(game music)
- Eclipse is one object that's in between you
and another object and blocks your view.
So you might think Mitsubishi named their car after that
but nope, it was named after a horse named Eclipz.
If you thought that was boring,
the first Eclipses the clipse, Eclip-sy,
were made in Illinois in a town called Normal.
Yep, Normal.
I wish I was making this (beep) up.
So the Normal horse popped onto the scene in 1990
but not just as a horse, as a Plymouth (beep) laser
and the Eagle talon.
The names of those cars sound like they're
from Napoleon dynamite.
Fast forward to 1994
and we would start seeing in the iconic 2G Eclipse,
made ramus from the danger to manifold warning sign
and nice.
(explosion sound)
This car would have every 16 year old
that enjoys the string perfectly fine cars,
chomping at the bits
to get their grubby little hands on these.
The 1999 Normal horse had an original MSRP
of $23,210.
So you can have that
or you could have 6,650 Quesalupas
from Toto Bobo.
These cars are known for crank log,
and shred tire rush from hell but are they worth it?
Today, we sit down with an owner
and have a good old chat.
Driver...
To driver.
(upbeat music)
Welcome back to another episode of Driver to driver.
Season three or something like that.
Let's see what we got today.
All righty, today we're here at Cheese Curtis.
Cheese, get on the show, come on.
How's it going, man, how you doing?
- Uh, good, good, good, good.
- Not too shabby.
- Yeah, I get to be late to work today 'cause of this-
- Oh, hell yeah this is a great excuse to be late to work.
What do you think of the chair?
Wheels, tires and suspension.
Excuse me for one second.
(rim clangs)
Fitmentindustries.com.
All right, did you flinch?
- I was-
- I mean I'm not gonna hurt you, I'm a good host.
All right, okay.
All right Cheese Curd,
let's not beat around the bush.
How much did you pay for that dooky star motors thing?
- $13,000.
- $13,000, I heard that right?
5 digits.
- 5 digits.
- I thought those cars went for like,
$40 and a case of Busch light, nowadays.
- Yeah, if you want to clap that one.
- Well I mean, all right okay that's fair.
- And $1,000 of it was travel too
so to pick it up, bring it back home.
Oh, you're including that in there.
- Yeah, so...
- You paid $1,000 to go get that?
- Trailer at home, I wasn't gonna-
- Yeah, I wouldn't trust the driving that far, all right.
So there's a lot of cars in the world.
What possessed you to buy one that's like one
of the most notoriously known unreliable cars?
- As much as it is a cliche.
(hands bang)
My first car was the Mitsubishi Eclipse,
fast and the furious.
I was growing up and although then,
it was all about body kits.
I wanted the body kid with the dual exhaust
and the, yes.
And so as I got older,
I bought another one
that had 180,000 miles on it.
- Oh, hell yeah that's mint.
- Yeah, it was terrible
for Minnesota-
- $40 on Busch light.
- Oh my God, it was terrible.
And so I saw this maybe six years ago
and reached out to him and tried to buy it
and he said no. - Oh.
- So I actually bought an Evo instead.
- Damn, oh, so you did have an Evo.
- Yeah, so I had an Evo, I bought an Evo 10.
- Okay. - I had it for six months.
- So not a real Evo but...
- Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.
(Kota mumbles)
And I stretched the valve in it too.
- Oh (beep), you beat the hell out of that thing.
Yeah, so I put that back together
and then after six months-
- You're like too much power and he'd go back to an Eclipse.
- He reached out and asked if I was still interested
and I said, yeah.
And he said, "Well, the price has gone up."
(Kota chuckles)
- This guy can wheel and deal hot damn.
- Yeah, so I said, "Okay, well what is had gotten?"
And rest is history.
- So I got a couple of questions for you.
Have you ever had any dangers to the manifold?
- All the time.
- Okay, did you ever have a floor pan fallout?
- I actually put in new floor pans just the other day.
- Okay, good. - Yes.
- That's good.
Have you ever had a motorcycle gang come up
and shoot the (beep) out of the car
and then have it explode?
