and it's still up there it's this guy that like absolutely hates me and it's titled that star wars
girl's sister died because she made fun of brie larson and it's literally just my entire video
and i don't know if he's talking over it but people told me about it they flagged it i
it's up there i don't care i don't look at it i only found it because i was
i was on a stream with this [ __ ] and i didn't even know he had made those videos about me
because i don't look into that kind of stuff so you're probably gonna have if you want
you're not just like uploading yourself people pretending to be you i i mean
i had people take one of my streams and and i was dressed kind of skimpy because it was halloween
and then they they like they clipped it around and rearranged everything to make it look like
i was being really cringe and like like i was like just a e girl like you know something for
money and then my kid came in the room and they made it look like they they clipped
to make it seem like i was ignoring my kid and then they added subtitles to make it seem like
i was hitting my kid like okay that i would definitely yeah yeah yeah like you would wait
it was uh the grapers did that [ __ ] and then for some reason it got shared by like keemstar
and got like really out there and so then like a bunch of people made
reaction videos to it on youtube so there's like 10 of those out there and like is it worth me even
like trying to get it taken down like because everybody knows it's [ __ ] you know yeah right
like that's [ __ ] up though so you're loving your kid and stuff and changing it yeah yeah it's like
that's what i mean wait that guy hated you because you said something about brie larson
anna yeah oh he he's just hated me for a long time because he made other videos on me like his big
thing is like talking about how big my nose is and i'm like out of everything that's your nose big
if you saw a picture of this dude you would be like you have no room to talk about anyone's looks
homeboy like that's okay well that's always how it goes yeah right quickly i
want to make sure i don't like get too too off topic so this happened um to this guy
and not only that not only is he being sued by by brendan shaw but i think brandon schaub got
his youtube channel to be taken down like taken down preemptively while this is going on and
i'm gonna bring i'm gonna bring him on right now i'm gonna bring on science hello science
welcome welcome um i don't know if i have explained your situation um good enough
if there's anything you want to add if there's anything i missed any more background you want
to give to this situation um my youtube channels are taken down pending the judgment of the lawsuit
which he filed the lawsuit just to get my youtube channels taken down because now we're using
ever were you streaming entire podcast episodes or just using bits and clips no i'd make five minute
videos i'd talk play what he said then make fun of dummy yeah and okay so to me this sounds like
a free a fair use situation this sounds like just freezing it's like what does the dave rubin what
who does dave reuben sam cedar or stephen crowder does this okay you play a clip of them saying
something stupid then you make fun of them and yeah that's fine how long were you like did you
feel like i don't know from his perspective do you think i mean i'm sure you you're not just doing
this about him like i'm sure you're admitting you're commenting on others we filed the 400
for the lawsuit to get my channels taken down so you're filing so he filed a lawsuit because
he didn't want basically he wanted you to stop talking about him on your podcast and stop like
and it's like do you think he was embarrassed of something he said and didn't want it um
highlighted do you think or do you think he just out is out to get you doesn't want you
i've been content doing this for years i think the straw that broke the camel's back was uh
the video of him slipping a chick his number at the super bowl thing he did with mike tyson and
then that's when all the false copyright takedown started happening is he married oh yeah okay
it's when something happens it's bad enough that you're like [ __ ] i need to get this
off the internet then they can start you know but it's really like you have to really want it gone
to pay a lawyer for all that yeah that's a lot well and there's also like i know i've heard some
youtubers talk about it how a lot of youtubers think what they're doing is fair use but it's not
and they're not they don't really know what fair use is but i feel like that actually does sound
like fair use because so many people do that as long as you're not
just playing it like if you play just a clip and then talk about it that is transformative enough
but i think that that would be up to i guess the judge because they know those laws
yeah but this was such filed wrong like every lawyer i talked to he didn't even
list any of the videos in the lawsuit so just your channel in general he's
just like his whole channel i'm doing you here are the um episodes of the fighter and the kid
and then he doesn't give examples of even what i did wrong so like lawyers are telling
me all right obviously this is frivolous he just wanted your youtube channels down
so now we're gonna countersue him it's just a thing that is it just you or other channels too
or no just me he allows other channels that you know there's various that's weird that is weird
