HOUR.
ALL THE STORIES COMING UP MONDAY
MORNING BUT FIRST THIS TOP STORY
THIS HALF AN HOUR, PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND RUSSIAN PRESIDENT
VLADIMIR PUTIN NOW BOTH ON THE
GROUND IN HELSINKI FINLAND FOR
THE HISTORIC SUMMIT.
HERE NOW IS BILL RICHARDSON,
FORMER AMBASSADOR TO UN, FORMER
NEW MEXICO GOVERNOR AND FORMER
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HIMSELF.
GOVERNOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US.
>> THANK YOU, MARIA.
MARIA: YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD BRING UP WITH
VLADIMIR PUTIN?
>> WELL, I HOPE HE GOES ON THE
OFFENSIVE ON 12 INDICTED RUSSIAN
HACKERS, TRY TO GET THEM
EXTRADITED, IT'S PROBABLY NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN, DON'T INTERFERE
ELECTIONS, MAKE COMMITMENT THAT
YOU NEVER WILL, ANNEXATION OF
CRIMEA, MAYBE ARM'S CONTROL
AGREEMENT THAT RESTART THE ARM'S
CONTROL START TALKS, WE HAVE
5,000 NUCLEAR WEAPON POINTED AT
EACH OTHER, I JUST WANT THE
PRESIDENT TO BE TOUGH WITH
MARIA: HERE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF
HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
DEVIN NUNES JOINING ME
YESTERDAY, SAYS THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAS DONE MORE TO CONFRONT
FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES THAN
ANYBODY, WATCH THIS.
>> I LAUGH ABOUT ALL OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THAT
TRUMP SHOULDN'T MEET WITH PUTIN,
TRUMP HAS DONE MORE ON THE
HIGHEST ISSUES OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT LEVEL POINTING THEM
OUT TO THE EUROPEANS AND THE
THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND
ONLY BY FORCE WILL PUTIN
UNDERSTAND ANYTHING AND WE
SHOULD GIVE THE PRESIDENT ROOM
TO DO THAT.
MARIA: DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO
COME UP, AMBASSADOR?
>> WELL, I THINK ON THE ISSUE OF
ENERGY I WAS HEARING STEVE
FORBES, HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,
WE HAVE TO APPROVE IN OUR OWN
BUREAUCRACY MORE L&G TERMINALS
IF WE WANT TO SELL TO GERMANY,
GERMANY HAS NO CHOICE AND THAT'S
WHY THEY MADE DEAL WITH RUSSIANS
ON NATURAL GAS BECAUSE WE HAVE
I THINK THAT WAS A POSITIVE
START BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF
SNAGS IN THE BUREAUCRACY.
I AGREE THAT THE PRESIDENT
THAT, I JUST WANT HIM TO BE
VERY, VERY STRONG.
THE PROBLEM IS OUR BUREAUCRACY
HIS OWN CABINET, BUT THEN THE
PRESIDENT SEEMS TO LIKE, OKAY,
MY PAL IS PUTIN, WE ARE GOING
MAKE THINGS WORK WELL, THAT'S --
THAT'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENT
CROSS CURRENT THAT'S EXISTING
RIGHT NOW.
MARIA: HERE IS STEVE FORBES.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, GOVERNOR,
AMBASSADOR, STEVE FORBES HERE.
ON THE EUROPEANS ON GAS, WHY
HAVEN'T THEY DONE VERY MUCH IN
APPROVING LOCAL L&G FACILITIES
TO TAKE THE GAS IN, THEY TALK
ABOUT IT, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED,
THEY STILL FEAR THE RUSSIANS, WE
ARE IN THIS CONUNDRUM, THEY FEAR
THE RUSSIANS BUT THEY WON'T MOVE
TO TAKE ALTERNATIVES, THE REAL
BOTTLENECK IS IN EUROPE AND NOT
THE U.S. RIGHT NOW, ISN'T IT?
>> WELL, THERE IS A BOTTLENECK
IN EUROPE, STEVE,IC WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING IS A SHIFT ALL OVER
EUROPE AWAY FROM COAL, AWAY FROM
OWN BUREAUCRACY PROBLEMS, YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BUT, STEVE, WE SHOULD APPROVE
L&G TERMINALS MORE FASTER THAN
WE HAVE.
THE PRESIDENT ISSUED EXECUTIVE
ORDER, THAT'S FINE BUT IT STILL
TAKES AGENCIES FOREVER.
I WAS SECRETARY OF ENERGY, IT
TAKES FERK AND THE OTHER
REGULATORY ENTITIES A LONG TIME
TO JUST DEAL WITH THE PAPERWORK
AND DO THE APPROVALS.