- I have had a motorcycle gang come up to me
but at the worst time possible.
I had just served- - Is there ever a good time.
- I mean, it was kind of exciting, I was ready to go
but I had just come out of the Dairy Queen,
which was a little tu-tu.
And, I kkk
and put a hole in my oil cooler.
- Holy (beep)
- Which is like three blocks from my house.
So I was babying it there, like just letting some-
- Probably you would have just pushed it.
- And that's when a bunch of motorcycles all surrounding me.
(Curtis mumbles)
(both laugh)
- They light you up with Uzis.
- All right, good, good, all right.
All right let's keep this party going
and head on to our newest segment Beat Run.
Let's go see if this thing gets shot at by motorcycle gang.
(Curtis chuckles)
(upbeat music)
Give it to daddy.
(engine revs)
All right Curtis let's do this.
I'm like borderline too tall for this.
- And me too that was, I'd have,
I'd actually never sat in a Spider before I bought this.
And I bought it out of North Carolina.
- Yeah.
- And so when I got there
and I sat and then I was like, (beep)
- You went all the way to North Carolina
to get a convertible?
- Yes, sir.
- That's wild.
- You see the, did you see the price tag.
- Yeah, oh yeah.
Seems like she's running pretty smooth.
- Yeah, she feels great, just got new injectors,
new fuel.
(engine revs)
(Kota chuckles)
- She revs.
(engine revs)
Hell yeah, that was sick, your airbag almost flew out
but I thought, you're good.
- It's not attached.
(both laugh)
- Oh, good the air bag isn't attached.
- It's not active.
- Oh, great sounds like I'll just die no matter what.
(both laugh)
- It was terrible, terrible.
- I like the little Mitsubishi pillows,
it comforts my spine.
(both chuckle)
I just, I feel like I'm too tall or too big overall
to be in this thing.
That's fun as Al
(engine revs)
(Kota chuckles)
Ripping.
Right I wanna see if I fit.
Dude, it makes a lot of noises.
(both chuckle)
- Sweet like butter.
- Oh God, oh God, oh...
You know what, you were right.
- Not bad.
- You're right, okay I take back everything I said.
I fit.
All right now that we're back,
let's hear from our cool and loyal...
(Kota screams)
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That MaximaKid wants to cut straight to the point
as a fellow DSM owner I only have one question.
When's the part out?
- As soon as the MK5 comes in a Targa, five speed-
- MK.
- I want the five, I liked the new one
but it has to be stick and it has to come in the Targa,
like they're teasing.
- Okay.
- If that happens.
- Big Targa guy.
- It's just cool, everybody hates the Spider.
I don't get it, it is so much fun.
- I hate spiders, I step on them, I crush them and...
- I don't know, yeah.
- Kalen Gressing has some toggle math questions
and ask since it's a convertible,
does that mean it can hold an infinite amount
of Quesalupas from O'connell?
- I'd imagine, yeah.
- I mean the sky's the limit.
- Yeah, I mean.
- Pop the top pack her up with Quesalupas, yeah okay.
V-tech Camaro is confused probably by the name
but anyways, why did you get a convertible?
- I don't know.
- I don't know either what the (beep).
- I've never had one before.
I was attracted to them,
I always thought it'd be cool to drop the top and I love it.
- Like a sexual attraction or like a...
- You could say that. - Oh, drop the top.
So we got a, I'm Broke asks,
how many fingers am I holding up?
- Ooh, he's broke so probably got a buck.
- A buck.
- $1, one finger.
- There you go, all right, good guess.
M F wants to know how many other DSMs had to die
to create this one.
- I'd say 1 1/2.
- Oh, okay so a little bit of casualties going on.
- Yeah.
So 1 1/2, 1/2 was you're able to rescue it,
so it's still alive.
- So one I tore the GS, the GSX obviously,
it's all wheel drive Spider.
So I have everything from the GSX onto the Eclipse.
- Most spiders are all wheel drive, they have eight legs.
(Curtis chuckles)
- I don't think that's in the math.