without commentary well i bet you they don't they didn't get the video of him yeah really
sounds like it's what it is yeah and there's a whole subreddit the fighter in the kids subreddit
dude you should make another youtube channel and show all of the documents show all of your
receipts which if they're they're filed that's you know legal documentation that is open to everyone
do an entire video showing all of that and explain hey i can't show you guys this clip because it'll
get my channel taken down but this [ __ ] was cheating on his wife well that's not even a video
he took down because that was uh he was doing some well he took down your channel right not
the thing that got a mad well then say that go put the [ __ ] on blast if you took your channel down
wrongly got it like copyright struck and removed [ __ ] that [ __ ] go put them on exactly yeah show
all your receipts on twitter maybe he shouldn't have done that and he wouldn't be in this mess
cameras there's nothing that youtubers hate and you know people online hate than false flagging
and if that guy is false flagging you put him on blast and his career will be done that's true
i had people tell me that too because like i i was in the same boat with the [ __ ] with my kid
i was like i want this down i was so upset that i actually looked in and i got a free consult for a
lawyer and they were like dude it's almost never worth it to do this kind of thing it's going to
cost you a lot of money and then other i had other youtubers telling me like don't don't
do it because it's going to make you look really terrible if you try you just get over it basically
wow jesus yeah that was like an unspoken rule before you don't flag people [ __ ] even if you
don't like the creator you just don't do it just because the way like if they're doxing you or
doxxing your kids like that's like accusing you of something you know what i mean like that's a crime
yeah that you're not doing which it's kind of like and science yeah that's definitely wondering
especially with clearing actually defended you i was looking for the quarterings i don't know
if it was a tweet or something you mentioned in a video but um do you remember what the quartering
study he came to your defense yeah and he's i'm trying to work with h3h3 to start this because
i have to pay for all this by the way because it cost me a lot of money to fight this so yeah
send people to this gofundme i started to pay this lawyer
okay so here's yeah here's the quartering a professional fighter brandon chubb plays
the human punching bag in the octagon but when he gets called out for abusing dmca
to take other people's youtube channels he runs [ __ ] and then he watched it he blocked quartering
wow i don't even know who that is like i have no clue who though brandon schaub or the quartering i
have not i don't know who brendan schaub is either you're not missing anything he's an mma guy he's a
fighter oh yeah yeah that's i don't know have you thought about reaching out to nick rakeda at all
i have no idea who that is so nicada he's a internet well he's a lawyer but he does a
show he covered the kyle rittenhouse trial if you reached out to him and told him about this he'd
probably have you on and like talk about the case and go over it with you
so does anybody have nick rakita's phone number they can maybe shoot him a text and see if he
wants to hop on for a few i mean i can i have his twitter i just have pictures no i i do have
his number but i'm not gonna text him i'll just uh i'll hit him up on twitter i have him on twitter
no i don't well nick usually right now he's with his kids but um they can wait they'll be there
i'm sorry are are his kids being sued right now
i mean he's gotta feed them and he's got a whole litter so
oh little little thing he's got a million kids one second i love it i'll i'll hit him up hit him up
hit him up um but yeah this is this sounds like a he's just upset that you kind of caught him in the
act of like i don't know cheating cheating-esque behaviors and uh well it's not me who caught
him it's the fighter in the kids subreddit they're just all anonymous they don't have
youtube channels there's not a name and a face to it so you can't go after them so he's going after
me but it's whatever he's not funny and science you have um gofundme to help you because you had
like you said you had to hire a lawyer to help you deal with all this [ __ ] so if people are
so inclined and want to help um they can go i guess where can they find this gofundme
uh uh it's just that um unique uh it's okay spelled the way you have it um yeah right there
for the um the hell do you call it without our [ __ ] retain a lawyer we actually have the um
the link in the description below so if anybody wants to grab it just go below and pick it up
every lawyer i ever had was just a va lawyer so just give them to you free i never actually
had to go get a lawyer well this will be an exciting new journey for you i guess
what an exciting journey
and we'll reinstate your channel so yeah i have to get this judgment then my channel will go back up
so basically saying that it's fair use right okay oh god how ridiculous what a pain he just majorly
inconvenienced you and i think he was counting on the fact that you couldn't do anything or fight
back i feel like he's like oh well i'm the i'm the bigger guy so i [ __ ] and i have enough money
and so i can attack this dude and there's probably not that much you can do about it so that's what
