CHAFFETZ BOOK.
BRIAN: POWER GRAB.
STEVE: JASON, LET'S TALK TO
YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
RECENTLY A FACEBOOK POST ON
A PAGE THREATENED TO MAKE
PUBLIC A LIST OF ALMOST 100
LOCAL BUSINESSES IN
PITTSBURGH THAT WERE OWNED
BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
APPARENTLY THE PAGE HAS BEEN
TAKEN DOWN.
ALSO, A SIMILAR SOCIAL MEDIA
DRIVEN BOYCOTT WAS DIRECTED
AT ONE OF CONNECTICUT'S MOST
POPULAR PIZZA PARLORS.
FRANK PEP PAY PIZZERIA.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF KIND OF
A POLITICAL MOVEMENT ON THE
LEFT TRYING TO SILENCE
PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THE
PRESIDENT?
>> THEY TRY TO INTIMIDATE
AND SHAME THEM.
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS WENT
OUT FOR A WHEEL.
WILL AND GRACE STARS WANTING
TO PUT TOGETHER LITERALLY A
BLACKLIST GIVE US THE NAMES
OF EVERYBODY WHO IS DONATING
BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHO
WE SHOULDN'T WORK WITH IN
HOLLYWOOD.
IT IS PERVASIVE AND TACTIC
OF THE LEFT.
BRIAN: NEW?
>> NOT NECESSARILY NEW.
IT'S GOING TO HEAT UP INTO
20206789 I WILL TELL YOU
WHAT, CONSERVATIVES, WE JUST
WANT TO RELAX AND BE PART OF
THE FABRIC OF MOTORCYCLE.
WE DON'T WANT THE PROBLEMS
THAT WE JUST KIND OF SHY
AWAY FROM.
THEY KNOW THAT.
THEY PREY UPON IT.
THIS ARE TRYING TO DO THIS
TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE.
AINSLEY: THANKFULLY THE WILL
AND GRACE STARS WALKED IT
BACK A LITTLE BIT.
THEY GOT A LOT OF CRITICISM.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG WHO MOST THE
TIME WE DO NOT AGREE WITH
SHE SAID I'M NOT FOR.
>> THAT WAS THE BLACK LIST
THEY CALLED IT OUT.
SUSAN SARANDON AND WHOOPI
GOLDBERG THEY CALLED IT OUT.
TALK TO PEOPLE LIKE DEAN
CAIN WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS
COUCH MANY TIMES AND OTHER
CELEBRITIES THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT THEY DO.
IT HAPPENS AT THE HOLLYWOOD
LEVEL AND HAPPENS IN
PITTSBURGH AND OTHER PLACES
TOO.
THEY ARE TRYING TO SHAME
PEOPLE.
BRIAN: PEOPLE DON'T
NECESSARILY CHANGE WHO THEY
ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR.
THEY JUST KEEP IT TO
THEMSELVES.
MAKES YOU WONDER DOES ANY
POLL REMOTELY REFLECT WHERE
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE AT?
>> THIS IS WHY ALL OF A
SUDDEN DONALD TRUMP WINS 30
OF THE 50 STATES.
I THINK DONALD TRUMP IS
STRONGER POLITICALLY THAN HE
HAS EVER BEEN BEFORE.
THESE KIND OF TACTICS GOING
AFTER THE AVERAGE PERSON,
RIGHT?
, THE AVERAGE PERSON JUST
FIRES PEOPLE UP.
WHEN THEY GO TRY TO TAKE
YOUR GUNS, WHEN THEY TRY TO
GO DO ALL THIS OTHER STUFF,
IT MOTIVATES THOSE TRUMP
VOTERS TO COME OUT.
BRIAN: DID HE JUST CALL US
AVERAGE?
I THOUGHT I WAS ABOVE
AVERAGE.
>> WELL, WE HAVE GOT ABOVE
AVERAGE AND BELOW AVERAGE.
STEVE: SINCE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT 2020,.
AINSLEY: I'M CHOP LIVER,
TOO.
STEVE: LET'S TALK A LITTLE
BIT SINCE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT 2020.
LET'S TALK ABOUT 2016.
AND ESSENTIALLY THE THEME OF
YOUR BOOK, POWER GRAB, THE
LIBERALS SEEM TO UNDERMINE
TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY IS ABOUT HOW THEY --
PEOPLE ON THE POLITICAL LEFT
ARE TRYING TO INVALIDATE THE
RESULTS OF THE 2016
ELECTION.
>> THERE ARE TACTICS AND
THINGS THAT I THOUGHT -- I
WAS IN CONGRESS 8 AND A HALF
YEARS, CHAIRMAN OF THE
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE USING THE LEVERS OF
GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO NEGATE
THE 2016 ELECTION.
BUT THEN DO THINGS IN THE
2020 THAT THEY SHOULD NEVER
EVER DO.
PART OF IT IS THAT
INTIMIDATION.
PART OF IT IS USING PUBLIC
CHARITIES.
I HOPE YOU GET TO LOOK AT
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
KIM STRASSEL WROTE AN
ARTICLE ABOUT THIS HOW
PUBLIC CHARITIES TO TRY TO
GET THINGS THAT THEY
COULDN'T DO OTHERWISE.
BRIAN: NONPROFITS?
>> NOT FOR PROFIT.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF
TACTICS AND THINGS THAT THEY
DO TO TRY TO CHANGE THE WAY
WE ARE DOING THE ELECTION.
THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
THEY WANT TO MAKE LEGAL.
THEY ARE DOING ALL OF THESE
THINGS AND DOING THEM BEHIND
THE SCENES.
THAT'S WHAT'S SCARY.
STEVE: TELL US ABOUT ONE
THING PEOPLE HAVE NOT HEARD
ABOUT.
>> VOTE HARVESTING.
IF THE DEMOCRATS HAVE THEIR
WAY, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO
GO OUT AND COLLECT
EVERYBODY'S BALLOTS WITHOUT
YOU EVEN HAVE TO GO TO THE
POLL.
YOU CAN SUPPOSEDLY SIGN IT.
BUT THEY WANT TO COLLECT IT.
THEY DID IT IN CALIFORNIA.
THEY TOOK ABOUT 8 SEATS FROM
REPUBLICANS IN CALIFORNIA.
STEVE: THEY PICKED UP THE
VOTES?
>> THEY PICKED UP THE VOTES
AND TURN THEM N MASS.
THEY DID N ARIZONA AND
CALIFORNIA.
AND THEY WANT TO MAKE THIS
LEGAL ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
AINSLEY: WHAT HAPPENS.
>> I THINK JOHN DURHAM, THE
U.S. ATTORNEY, WILL
PROSECUTE MR. McCABE.
THAT'S MY BEST GUESS.
IT'S A GUESS INNOCENT UNTIL
PROVEN GUILTY.
BUT THE HOROWITZ REPORT NOW
A YEAR AND A HALF IN THE
MAKING I THINK WILL BE SOME
OF THE MOST DAMNING EVIDENCE
WE HAVE SEEN ABOUT FISA
ABUSE AND THE ORIGINS OF THE
RUSSIA PROBE.
AINSLEY: ANY MESSAGES FOR
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS?