You have four girls in two groups there's only two guys that there
apparently are interesting entire club because the place is empty
basically they start to fight and insult each other you know defame each other as
being both sets of prostitutes just to try and capture the guys and take both of them home
Всем привет and welcome back to another episode of the vodka vodcast
with me Conor Clyne this is Tsar Experience and today I'm
shooting from the roof the roof of my apartment my Airbnb apartment here in
the center of Odessa Ukraine as you can see behind me just there is the Black
Sea right over there so this is kind of a magnificent little perk I got with
this apartment actually to climb up through the dormer window over there of
my apartment and then I get this view of the city so pretty pretty sweet I have
to say so that's not why you're here to know exactly where I'm hanging out in
Odessa you're also watching this on a on a delay of course because I'm recording
this in kind of early October mid October almost as you can see the
weather is amazing in Odessa like it's 21 degrees Celsius and it's October and
we're in Ukraine so yeah that gives you an indication but that's not why you're
here you're here because you want to listen to the stories the stories I
started telling you a few episodes of episodes ago I think around this is the
fourth episode now in this series of stories from the first time I went
traveling in Eastern Europe with my sensei my first trip to Eastern Europe I
document that for you guys in episode 9 so you can learn from the mistakes that
I made when I was a newbie here in Eastern Europe at this stage I have a
little bit more experience and I'm traveling with my my friend who doesn't
speak Russian I do at this time to speak some Russian and that kind of
shows you maybe the difference of how things have developed the reason of
course telling all these stories because the one you asked for it when I polled
polled you guys on my social media and also there's something for you to learn
in all of this these anecdotes is not just purely entertainment to listen to
me but if you're planning to travel or you want to be inspired to travel then
this is why I developed this series of stories to kind of help you with that if
you're planning to come to Eastern Europe of course write me a message why not send
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the description in any case so in the last episode I left off in Vinnitsa
Now Vinnitsa is a city in the center west of Ukraine and then the next city on our
itinerary on this 12-day incredible rampage through Romania ... just
Bucharest basically Moldova northern Moldova through Ukraine is the
capital Kiev or Kyiv in the center of north center of Ukraine on the Dnieper
River my friend of course had never been Eastern Europe before to give you more of
a kind of an overview of what's going on politically in the country of course
this is just after the EuroMaidan revolution in 2014 and there were
still this is like in April so they protests well they were victorious
basically against the the incumbent president at the time Viktor Yanukovych
in late February 2014 and we're going there two months afterwards now Maidan
which is probably just synonymous with the revolutions either the Orange
Revolution in 2004 or the later EuroMaidan revolution is the central square
it's like victory square in the centre of Kiev and that was actually still more
or less occupied by the protesters are commonly well not all the protester
obviously most of them have left but there were definitely still factions and they
were there organized and they actually controlled access to to the
square now you could go in by metro of course but for example at night when the
metros was closed they actually controlled and controlled the central square Maidan
square so we arrived in Kiev and I guess to give you an overview and they'll give
you a little bit more of a taste of what it was like basically even people from Kiev
have been scared to go to the center of Kiev of the city during the protests
just because of course there's a risk I mean a hundred people more than 100
people were killed during the protests and I had been there I'm gonna
that of course in another future episode of the vodcast what was actually like to
be on the square itself during the the revolution I was there on two occasions
in December 2013 and February 2014 now the one thing that was really
noticeable was the cost of rent in the center because of course no tourists
were coming to Kiev at the time and it was incredibly cheap I remember in
taking a two-bedroom apartments with a jacuzzi for like 20 euros and was
even less 20 was probably 20 US dollars per night in a capital of where that
normally costs at before the revolution it cost probably a hundred so
it was like 20 percent of the price that's a good tip you if you go to
places that are in civil strife or some sort of conflict it is noticeably
cheaper in places where normally there would be international visitors that's
tip number one from today's video that you got out of it that's one reason to
go of course during the revolution there were security risks people were killed not
saying that you shoud go there just because it was it was cheaper and even after the
revolution when everything is safe it was still incredibly cheap compared to
what it had been before it was more or less the same price there was still no
international visitors and even local people were in Kiev we're still not coming to
the center because they were worried about these militias that were
controlling the square so we arrived and basically it's in the aftermath there's
still the barricades for my friend about him in there was really obviously
interesting to see the aftermath they had a lot of memorials at that stage
obviously the people who died along the street leading up to the Parliament also
on the square on Maidan so we went and we saw I mean I saw that
again really interesting what we what we did is we went out to Yanukovych his
former residence which is just a little bit in the north of Kiev along the river
along the river Dnipro and at the time it's like ... obviously they had ...
