Are you legitimately concerned
for the well-being of your grandson
being raised by his biological mother
to the point that you fear for his safety
and therefore, you think it's actionable
and he should be removed from that home?
I've thought about it.
If you do think that and you don't report it,
then that's negligence on your part.
Right.
As a grandparent.
If you don't think it and you're just using it
as ammunition to try and fortify your position
and weaken hers, that is very easy to determine
and you can wind up not only having
your rights limited, but terminated.
Wait, we were never gonna accuse her
of being any type of thing in court.
She just did on videotape on national television.
Yeah, thank you.
We have reason to believe that you possibly do
because that's what you were taught from your mother.
Uh huh.
As my nephew got older, we were going to,
if it was a physical situation and he's old enough to be
literally saying, my mom hits me, my mom hurts me,
then yeah, we're gonna call authorities.
But he's little, we don't wanna just assume these things--
Well, let's take a look at how Charie tries
to investigate her grandson's bruise.
How'd you get the boo-boo on your face?
Because I got hurt.
How'd you get hurt?
I don't know.
How did it happen?
Hm, let's see.
Who hurt you right there, who did that?
Momma.
Why?
Because Momma hurt me.
That's not nice, I don't want Momma hurting you.
Momma's smacking on my face.
She smacked you in the face?
Yeah.
You don't let Momma do that.
You tell your grandma and you tell Nana, okay?
Okay.
I don't like that.
I protect you, okay?
Okay.
Give me a kiss.
I love you.
I guarantee you, if Alexa,
and I'll tell both of you right now,
if either one of my children ever, ever, ever
beat their children, I would be the first person,
the very first person to turn them in.
So why do you do it to your own then?
She doesn't even live in my house.
Because you physically attacked her all the time.
You guys always argue, I wouldn't live in your house either.
You know when we were arguing?
After this whole incident happened
and Alexa was extremely confused.
My nephew was saying that he's getting hit in his face.
He fell out of a shopping cart but you didn't believe us.
You told us that too but you didn't believe it.
Yes, I was there!
I was there!
You said you had your back turned
and you really didn't know.
I was there when it happened.
Because she is physical with her daughter.
Uh huh, yes.
All the time, yes.
Who knows how her childhood was.
What I did hear one time, it was last Christmas.
My nephew slapped her in her face, which he did a lot,
and she would laugh in front of us like oh it's so funny.
She put him in a timeout and she asked him,
why did you hit mom in the face?
And he said, 'cause you hit me in mine.
And she manipulated his words
like I didn't hear what he said.
And she said, no you can't just hit me 'cause you want to.
And I was disgusted.
And I went into the kitchen and I told my mom.
She just manipulated what he, I heard with my own ears,
what he just said and I'm sick.
I don't know what to do.
But he's a little boy.
I don't want to take him away from his mom.
And you never will.