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hey Internet we are here with none other than WCC F Tex Keith may of course you
know about WCC F Tech because that's where you get all your leaks Keith
doesn't do that leaking stuff even though everybody in the media hates him
he has apologizes when he walks up but I want to know what he thinks of AMD's
announcement and basically Nvidia stuff so we had 26 t RT x 26 t yes we have
Radeon VII we have urgent Vega 7 Radeon a radiance of its great Radeon 70s and
then we also had third generation risin were you saying expectations met or not
met on well when it comes to risin I was I was pleased to see it in performance
ok see it do something we got a demo it may have been the kind of demo people
come to expect from AMD so multi course and a bench I saw a lot of people on
Twitter asking about single-threaded performance and we don't know that no we
don't but we can also do math and did they mention the actual core count of
that CPU though they didn't but the fact that it is the equal of a core 999 2k
slightly faster got that because he did it had the same number of boxes on
Cinebench and had the same number boxes she held up the chip there was one box
on top so eight cores probably and then of course the entire unit in speculating
that the empty spot is below is for populating for a second date courtship
maybe later maybe I know a lot of people expected that we were we were told we
saw we reported a lot of yeah there was a lot of leaks there was a lot of
speculating not just W just so it went around there was a lot of expectations
for a 16 core part Gordon and I spoke earlier before the event I was skeptical
I told you I didn't think I was going to see it like - but really kind of have a
hard time placing 16 cores 32 threads on a small socket like that with dual
channel memories and limited PCIe lanes what do you think about that part I
think it doesn't necessarily mean I think we'll see an 8-core single-chip
lit but you might see two with six and six maybe I mean maybe there's a
practical limitation to it 16 does seem a little too much for dual-channel to me
but at the same time things don't have to make sense for people to make it well
I mean they just have to buy it well there was a time I remember eight court
ships had quad-channel yeah we're only on the the big socket
and now they're on small even Intel's got it the 9900 k-8 clocks a lot higher
speaking of clocks we saw the scores now we do know they they were very specific
with stating the Intel was running at default right what his default mean
default means and I clarified this with someone later on it means it was done on
a Maximus extreme board same thing I think I used for my testing of the 980
okay they went in and they did disable MCE it answered my question
so they disabled it and I said well by default the BIOS is on or what's on auto
it's not on yeah so is that unfair and they sort of explained that look we
could have picked a different board if we really want to bake this we could
have picked a different board that would perform worse because MCE
would be on and the board might not handle the the VR might not be able to
handle it and we can make it look worse we actually picked something we think is
reasonable for 900k performance now now that we've seen that we saw him run what
do you think about clock speeds on the rise in 3000 I think it's good me on par
with Intel I mean thanks I think I think they can
clearly get clock frequency and here's the thing I don't know if that means
they're gonna stop there so this entire demo that we've been teased there gen
rising fork doesn't mean that you CPU that you get will actually perform there
we know that's the minimum yeah it'll run out so it could be yeah
definitely faster they were very clear that this was not final clock rings
right mod I'll give you my numbers I've documented them just so that I can come
back to them later I'm thinking what we saw today was four six
from the IPC increase okay well I'll pour for six for six
you know that's five or six you're right because you take a 99 GK you do an all
poor without MC e on or on auto for six Keith maybe right well we're at Keith
he's gonna be nerd so drama sir what are your other predictions for final third
gen rising that we're gonna see middle of the year I'm still don't think we're
gonna see a 16 core okay nice still think we're gonna see a cores more six
for six okay price key price yes I'm price uh I
could see him 399 with cooler with cooler with an improved Wraith max okay
Oh wraith max prism - maybe that sounds nice I can't disagree with anything you
said Keith I'm just gonna steal it I'm gonna say the same thing if anybody
asked me what I said that's my personal predictions
that's not our sight that's just me that's case I've been writing desk Keith
