>>> I FELT LIKE PROXIMITY TO MY FATHER AND TO THE WHITE HOUSE
AND WITH MY HUSBAND TAKING SUCH AN INFLUENTIAL ROLE IN THE SUCH
AN INFLUENTIAL ROLE IN THE ADMINISTRATION, I DIDNT WANT TO
ALSO BE RUNNING A BUSINESS.
SO I PUT IT INTO TRUST.
I HAVE INDEPENDENT TRUSTEES. I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF I HAD NOT
COME TO WASHINGTON, D.C. AND IF
I WAS IN NEW YORK GROWING MY
BUSINESS, I WOULD BE DOING FAR BETTER THAN BY PLACING THE FAR
BETTER THAN BY PLACING THE RESTRICTIONS I HAVE PLACED ON MY
TEAM.
>> WELL, DESPITE THAT RIGHT
THERE, IVANKA TRUMP AND JARED KUSHNER, TWO SENIOR ADVISERS IN
THIS WHITE HOUSE, SEEM TO BE
DOING FINE.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTING
THE COUPLE EARNED AT LEAST $82 MILLION IN OUTSIDE INCOME
LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR. THEIR FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORMS
WERE RELEASED LATE LAST NIGHT BY
THE WHITE HOUSE, PART OF A WHOLE BATCH THAT WERE RELEASED WHILELE
BATCH THAT WERE RELEASED WHILE OUR ATTENTION ADMITTEDLY WAS ON
SINGAPORE AND THE SUMMIT
MEETING.
MEETING.
THESE FORMS BREAK DOWN WHERE ALL THE MONEY CAME FROM.WN WHERE ALL
THE MONEY CAME FROM. IVANKA MADE NEARLY $4 MILLION
FROM HER STAKE IN THE TRUMP
INTERNATIONAL HOTEL IN
WASHINGTON, D.C., FOR EXAMPLE.
$2 MILLION FROM A TRUMP
ORGANIZATION SEVERANCE.
MORE THAN $5 MILLION FROM HER
CLOTHING BRAND.
JARED KUSHNER MADE AT LEAST
$5 MILLION ALONE FROM A NEW JERSEY PROPERTY BOUGHT BYEW
JERSEY PROPERTY BOUGHT BY KUSHNER COMPANY LAST YEAR.
AND AS THEY SAY, THERES A LOT
MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT TONIGHT,
RACHEL ABRAMS, A PULITZER
PRIZE-WINNING BUSINESS REPORTER
WITH "THE NEW YORK TIMES."
THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS TO GO
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS.
AS YOU SAT DOWN, I WAS SAYING WE
GET TO WORK WITH A FORMER WHITE HOUSE AIDE EVERY DAY, NICOLLETE
HOUSE AIDE EVERY DAY, NICOLLE WALLACE, WHO WORKED FOR 43.
IM PRETTY SURE SHE DIDNT MAKE
NO $82 MILLION IN HER FIRST YEAR
AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
BUT ALSO SHE DIDNT HAVE THE,
YOU COULD CALL IT CALL IT A SIDE
PREEXISTING CONDITION OF GREAT
WEALTH AND A BUSINESS EMPIRE
THAT THESE TWO HAD COMING IN.
>> YEAH, I THINK WHATS CLEAR IS
THAT THEYRE CLEARLY MAKING
MONEY OFF BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF
THE ROLES AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
BUT THE QUESTION PEOPLE WANT TO
KNOW ARE THEY MAKING MONEY IN AN
INAPPROPRIATE WAY, TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF POSITIONS IN THE
WHITE HOUSE?
WHITE HOUSE?
ARE THEY USING THE WHITE HOUSE
AS A QVC FOR IVANKA TRUMP SHOES OR HANDBAGS. IVANKA TRUMP SHOES
OR HANDBAGS. WHAT THE NUMBERS DONT TELL US
IF $WHETHER THEY HAVE BEEN
BUMPED UP BY THE PLATFORM IN THE
WHITE HOUSE?
