PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF
THESE LIES FROM THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
AND IN THOSE INTERVIEWS, BOB
WOODWARD REPEATEDLY QUESTIONED
THE PRESIDENT.
REPEATEDLY, ABOUT THE NATIONAL
RECKONING ON RACIAL INJUSTICE.
ON JUNE 3rd, TWO DAYS AFTER
FEDERAL AGENTS FORCIBLY REMOVED
PEACEFUL PROTESTERS FROM
LAFAYETTE SQUARE TO MAKE WAY FOR
TRUMP’S STAGED PHOTO OP OUTSIDE
ST. JOHN’S CHURCH.
TRUMP CALLED WOODWARD TO BOAST
ABOUT HIS, QUOTE, LAW AND ORDER
STANCE
ACCORDING TO "THE WASHINGTON
POST" HE REPORTEDLY SAID, QUOTE,
WE’RE GOING TO GET READY TO SEND
IN THE MILITARY/NATIONAL GUARD,
TO SOME OF THESE POOR BASTARDS
THAT DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE
DOING.
THE POOR RADICAL LEFT.
AND WOODWARD ASKED THE PRESIDENT
ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE IN ANOTHER
INTERVIEW.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WE SHARE
ONE THING IN COMMON, WE’RE
WHITE, PRIVILEGED, WHO -- MY
FATHER WAS A LAWYER AND A JUDGE
IN ILLINOIS, AND WE KNOW WHAT
YOUR DAD DID
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE THAT
THAT PRIVILEGE HAS ISOLATED AND
PUT YOU IN A CAVE, TO A CERTAIN
EXTENT, AS IT PUT ME AND I THINK
LOTS OF WHITE PRIVILEGED PEOPLE
IN A CAVE, AND THAT WE HAVE TO
WORK OUR WAY OUT OF IT TO
UNDERSTAND THE ANGER AND THE
PAIN, PARTICULARLY BLACK PEOPLE
FEEL IN THIS COUNTRY
>> NO.
YOU REALLY DRANK THE KOOL-AID,
DIDN’T YOU
LISTEN TO YOU.
WOW.
NO, I DON’T FEEL THAT AT ALL
>> DURING ANOTHER CONVERSATION
ABOUT RACE ON JULY 8th, TRUMP
COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS LACK OF
SUPPORT AMONG BLACK VOTERS
HE SAID, QUOTE, I’VE DONE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT FOR THE BLACK
COMMUNITY AND HONESTLY I’M NOT
FEELING ANY LOVE
THE TWO SPOKE AGAIN ON JUNE
22nd, MORE IN DEPTH ON RACISM IN
AMERICA.
HERE IS A PORTION OF THAT
DISCUSSION
>> DO YOU THINK THERE IS
SYSTEMIC OR INSTITUTIONAL RACISM
IN THIS COUNTRY?
>> WELL, I THINK THERE IS
EVERYWHERE
I THINK PROBABLY LESS HERE THAN
MOST PLACES OR LESS HERE THAN
MANY PLACES.
>> OKAY, BUT IS IT HERE IN A WAY
THAT IT HAS AN IMPACT ON
PEOPLE’S LIVES
>> I THINK IT IS
IT’S UNFORTUNATE, BUT I THINK IT
IS
>> LET’S BRING IN THE HOST OF
THE JOE MATTISON SHOW.
JOE MATTISON
>> I’M SURECURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YO
THOUGHTS ARE ON THE WOODWARD
TAPES, ESPECIALLY REGARDING
RACE.
>> THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO
MY MIND IS YOU HAVE BOB
WOODWARD, WHO EXPRESSED EMPATHY,
NOT SYMPATHY, BUT EMPATHY, AND
WHAT YOU HAD DONALD TRUMP DO IN
ONE PARAGRAPH, HE ACTUALLY WAS
DISMISSIVE OF BOB WOODWARD, AND
HE TURNED OUT TO BE DISMISSIVE
OF -- AND I’LL USE BOB’S
TITLE -- THE RAGE THAT
AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE FEELING
AND HAVE EXPRESSED ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY.
THIS IS ALSO WHAT’S INTERESTING
IS HE CONTRADICTED HIS ATTORNEY
GENERAL WHO JUST, WHAT, A WEEK
AGO, I BELIEVE, SAID THAT
SYSTEMIC RACISM DOESN’T EXIST IN
THE UNITED STATES.
