Deion Sanders was
here earlier with Peter King and Dion's, the one
who started the talk
months ago about a Hall of Fame with in the Hall of Fame. Yeah.
And when Tom Brady, retired last week, we just kind of
spontaneously brought it up and I said, you know what, maybe
there should be. Yeah, something more than just gold
jacket. Put the bust in the room with all the others,
all due respect to mean. If you're a Hall of Famer, you're
a Hall of Famer, but there are certain and you've talked about
it. Yeah. The Her room, the Lawrence, Taylor's of
the world. The guys, who clearly are the best of the best.
Here's Dion with Peter, King, discussing Dion's belief, along
with ours, that there should be a Hall of Fame with in the Hall
of Fame.
How would you
sort of separate if you had your choice in the Hall of
Fame? Would you really want to have a wing of the Hall of
Fame,
Upper Room, an upper room, get him up. And so, how do you
decide who's in it shoot? They decided it was in the game
decided to, you know, who changed the game.
Like, if you just say, okay, so you're going to put alt beside
some of the guys that y'all been putting in the last few
years, you just going to have them sit beside else LT like,
it's cool. You can't you guys can't feel good.
It's tough, but you have a quota.
You shouldn't have to meet a quarter every year, the same
guys in if they ain't that they ain't that that's not right.
Yeah. Because that's what y'all told me, but here's the biggest
issue. How in the world would you decide? Who goes in
the upper room?
You say well, don't you,
you know, whatever. You know who should decide? We should
decide that
y'all need to get out the way and let us decide Up Room.
Y'all have done your thing and I appreciate that. I appreciate
it immensely
as you earn the right to be on that committee to vote the upper.
Room that should be us because when we are together,
we know who ain't got no business in that.
Oh, that's great. That's great. I can listen to that all day.
Awesome, interview by Peter King of Deion Sanders and want
to talk to him. After I like a second, the famous. Let
the Hall of Fame, right, decide. Who's in the upper
room? I think that's great. I haven't thought of that before
you do it. Well, no, yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, I think
there's a lot of those conversations that go on
already where Hall of Famers go. Yeah. I mean, is that why
is he, you know, I played,
Him. He doesn't really we never looked at him as a hall-of-fame
pyre, right? You know, unfortunately, yeah, but
I think Dion makes the right point. That quota is a huge
problem.
You know, they don't do that Major League Baseball, I gotta
have a certain number. Look, I do business. I know it's
a museum. Canton is relevant to the sports world one weekend
out of the year. And that's fine, nothing against cancer.
But without the Hall of Fame, Canton is
just hear something. I hear a city that doesn't have an NFL
team. Yeah, that is like every other place that doesn't have
an NFL team. Yeah, it's got the Hall of Fame. It's
the epicenter of pro football. Ball for one weekend out of
the year.
And so you got to have eight bust. You got to have maximum
Hotel.
Yeah. Stella just gotta have. Yeah. Phil i'j. You can
not a word if there was any houses. They probably word.
Jim watch it watch. It's probably worth. But yeah,
the parade maximum people fans there at the games. You know,
they tie in the games news in the Hall of Fame.
So yeah. And and every year I'm like, and we're gonna get
the names tonight at the new class and there's going to be
a couple where I'm going to be like,
come on, yeah. But I think they have yeah there is a quota
I know every year push him through.
It's a quota. It's become
way too political
you know, as we've discussed
I think we both know little stories about certain guys
behind the scenes where it's like,
yeah they didn't make it but they're not going to take no
for an answer and they're just going to continue to beat down
the media that they know and other players they know to prop
up this conversation until they get in. And I don't, you think
that's right. Either.
You know that's to me what I know best examples here.
Eli Manning well and look Eli Manning supporter line case but
because last name is Manning right now, he's got this media
career and he's Peyton pushing it, right? Dad pushing him
your the voters. Just gonna get like
how many years can you resist? Putting Eli Manning in Rise,
getting it? He and okay, if he gets a shouldn't, get it in
first ballot but you're right. I think that's a guy that you'd
go. It's you look at the numbers
he, you could make the argument, his career winning
percentage is 500, you know. Or is it below? 500? I don't think
it's below. It's like, bear. He had a Like the last game of his
career to go above 500. It was something like that and Shireen
Williams, who's one of the Hall of Fame voters said at one
point late in his career. You know if he hangs around long
enough he's going to torpedo his home Hall of Fame case,
right? Because you know it's not just what you did. That was
good. It's what you did that was bad, right? And if you do
enough
bad, it undermines the good. You don't get it. Yeah, well,
certainly your, right? There's something of that, it does, it
can and can deter if you hang around 200 that doughnut hole
in the middle was career, they had to overcome, right?
Exactly. Right. Yeah, there's that.
But I think there's too many
Cases, where, you know, and again, I'm not going to name
names here and do that, but
you've heard me talk behind the scenes, where some guys get in
the Hall of Fame on a team,
on a defense. Let's just say, and you talk to the other guys
that coach that demons are like, wait, he's in the Hall of
Fame, but this guy that we
thought was the best player on our defense is not. And it's
just like going yet. This guy, he's called everybody in
the world and politicked, everybody in the world and called every
Hall of Famer that gets involved and talking to
the media people.
Well, and it just now, they're in the Hall of Fame. And that's
where it's gone. It seems sideways a little bit over
the last few years, and I know why it frustrates you. Because if
your dad was willing
to play that game, he'd be in be my dad's not playing that
game. Your dad's not. And that's the right way to do it
like, your resume speaks for itself.
I don't need. There's something unseemly, frankly about,
you know, instigating, a political push to try to get
yourself. Some honor, you you deserve it
or you don't. But the problem is
the people who Santa can't take those seats. Take them away
from the people who deserve that. You're given a shot.