MARIA: THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
ROLLING BACK REGULATIONS AND
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PRESIDENT
PUTIN ARRIVED AT THE
PRESIDENTIAL PALACE TO MEET WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT
TWEETED AHEAD OF THIS MEETING
THIS MORNING WITH PUTIN.
PRESIDENT OBAMA THOUGHT CROOKED
HILLARY WAS GOING WIN ELECTION
AND WHEN HE WAS INFORMED ABOUT
RUSSIAN MEDDLING DID NOTHING
DEAL AND WHEN I WON IT BECAME
>> WELL, I THINK THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD STOP BLAMING PRESIDENT
OBAMA AND HILLARY CLINTON AND
FOCUS ON SAYING TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP, YOU CANNOT INTERFERE IN
OUR ELECTIONS AGAIN, I WON A
COMMITMENT AND AS FOR THE 12
RUSSIANS TO BE EXTRADITED.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BUT
IT'S A MATTER OF TONE.
I THINK THE SUMMIT IS ONE
THERE'S NO FRICTION THEN PUTIN
WINS BECAUSE HE GETS ACCEPTANCE
SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.
MARIA: SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, JUST
TO BE CLEAR, YOU ARE HAPPY HE'S
HAVING THIS MEETING, BECAUSE A
LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE LEFT ARE
DEMANDING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
NOT MEET WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP?
>> WELL, I WAS -- I WAS OKAY
WITH THE MEETING UNTIL THE 12
INDICTMENTS, I'M OKAY WITH IT
HAPPENING.
MARIA: 12 INDICTMENTS, HONESTLY,
WE KNEW ABOUT RUSSIA WAS DOING
INDIVIDUALS A YEAR AND A HALF
AGO WHEN DEVIN NUNES AND THE
INTEL COMMITTEE CAME OUT WITH
REPORT, YESTERDAY I SPOKE WITH
CONGRESSMAN JOHN RATCLIFFE WHO
RESPONDED TO DEMANDS FOR NOT
MEETING WITH PUTIN, LISTEN TO
THIS, I HAVE TO GET YOUR
REACTION.
>> THE REAL REASON THAT SENATOR
SCHUMER AND OTHER DEMOCRATS
TOMORROW IS THE SAME REASON THEY
MONTH, THEY'RE AFRAID HE WILL
SUCCEED.
SO NOW I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DEFINITELY AFRAID OF DONALD
TRUMP SITTING DOWN WITH VLADIMIR
PUTIN AND KICKING HOLES IN ALL
OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN
SAYING ABOUT HIM A PUPPET OF
PUTIN AND THE KREMLIN.
MARIA: THERE YOU GO, WHAT'S YOUR
TAKE ABOUT THAT?
>> WELL, THAT'S EXCESSIVE,
THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL.
-- I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THE
ONE-ON-ONE MEETING THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS FIRM, I MEAN, IN
FACT, I FELT THAT IT WAS GOOD
THAT HE HAD SECRETARY POMPEO,
JOHN HUNTSMAN OUR AMBASSADOR,
THEY ARE STRONG PEOPLE TO BE
THERE.
WHAT I DON'T WANT THE PRESIDENT
TO MAKE CONCESSIONS ON
SANCTIONS, ON NATO EXERCISES,
DECEASED AND I WORRY ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT, I THINK THE SUMMIT
WITH KIM JONG UN WAS A POSITIVE
STEP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DID
NOT LIKE THAT CONCESSION ON
BE CANCELED.
MARIA: MARY KISSEL WEIGH IN.
>> I SEEM TO RECALL THAT YOU
WERE A BIG FAN OF APPEASEMENT
WITH NORTH KOREA IN PRIOR
ADMINISTRATIONS, THAT DIDN'T
TURN OUT VERY WELL, WHAT LESSONS
HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM THAT
EXPERIENCE AND HOW DO YOU APPLY
THAT TO THIS MEETING WITH PUTIN?
>> WELL, I NEVER WAS FOR
APPEASEMENT.
AMERICAN PRISONERS OUT, LOOK, I
THINK THE SUMMIT WITH KIM JONG
UN WAS THE RIGHT STEP BECAUSE
NEGOTIATING WITH NORTH KOREA
FROM THE BOTTOM UP DIDN'T WORK,
I ADMIT THAT, SO YOU TAKE A
GAMBLE WITH THE PRESIDENT GOING
FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM, I
THINK TENSIONS HAVE LESSONED,
MARY, BUT LOOK AT THE RESULTS,
THE NORTH KOREANS HAVE NOT DONE
ANYTHING TO CURB NUCLEAR WEAPONS
SOLDIERS FROM THE KOREAN WAR
THEY ARE JUST PROMOTING
CONCESSION ON MILTS --
MILITARIES WITH SOUTH KOREA.
I JUST WANT MEAT ON THE BONE NOT
JUST BLAND STATEMENTS.