the government had been replaced there was a new interim government but there
was still a lot of small areas of the city still controlled by them by
militant groups or paramilitary groups for example Maidan but also actually his
former residence so we actually took a marshutka up there got to his residence
I think we got to the village where it's out and then we took a taxi on today
this is a museum so I really encourage you to go and see it if you're
Kyiv but at the time we weren't really sure what we're gonna find we got there and the
first thing that struck me when we got there was people were selling us maps
yes maps to Yanukovych's residence I was thinking why would we need a map we're
just gonna see the guy's house right I realized after we started walking around
why we needed them up it was it was like a how to say a royal country residence
basically it was enormous the thing stretched on we never got to the end of
it never mind the map thing like just we got lost almost and remember the
ostriches because he was famous for having ostriches and they were there and
then there was this like incredibly gaudy I guess a barbecue I don't know
what you call is like a marble kind of barbecue stand but the thing was like how
did four five meters I don't know you can see it probably online it was enormous
and pretty gaudy and then they had a boat a barge full of expensive or ornate
porcelain or not even but just like silverware and other things that were in
the house like decoration or he didn't have particularly good taste in
my opinion Yanukovych another reason for him to be gone and of course how he got
the money for all this well yeah not through normal channels probably I guess
through some sort of corruption since he was able to of course make this in
excess largely in excess way in excess of his of course official salary
whatever you supposed to be making so we get there we walk around it was really
interesting that it was controlled by these paramilitary groups and they were
there they had guns slung over their shoulder but no one had looted any of
this stuff this is what really struck me about the aftermath of the revolution
what we found there same on Maidan the shops I think there was one building
maybe that hadn't been smashed the glass had been smashed maybe but like really like
none of the buildings had been looted people hadn't like ripped up stuff and
tried to steal it or anything like that it was really really impressive actually
that was the spirit of changing the country and getting rid of Yanukovych
had lot of people been opportunistic and just becoming thieves like the guys they
were trying to throw out ... so that was really really fascinating especially at this
palace and to see chat too to the paramilitaries who were there and
just see that these guys they must have been like I assume they didn't have any
money but they same time weren't willing to steal any of the stuff that was there
that Yanukovych left him today you can assume see it in his ... which is now a museum
out of his former former residence that was really interesting to observe how
disciplined they were in the aftermath now another thing that's always a bit of
a myth about and I think might be interesting for you to hear is the
language thing in Ukraine a lot of the will say pro-Russian media always
painted this is kind of like oppressing Russian speakers but one thing I
observed when I was at Maidan and afterwards when these paramilitary
groups were controlling the square still is that Pravy Sektor which is a
Ukrainian nationalist group and was kind of always the boogeyman on pro-Russian
media at the time they spoke to each other in Russian yeah the Ukraine -
nationalists were speaking Russian so the whole idea that this was a huge
language issue and was also in the Western media ... language is
so important if they everybody has to speak Ukrainian even the Ukrainian
extremists not all of them I assume but a lot of them who were from
Russian-speaking families or backgrounds they spoke in Russian to each other for
goodness sake so it was also interesting for me to observe in the aftermath
not just during the revolution itself so we we did this tour
I actually had some meetings because ... diplomatic meetings actually with some
EU officials at the time so it took a night off from all the craziness we'll
be doing obviously on the trip and the way they're taking in the atmosphere of
post-revolution Ukraine for my friend of course it was really really fascinating
to arrive and see all this and actually not be really in danger because
obviously it's over to a certain extent and then we went out and we went to
party obviously in the evening I think it was like later in few days later in
the week because took a night or two off to recuperate a little bit I definitely
needed it after Vinnitsa and we decided to go out to a club that is a club I
would not normally go to it's called Sorry Babushka it's kind of a more
traditional I guess a little bit more Soviet style club and as I was saying no
one like local people in Kiev were still scared to come to the center of the city
so there was no one it was bloody empty right so I've told you already that like
coming there during just after the Revolution of course accommodation was
really cheap it was interesting to see what was really going on as opposed to
relying on the media which you know media anywhere is gonna give you a
certain perspective and either it's because they have a personal agenda to
push a lot of the time or a particular political slant or they're just lazy
and they don't really research it properly for you so that's why I always
believe you have the opportunity and you'll see when I talk about why I was
actually on Maidan during the Revolution go and see it for yourself make you make
your own decision your own opinion inform your own opinion based on my personal
experience if you can if you can do that at all that's what I would say and it
was a lot cheaper so we're there it's pretty much an empty
club my friend almost became a victim of a scam some girl apparently the club had