SO THESE GUYS ARE -- YOU KNOW,
ARE TRYING TO FOOL US AND THEN
THEY WONDER WHY WE ARE SO
SUSPICIOUS OF THINGS LIKE, LET
ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE ARE
LAST TO GET COVID-19 TESTING IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THEY NOW TELL US WE
SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE LINE
TO BE GUINEA PIGS FOR A TRIAL.
IT’LL BE A PERSONAL DECISION
BUT ONE THING, BLACK FOLKS
AREN’T STUPID.
THEY CAN HEAR THIS CLEARLY FROM
WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID
BUT HE CLEARLY WAS DISMISSIVE
AND IF I WERE DISMISSIVE OF YOU,
YOU WOULD TELL ME, JOE, SHOW ME
SOME LOVE.
THE REALITY IS --
>> RIGHT.
>> -- HOW DO YOU GET LOVE IF
YOU’RE DISMISSING PEOPLE’S RAGE?
>> AND, JOE, WE COULD TALK
SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE PRESIDENT
DISMISSED BOB WOODWARD’S
SUGGESTION ABOUT HIS PRIVILEGED
BACKGROUND AS A WHITE MAN WHO
INHERITED THE EQUIVALENT OF
$400 MILLION, BUT AS IT PERTAINS
TO BLACK AMERICANS, MY GOD ALL
YOU HAVE TO DO IS TALK ABOUT
COVID AND THE LIES ABOUT COVID,
BUT IT IS BLACK AMERICANS, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WHO
HAVE SUFFERED DISPROPORTIONATE
GNAT
GNAT -- DISPROPORTIONATELY
BECAUSE OF THIS PLAGUE
IT IS BLACK AMERICANS IN SO MANY
JOBS THAT WE DEPEND ON
IT’S BLACK AMERICANS ON THE
FRONT LINES WHO GOT SICK, WHO
GOT TO THE HOSPITAL, WHO DIED
AND NOW WHO ARE OUT OF WORK
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE LIES
ABOUT COVID.
I’M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THE
LOVE SHOULD COME FROM.
>> WELL, IT OUGHT TO COME FROM,
FIRST OF ALL, BEING HONEST
THAT’S THE FIRST THING
LOOK, WE’RE TWISTING IN THE
WIND
THIS TAPE SAYS IT.
THE REALITY IS, AND BY THE WAY,
YOU MENTIONED WHAT YOUR FATHER
SAID IN REFERENCE TO RICHARD
NIXON.
AND AS YOU WERE TALKING, JOE,
THERE WAS ONE THING THAT WAS
DIFFERENT.
AND THAT WAS THE UNITED STATES
SENATE
WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME SENATORS
IN OFFICE THAT WE HAD BACK THEN
WHEN RICHARD NIXON WAS PRESIDENT
AND THE TAPES REVEALED
THIS SENATE, I HEARD SENATORS
YESTERDAY -- I CAN’T THINK OF
HIS NAME FROM LOUISIANA, WHO
JUST SIMPLY THIS IS -- IT’S
ANOTHER BOOK AND THEY KEPT
TRYING TO SAY, BUT WAIT A
MINUTE, HERE’S THE AUDIO TAPE.
I DON’T KNOW, I HAVEN’T HEARD
IT
LET ME PLAY IT AGAIN
IT’S A DIFFERENT SENATE.
THESE SENATORS ARE PART OF
DONALD TRUMP’S CULT.
THERE IS NO IFS, ANDS, BUTS,
ABOUT IT
AND IF ANYBODY HAS DRANK THE
KOOL-AID, IT’S THE REPUBLICANS
IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
>> JOE MATTISSON THAT IS SUCH A
GREAT POINT.
BECAUSE REPUBLICANS WENT TO
RICHARD NIXON AFTER THE TAPES
CAME OUT AND TOLD HIM HE HAD TO
GO.
>> DIDN’T HAVE THE VOTES,
REMEMBER
>> AND HAVE THE VOTES.
>> HE TOLD HIM, YOU DID NOT HAVE
THE VOTES.
IT’S EITHER, YOU RESIGN OR
YOU’RE GOING TO BE IMPEACHED
I’M SORRY YOU’RE GOING TO BE
IMPEACHED AND FOUND GUILTY
WE FORGET, TRUMP HAS BEEN
IMPEACHED.
>> JOE, AS ALWAYS IT’S GREAT TO
TALK TO YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
I KNOW THERE’S ALWAYS A CONFLICT
WITH YOUR SHOW SO WE’RE REALLY
APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU WERE ABLE
TO MAKE IT THIS MORNING.
IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN,
BUDDY.
>> TWO "MORNING JOE"S.