Siddharth: There’s a complaint about India’s youth in general
that they’re very good at announcing problems,
at pointing out problems.
And I won't take names but some of India’s so-called future
some …certain activists who think India should be run differently are very good at pointing out problems
and when asked for solutions they say ‘yeah but there are more problems.’
As somebody who’s been asked this by different people from different walks of life,
do you think there’s a systemic problem with us in accepting solutions
because they are harsh and to extent that point
I have a genuine concern with a lot of people that I see around me
and I think as Indians we need to ask ourselves why this happens,
that in India you go to anybody whose just freshly made a mistake –
it can be a small mistake, he could have stolen ten rupees or it could be a large mistake,
he could have killed someone –
the moment you go and hold his collar and ask him why he did it;
he says ‘you have not been in my shoes. You have not gone through my circumstances.’
For some reason that justifies doing a wrong thing
but if somebody comes and points fingers at problems,
they all join …we all join together and say (In Hindi – ‘yes he is a thief’)
when the truth is we don’t actually stop and look within ourselves.
Is this a systemic problem with this country
because we were discussing earlier about even unhapppy countries like China
being better half that us when it comes to
individual morality and individual responsibility.
So where does India stands in terms of the systemic problem of
‘as long as I do it it’s okay;
as long as somebody else does it, it's a crime.’
Where does that start, where does that stop?
Sadhguru: See, about people making a profession of pointing out problems –
this is becoming a serious problem, okay?
If you try to do anything in this country they want to stop it.
You want to build a dam, there’s a protest,
you want a nuclear project, there’s protest,
thermal project - protest,
windmill - protest;
but everybody wants everything.
In their homes they want all the gadgets – they want twenty-four hours power,
they want everything going –
this is because we are only looking at the problems
and we have not taken up the challenge of creating solutions in our minds
I think this is a kind of a
a pre independence hangover
because –
Mahatma Gandhi brilliantly designed a revolt against the British
not by killing them,
not by shooting at them,
not by bombing installations
but simply by stopping activity -
bandh, hartal, satyagrah came from there –
it was a brilliant device for those days because we were conquered.
But even today if you want to become a leader –
I am just telling you, this is a secret, okay –
suppose you want to become a political leader don’t try to do
don’t try to build a road, build a dam, do this, do that, no;
gather one hundred of your fans and block a highway,
make our lives miserable,
you will become a leader. (Applause)
Yes, unfortunately yes.
You stop the train, you stop the road…, cut the water; cut the electricity;
you will become the leader.
If you make something happen you will get ignored ofcourse.
making the nation go
and making the nation stop are two different kinds of technologies.
Mahatma Gandhi mastered the art of making the nation stop,
and it was contextually the right thing too for those times
because we were being ruled by somebody else.
But we’re still doing the same thing.
State governments are demanding that they must have a right to call for a bandh;
bandh means closure. (Laughs)
I cannot understand how an administration can call for a bandh. (Laughs)
But they are actually saying it's their right to call for a bandh.
Close down something and you will rise in your prominence.
This must change.
We should never identify people who stop something in this country as leaders.
This must be done by all the citizens.
Whoever stops something in this nation should never, ever be our leader.
Whoever makes things happen in this country; he must be the leader, isn't it? (Applause)