- Oh, well I did the math
- And then slowly as I've messed things up
and broke things, I've been to the junk yard,
salvage yard and I'd call 1 1/2 cars for sure.
- Okay, cool.
Luke Marion asks, did you have the carbon hood
to make up for those heavy ass wheels?
(Curtis chuckles)
- You know, they are, they are meant for a big boy car.
- Yeah, that's a little boy car trust me.
- Yeah, it is yeah, yeah.
(Kota mumbles)
- So the carbon hood's actually functional
that's all that heat up.
- Yeah, I mean, it makes up for the heavy ass wheels.
All right, that's enough out of the YouTube community.
It's time for Cars Show Contest.
It has nothing to do with cars at all not even slightly.
Okay, so it's you versus me?
The challenge is whoever can eat the most cinnamon delights
tossed into their mouth, all right.
This is also known as Cinnabon massacre,
challenge level: Expert.
(upbeat music)
- All right, here we go,
so Edgar is going to toss each of us
three cinnabon delights
and we got to try catching them in our mouth.
I'm gonna go first you go second.
Max, give us a countdown.
- [Max] Three, two, one.
- Come on, Edgar.
(upbeat music)
Okay, all right.
All right, we're off to a terrible start.
- It was the throw, the throws.
- Edgar we practiced this is going terrible.
Oh, o-oh, oh God.
(upbeat music)
- Give me a high one.
(Kota mumbles)
- Oh, my God, this time it went for my, oh.
(both laugh)
(both mumble)
- Do I get a prize?
- I'm winning.
- This is so good.
- I'm winning.
Okay, you're right, okay.
Edgar, come here, come here.
- I don't think I've ever had one those.
- Out of us two you're the judge, who won.
(dramatic music)
Think about who won?
Just go over the statistics.
- Edgar.
(dramatic music)
- Who won, who won.
I know, yeah I know, I'm a good host.
- Just today.
- But that was impressive, I'll give you that.
- Edgar get the hell out of here, Jesus.
That was pretty good.
- Thank you.
- You can talk the talk
but can your crank walk the walk?
That is the real question.
So how do you feel about them making an SUV
out of the Eclipse nowadays?
- My God. - Yeah, it's really fucked up.
- I mean, they destroyed it after the third, the 3G.
So, I mean...
- Oh, so wait are you saying the 3Gs are good?
- After the 2G sorry, after the 2G,
they destroyed the car anyway so...
- So you're not mad at this point,
you just accepted it.
Mustangs are SUVs, Eclipses are SUV's, I'm an SUV.
- I mean, the Mustang did worse that's terrible.
- You say that's worse.
- I think so. - Why?
- Hey, Mustang was still alive.
- Yeah. - Eclipse was already dead.
- I guess that's true but I mean, it's kind of like,
beating a dead horse, you know?
All right.
Enough of that monstrosity,
what do you all have done to that Normal horse?
- Everything.
- Yeah, actually speaking of which,
I had to print off three God damn sheets of paper,
just to go,
oh, I don't know what happened on the third one.
And I had to use the smallest font they had.
'Cause all your God damn odds.
- Yeah so fully built long block,
four inch intake, 2 1/2 inch inter-cooler piping,
3 1/2 inch inner cooler, 72 millimeter throttle body intake,
tube rear exhaust, manifold, full exhaust,
6AN, feed and fuel returns,
2200 CC injectors
- [Man] 2000 years later.
- 66, 60 62, 66 ball bearing.
- Six, that's a lot of sixes.
What are you the devil?
- Standalone fuel management system.
- Oh, I know where this guy is going.
- Yeah. - All right.
- No nos though.
- So, but in all reality is all wheel drive.
You got a big old turbo on it,
you gutted the entire interior out.
How, much are you into this God damn thing?
I don't want that anymore.
- Since my wife's gonna watch this probably
we'll say I spent $15,000 all in.
- Oh, that's a dirty lie
but yeah, okay if your wife's watching.
I mean, I feel like with this car,
you could have bought three more Evos.
You could have bought a GSX
- And the thing is, I sold the Evo because I figured,
I would be all in and this one and still make some cash no.