he's counting on i think you're definitely right for [ __ ] fighting back absolutely
yeah and that bruises fragile ego like let's all and there have been and this is i think this is
just part of being a public figure unfortunately like people have made videos about me people have
like made videos with flat out like lies about frankly there's somebody who made a video saying
like frank beats me like insane things jesus but yeah this is wow what and it's like it was
to me it was like a small potatoes type person so i was like i'm not gonna
make a big deal of it because anybody could can see it's not something to take seriously
you understand them and said you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] and that's it that's part of being bigger like
i'm not even that big and i have people making hate videos about me like [ __ ] constantly
they just don't like what i have to say and that i say it really loudly i guess yeah and then there
was this um content creator guy named red bar i think maybe he's dead or something but he would
make videos about so many comedians you know and he just that's his thing his business he
was in the business of drama so he might take a small thing he heard or just create flat out lies
uh and he was very funny entertaining he definitely had um a following so it's a
that's the thing is like if you know you're you're being entertaining and that's the thing is like
yeah sometimes it would bother me but it's like you know everyone's it's you know no one's making
me do comedy be a public figure whatever it's like you can get out of of this spotlight if you
want and it just comes with territory and unless you're being doxed or right somebody's got like
pictures of your kids or is like threatening your family or something it's just you gotta
handle it well and this that just because you make content that like oh well people can abuse you
like because you know you make content so you're it's fair game like okay cool that's
kind of [ __ ] yeah whatever it is obnoxious people i find it flattering they had the time
to wait and talk about me well also i feel like in a way it could get you some more exposure too
and then people will be like oh this [ __ ] and then they check out your stuff and they're like oh
this is not at all what i was thinking and then hey you may get some new fans you never know and
occasionally that happens and then a lot of times it's just people that just hate you because they
they've never interacted with you they just hate you because they think they hate you you know what
i mean right yeah i didn't have what's happening with tim pool where people are literally sending
like boxes so scary you see ricada got swatted too yeah the other day
i think amaranth talks about that a lot she would get swatted so regularly that she had
a pretty close relationship with the police yeah they would they would like call her and
be like hey is everything okay and then someone set her [ __ ] house on fire yes
yep they like went to the side they found out where she lived one to the side of thing and
tried to set her house on fire [ __ ] nuts wait just because she looks microphone so like i hate
you i'm gonna set your house on fire i guess yeah wouldn't it be great like remember how amaranth
would sell farts in a jar what if she sold the smoke in a jar from when the guy hit her house
on fire oh my god monetize this oh it was probably yes a jealous guy that wanted to [ __ ] her kind
of some crazy and selfish like i could never have her okay but i know um i know uh science has to
bounce to do his show i just want to say thanks for coming on and and explaining your situation
and if there's anything else you want to say or where people can follow you as of right now places
where you still exist on the internet um shout it out at gerard one on twitter unique entertainment
on youtube and unique on twitch okay awesome well i hope everything goes well i'll definitely be
like you know looking out and seeing what's happening with this because it seems like
pretty [ __ ] up i honestly think that brandon schwab is like is in the wrong here and uh yeah
i i hope you win because this is [ __ ] up thank you all right good luck that's crazy i stay black
i will cry looks down incredibly pale
that's what we do yeah that that sucks i mean like it's very it's very scary to be hit with
a freaking lawsuit and you're like wow i'm in for now tens of thousands of dollars just to
get it get your youtube back and especially if it really is fair use because like i have
heard youtubers talk about that where they're like oh people think it's fair use but it's not
like you don't know what the actual fair use laws are um but if it's it's actually fair
use like then you're just getting [ __ ] over for nothing yeah because someone's pissed off
yeah yes yeah i think he's just salty because he got caught yeah all because he decided to do that
yeah what an idiot what a [ __ ] [ __ ] like yo you're a public figure
in a public place yeah like what are you doing yeah getting drunk
like gone are the days when uh like you know i don't mean to like mostly male comics but like
male comics could go on the road do shows [ __ ] a waitress nobody would ever find out like yeah 90s
are over man like this is everybody everybody's got a phone yeah everybody's already everybody's
videotaping everything they're watching their life through this little screen like yeah that's true