okay no that makes a lot of sense and a lot of it I mean if MC is off you're not
getting a 5 gigahertz or four eight out of that 99 okay no so that's actually
very reasonable I think and of course four six is what it can do maybe for the
demo yeah and they I really think they have a lot of clock room I think AMD is
sandbagging and I think they're gonna come out with a knockout punch so when
it comes I yeah I mean I'd like for that yeah I know you guys would in the fewer
is every well consumers because it's like good fights well I mean we all like
we up by parts I use parts always like faster GPU side did you expect that were
you surprised I was hoping for Navi sir to Vega I
think a lot of people were but again forget you put vague on 7 nanometre
maybe and you're getting 16 gigs of HP m2 with a much higher bandwidth double
right devilish oh so to Tara Tara bit turret at night and I think the pricing
at $6.99 is clearly aimed at 2080 well they did show the one slot
admittedly those games we know that Radeon does perform really well compared
to their competition in but it showed parity and the stranger
day that 10 people play it's faster right so there is that they didn't MIT
did you catch any mentions of frequency on that GPU part because it is not well
cuz we saw that it's 60 compute unit so it's less than a Vega 64 but more than a
Vega 56 but they're claiming 25% uplift and performance over a 64 and the same
same power so they're taking our they're taking their savings and efficiency and
seven animator and probably claim you were saying maybe 1800 that was a number
I heard kicking around I don't know if that's an official number but it was the
number that came across my desk I guess you could say were you happy with what
you got as far as a GPS I'd um I was surprised by the design I was surprised
by the design the decision to go in between on the core count yeah I would
have expected a derivative of one of the other but it is clearly based off the mi
65 yeah the instinct car so there my 60 I think my 60 goodness so definitely
came bread and butter from that bloodborne of that card so it'll be
interesting to see out when it's out and it's not very far it's what 699 it comes
out neck less than a month now on the 7th of February so go critic thing there
were you underwhelmed by it I think some people were but I was surprised I
thought the design of it looked good they took that I like to see this move
to open air coolers three fans reminded me a lot of the HD 79928 pin to a pink
connectors yeah 2080 is a six and eight I think it is by stock song it is but
they did say they they were very clear with same power as they mentioned 64 or
56 there's a little difference there yeah so you know I'm sure some people
are gonna be concerned about having turn off an extra light bulb in their house
sure every now and then but would you rather had the same performance at less
power or do you rather have the more performance with a little bit or the
same power I don't know you know actually what I'm very excited to see
and I want to see because there's been a lot of resistance from people about 2080
price $6.99 and you know I'm getting our
checks that doesn't do anything right all these are TX scores Archie quartz
that didn't do anything it so these people at the store they really gonna
live are they gonna really go with that decision they're saying I don't care
about ray-tracing or are they gonna go creatures you might matter I'm gonna do
the 10 at 20 80 instead of the Vegas that's a hard that's a hard one and I
get the argument I do and I'm where I stand on this one I can see both sides
but I think we just saw the free sing cob we cleared up we got to give AMD
still has HDMI freezing right I still own that so TVs doing that that's a
tough one because you do you get the tensor cords you get the the RT cores
and future future gasolin we saw a lot of things for DL SS but we've also
already seen a lot of things for DL SS and a lot of that is coming out further
so you gotta ask yourself do you want to save a little and get a few games how do
you want to pay a little bit more and get that really different experience
because it is you various yes it's if there's an experience there so right so
hmm okay we're gonna let you go cuz annum can't
hold this camera anymore he doesn't have his tripod but amazing folks has not
shaken that camera done a great job so I want to thank Keith W CTF tech comm
awesome site I would say go type go visit the site but you don't even need
to because your phone serves it up to you with every single rumor but I get
sometimes my briefings from WCC F Tech faster than I do from the vendors and
I'm not even keep making that up so I've gotten press briefings I mean like
really got that yeah yes so anyway thanks for coming thank you for having
me Gordon it's been great all right