WHITE HOUSE? WE KNOW THAT THEIR REAL ESTATE
ASSETS INCREASED IN VALUE BY
ABOUT $50 MILLION.
BUT THE INCOME INCREASED BY A
FEW MILLION DOLLARS.
ITS SORT OF DIFFICULT TO GAUGE
HOW EXACTLY SIGNIFICANT THAT IS
WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUESTIONS
THAT ETHICS EXPERTS ARE WORRIED
ABOUT, WHICH IS HOW ARE THEY
BENEFITTING FROM THE ROLES?
IVANKA TRUMP, FOR INSTANCE
EARNED NEARLY $4 MILLION FROM
THE STAKE IN THE OLD POST
OFFICE.
OFFICE.
BUT THATS ON PACE WITH WHAT SHE EARNED ACCORDING TO THEWHAT SHE
EARNED ACCORDING TO THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES LAST YEAR.
WE DONT SEE A SIGNIFICANT
UPTICK IN THAT.
OBVIOUSLY THE OLD POST OFFICE IN
THE WASHINGTON AREA THAT ARE THE
THINGS THAT THE ETHICS PEOPLE
ARE WORRIED ABOUT.
THEYRE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE
STAY THERE TO CURRY FAVOR WITH
HER FATHER.
HER FATHER. MAYBE THEY ARE.
BUT WE TONE HAVE A WHOLISTIC
PICTURE HOW THATS HAPPENING IF
IT IS.
IT IS.
>> WHO IS LEFT TO SEE IF ITS
QUANTIFIABLE OR QUALIFIABLE.
THE RICHARD PAINTER ETHICS GROUP WITH CREW NORM EISEN.THICS GROUP
WITH CREW NORM EISEN. LOOKING AT ONE OF THE PUBLIC
INTERESTS GROUPS LOOKING AT
THAT.
THAT.
DO YOU THINK THAT ROLE IS
FULFILLED AS PEOPLE DIG DOWN AND
SEE IF THEY ARE PROFITING OFF
THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> I DONT THINK THERE IS
ANYTHING ABOUT THE DISCLOSURE
THAT DISCOURAGE THE RICHARD
PAINTERS OF THE WORLD FROM
LOOKING INTO THIS.
THE FACT THAT THESE FOLKS ARE MAKING MONEY OUTSIDE THEIR ROLES
KEEPS THE INTEREST ALIVE IN
FIGURING OUT HOW THEY MIGHT BE
BENEFITTING FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE.
I DONT THINK THE DISCLOSURES
GIVE US ANY DEFINITE ANSWERS
ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ETHICS EXPERTS CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS HOW
EXACTLY THEY BENEFIT.
WHETHER USING THE PLATFORMS TO
PROMOTE THEIR OWN BUSINESS
INTERESTS, WHICH THEY HAVE AT
LEAST BY IVANKA TRUMP FOR
EXAMPLE TAKING -- TAKING STEPS
BACK FROM BUSINESSES, DEREKING
TO BE IN LEADERSHIP ROLE SHE IS
TRYING TO SHOW SHE IS NOT
STEERING THE SHIP IF YOU WILL
FOR BUSINESS THAT IS MITT
BENEFIT HER OR HER HUSBAND
FINANCIALLY.
FINANCIALLY.
>> ILL TAKE ON A HUGELY COMPLICATED TOPIC IN THE NEXT
FEW SECONDS.
FEW SECONDS.
THERE ARE TRUSTS AND TRUSTS.
THE TRUSTS SHE IS TALKING ABOUT
THE IS INCHEST.
>> I DONT KNOW ABOUT SIMPLEST.
BUT THEYRE NOT TOTALLY BLIND IN THE SENSE THAT PREVIOUSBLIND IN
THE SENSE THAT PREVIOUS PRESIDENT -- SHE IS NOT A
PRESIDENT OBVIOUSLY -- HAVE
CHOSEN BLIND TRUSTS.
SHE AND HER FATHER HAVE TRUSTS
WHERE THEY COULD CONCEIVABLY
HAVE OWNERSHIP AND ABILITY TO