some sort of strip club associated with it and of course some girl started
talking to him who later turned out to be a stripper in the strip club and
ordered some bottle at our table was not outrageously expensive the bottle so I
didn't get too upset about the the misjudgment on that because of course
she just wants to order something she probably gets a percentage and gets a
commission she's not interested in really talking to my friend she's taking
a break from work drink a glass of champagne charging on the bill making
some extra money so another thing for you to what guys to watch out for is
like just always scope out who the person is because you even told us where
she was working afterwards but it wasn't like an outrageous priced bottle like
I've told you guys about in previous videos like four to five hundred euros
nothing like that it was like maybe thirty or forty which is still kind of
mid-range in at the time in Kiev maybe and I have even a little bit cheap
so we're there in the club not much going on we're about to leave because
like there's no real point in hanging out here anymore we'd had dinner which
is also quite common in nightclubs in Ukraine and this is five years ago five
years ago so we had some sushi as I like to say 'tradition Ukrainian food' kind of
because it's so common here and two girls come in they're super excited to
meet my friend we start talking to them, hanging out dancing they go to the - to the
bathroom admittedly for a very long time so I'm there chilling with my buddy at least
these girls ... one of them seems very interested in him I'm not really feeling
much of a vibe there two other girls actually
come in in the meantime remember the club is basically empty all night and
they're also very excited to see us again this is what I'm going to talk
about novelty like if you're traveling somewhere where there's just like I
guess little competition there is like if you went to Kiev today on any given
night there's like tons of foreign guys and just tons of guys in general because
of course now this the situation is back to normal and they also were interested
in hanging out and hooking up with us so I start making out one of the girls the
second group eventually the two other girls came back and they're pretty upset
because I don't know why I mean I wasn't really doing anything with them in the
first place only talking but anyways they get a little bit jealous they
basically tell me yeah those girls are prostitutes you
shouldn't be with them you should come with us we're gonna go to our place you
come with us for my friend I was like no I think I will hang out here my buddy
comes over is it are you gonna come with me oh it's like no I think I'm gonna
stay with my girl here then the second group of girls start
saying those girls over there are prostitutes they're whores you should
come with us and then the four of us go to your place or whatever because we
were obviously sharing 2-bedroom apartment in the center so it was just
like this comical situation when there's like scarcity right you have four girls
in two groups and they both there's only two guys that there apparently are
interesting in the entire club because the place is empty basically they start to
fight and insult each other you know defame each other as being both sets of
prostitutes just to try and capture the guys and take both of them home so this
is something that you should really take out I mean for me it's more a comical
situation we both basically took a girl from each group settled everything we
were fair we were fair and then the two of the two girls who were less pretty of
the ... I guess to be frank lost out but they did make a good effort to try
and wreck the chances of the other girls so that's kind of the I guess the second
lesson that you can take out of this video that I'm talking about it already
in several parts of this series of stories is the fact that if you are more
of a novelty by going to place or less traveled or cities that are in a situation
where it's gonna be less touristic like for example you don't go in the you know
the high season in August to Kiev you maybe go a month or two earlier for
example then it's gonna be a different experience
for you so yeah that's how novelty can really play in your favor if you're
traveling and it doesn't necessarily have to be because we're talking about
dating and girls and stuff like that can be in other situations just the fact
that you know local people are gonna be more open to you and find you more
interesting because you're more of a novelty for them in their situation but
definitely that's the only time we've ever had two groups the two of us have gone
out and there's been two groups of girls fighting literally fighting defaming each
other to see who would win because that's what scarcity does scarcity of supply and as
I talked about in the last episode about Vinnitsa on a Monday night 70 percent
girls here we have I guess it was the yeah it's the same situation
right so you only have two options and there's four people competing so that's
something to bear in mind as you travel as you go pick where you're
gonna go out the sun is setting here in Odessa I'm probably running out of light
very quickly so I'm gonna wrap up this episode of the vodcast a little bit earlier
than I have in the others next leg of the trip is to Kharkov or really things
go and uh go really crazy for us and then back to Kiev if you have been to
Kiev had a similar experience where you were a novelty factor been at a
revolution it doesn't have to be in the former Soviet Union and then let us all know
in the comment section below because that's where building this great
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autumn's the fall evening in Odessa Ukraine I
will see all of you ... of your smiling enthusiastic faces for Eastern Europe in the
next episode of the vodcast or maybe in the middle of the week in my next video
could be a Tip Thursday could be another one of five reasons to date or not to
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до свидания! До побачення! From Odessa, Ukraine!