I would agree with that.
Right? And I think,
you know, my father is
like us, you know, he's more likely the Hall of Famers are
guys like we don't even discuss. Like it's like, oh
yeah, John Elway. Oh, Lawrence Taylor? Yeah, Reggie White.
Right? That's them.
I don't know if he,
he never viewed himself in that class,
but to your point, then he started to see some people get
in and he's, like, wait there in, you know, you could talk to
anybody in my era and they Yeah, I'm better than that guy,
but I can't believe he's in and whatever. So,
yeah there, that's where it's become a little confusing and
maybe the answer is to what Dion's been saying all along,
is that it just needs to be a special room, where? Okay,
yeah,
they get voted in by the media
boom. Now, the Hall of Famers are a special group of Hall of
Famers votes in weight, does anybody in this class deserve
to be in our
little area here?
I can get behind that. I think there's some logic there, you
know, there were still Be political efforts. Yeah among
that right? But the reality is
and I trust Dion. In this regard he's going to put his
name on that. He knows who belongs and he would be a great
gatekeeper. You know, if one of the upper room Hall of Famers
or one of the lower room Hall of Famers is in the process of
deciding who gets in right?
Is trying to push a friend. Yeah, right. Come on. Come on
you. Let them hash it out. Yeah, among themselves without
anyone else around? Let the football players who the best
of all time, Work It Out Among themselves. What their
Now, these work it out and I know,
they'll know who belongs in. I love that approach. I do to
guys, like Dion and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and Peyton Manning,
they watch the game to a point where
they know who those guys are there following everything,
that's why Dion can speak the to it. The way he can speak to
it as he's, he's a great fan, that watches it all. Know what
else you do. You know what else you do
yet? Televised it.
Yeah, televised it with Dione and Ed Reed Polamalu and all of
the Hall of Famers. Going out, who deserves to be right with
in that upper room, right? And I've said, look
okay, you have your Hall of Fame class.
You could do one member of the upper room,
I like that. I like that. It's less clunky than Hall of Fame
with in the Hall of Fame, right? The upper room,
one a year for 10 years. The first 10 that way and then
maybe do it every other year after that. But you could come
up with a formula and you got to have and then you got to
have an initial
like who are the ones of the Hall of Famers now. Yeah. And
then moving forward, you got to have a Says for, but they'll
just know like, what Tom Brady.
We know it's nobody else,
it's Tom Brady. Now, Peyton Manning, you know, I don't know
what he be in the upper room. I'll let the Hall of Famers.
Figure that out. Oh, come on. Of course, he would case in
the upper room. Yeah, I just want to be, you know, be all right.
Quarterback from the same are I got ya? Like, it should only be
10. Well, you know, okay, I know, but they can be have more
one than Upper Room type of hired, a position and era,
right? And Troy you just said, read and Troy Polamalu. We're
not going to cancel one of them out, right? Because the other
one happens
to be the same, right? As it felt amazing, Peyton.
In the upper room. Yeah, I'm a naughty lie. Well, yeah, well,
I'm not. I mean, no, he's not. I don't mean to be and that's
death. Respect for difference. Well, you're right. But
even if he lies getting a gold jacket,
we're at some point but
Peyton's Upper Room,
Eli's not? Yeah, it's obvious, it's simple and Dion when when
I played, I mean,
if we played the Colts or the Giants, listen, respect for Eli
and all that and, you know, my thoughts. He's one of
the greatest giant quarterback of all time
but it wasn't like playing Peyton.
Paden. Like the whole organization was on edge.
Oh my gosh. It's Peyton.
Hey, we can't do this or he's gonna do that.
We can't show this to early or he's going to check to that.
I mean it was like an inevitable Force. Oh wait,
the Cults, got the ball and they're down by six in the fourth
quarter. It wasn't like, oh I hope we can
stop them. It's just like, man. I hope they go down and score
quick and we have some time left and I didn't get to play
against someone's back up in these situations but it was
like a
he was a force of nature,
you know. It Peyton Manning
and His prime. I, you know, I could argue he's the greatest
I've ever seen in his prime, so he would definitely be Upper
Room. I've actually heard people say they were more
concerned about facing Peyton and facing Tom Brady. Well
I that perspective Korea. Everyone
is scared to death agreed. I think that is the total truth.
My experience. And when I was on teams that played Paden,
and we were on teams that played,
you know, New England was a little bit more about the whole
team and it wasn't just like, you know, Brady at the line of
scrimmage making checks and
Doing in the right play. It was just about man. They do a lot
of things, right? As a football team when we when I was on
Tennessee or Tampa or Denver, and we played Paden,
it was like the most stressful week of the year for D
coordinators and you could tell the secondary guys and
everybody was in a, it was another Stratosphere of stress
and we got a disguise and do all these special things
and that's why Payton was Peyton Manning and they are
the alphas of the alphas. Yeah, I trust them to come up with, who
else? Long's because they know it undermines their own sure
status.
If they let somebody in the upper room who shouldn't be in,
right? Just the way Dion. Explain it was great. It's
great. I could listen to you all day, I could to I'm yeah,
I that guy was I kept waiting for that clip to go on. It's like
I want to hear more integrate explanation. I'm glad Peter
King got into it with him
because it's relevant. Now, the Tom Brady's retired and he
would be in that Upper Room. Yeah. I don't know who all gets
in. That's the thing. They know who gets in. It's just the best
response we know. Yeah. And they know, right. The players
who belong in it. No.
And and it It shouldn't be all that difficult not nearly as
difficult as it is. To draw the line as to who gets in the Hall
of Fame. Three
dozen.
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