- What kind of brain dead decision was that?
- Yeah, no. - Okay.
- I could add a really nice Evo.
- Yeah.
(both chuckle)
- Oh yeah.
Have you had any issues with the car, you know,
since you got it?
I hope not, since it sounds like,
you've replaced every damn thing.
I mean, you're rolled up and coolant was spilling out
but we don't got to talk about that.
- It just, I don't know why it's weird,
like when I top it off, I get scared
'cause it doesn't have like in the little top part
but it stays cool.
- How often are you topping it off
that might be a problem in it.
- I always do as, well, it just got back from a dyno.
So after dyno session, I just switch out all the fluids.
- Okay, okay. - 'Cause it's scary.
Alternator went out.
- Well, that's not too shabby.
- Two blocks from my house, so...
- Okay, why is everything go to (beep)
like a block from your house.
- Yeah, that's the only time I got stranded with the car
that was two blocks away.
But otherwise, other than that,
it's been pretty reliable.
- That's pretty good
but again, like I said, I mean, yeah,
you put 15 grand into it.
It better be (beep) reliable.
- And that's what my wife says.
- As fast as you can.
I want you to name three pros and three cons
about the 2G go, pros.
- Dead sexy, man, don't, dead sexy.
- Dead sexy. - Dead sexy.
- Dead people sexy.
- Fast.
- Okay, all right, I mean...
- The nostalgic.
- And nostalgic.
- It just holds, everybody, especially nowadays.
I mean, granted, there's some people in the town
that got a couple of Eclipses, which I saw one out front.
- And a clean one, super clean and minty.
- But for the last couple of years,
I've been the only Eclipse
and nearly every show I've ever gone to.
They're just dying out.
So it's, there've a lot of people,
I have a lot of conversations with.
- Strut tire rust.
- Yeah, mine flawless.
(indistinct)
- Yeah.
(Curtis chuckles)
- Bunch of (beep) those cars, they dip out pretty quick.
- The cons go.
- Cons, you're constantly,
just waiting for it to break.
- Sick I like that.
- It is all kinds of loud inside.
- Yeah, oh yeah..
- It makes creaks noises and everything in between.
- It makes a billion different noises,
things like a moving soundboard.
- And then...
- Hello?
(Curtis laughs)
That was probably your wife saying get off the show now.
Third con I'm gonna give it barely big boy friendly.
Sorry, I'm just, I'm saying that-
- And I'm not little either but yeah, you definitely, yeah.
- And you put two big dudes and you're max capacity.
- I'm surprised we weren't scraping.
- Yeah, yeah, I know.
- All right what advice would you give,
someone wanting a 2G fast and furious mobile.
(Curtis clears throat)
- Search, search and search?
Don't buy, I talked to that guy maybe two years,
before we went our separate ways.
And I must've searched that whole time until I gave up
and by my Evo.
I wanted, and the thing is the community so weird,
when you want to spend $8,000, $9,000 on a car,
they're like, oh, you're an idiot, you're an idiot,
you're dumb.
(upbeat music)
Like, you know like-
- Damn you got ripped apart.
- Yeah, I'll be like,
"Hey, I'm looking to spend 8 to 9,000,
like what's out there-
- And they just like giving me Busch light.
- Yeah, why would you spend that much,
it doesn't make any sense?
And so I just keep looking, you know what I mean?
There's, their cars are getting more and more rare
but they're out there
if you just your eyes.
Don't jump onto something,
just because you think it's the one, make sure.
- Cool, all right.
Well, don't buy a clapped one, use Google search
and then make sure to only pay with Busch light.
Thanks for Cheese Curtis coming to the show,
talking about his Eclipse...
(Kota mumbles)
Wheels, tires and suspension, fitment industries.
(rim clangs)
You want to slap the wheel?
- Sure.
(rim clangs)
- Holy shit, this guy is built like a brick owl.
So, my God I'm gonna...
(Curtis chuckles)
- [Edgar] Hey, it's gonna eat you, it's gonna eat you.
(Kota screams)