I’LL LET YOU GO HOME. >> GOD BLESS YOU.
SEE YOU MONDAY.
>> SEE YOU SOON.
WE BEGIN WITH BREAKING NEWS
TONIGHT ON THESE EXPLOSIVE
BLACKMAIL ALLEGATIONS AGAINST
TRUMP ALLY, DAVID PECKER BY JEFF
BEZOS.
BEZOS. ONE OF THE DAILY BEST EDITORS
WHO HAS BEEN ALL OVER THIS STORY
IS HERE WITH ME MOMENTARYILYMOME
THE CONTEXT I WANT TO GO
THROUGH.
THROUGH. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW AS YOU’RE
WATCHING THE NEWS, THERE’S
SERIOUS IMPLICATIONS IN ALL OF
THIS FOR DONALD TRUMP.
TODAY, BLOOMBERG NEWS REPORTS
THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST TRUMP
ALLY DAVID PECKER COULD BLOW UP
HIS IMMUNITY DEAL.
PROSECUTORS PROBING WHERE THE
PUBLISHER OF THE NATIONAL
ENQUIRER VIOLATED HIS OWN
NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT BY
TRYING TO BLACKMAIL BEZOS.
PECKER HAS ONE BIG PROBLEM
BECAUSE BEZOS IS ACCUSING HIM OF
A CRIME.
A CRIME. THIS SHOWS A SECOND PROBLEM
BECAUSE AS BLOOMBERG AND NBC AND
RACHEL HAVE BEEN REPORTING,
PECKER MAY HAVE PLAYED HIMSELF
HERE AND BLOWN UP HIS OWN
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IMMUNITY
IMMUNITY IMMUNITY.
IMMUNITY. TRANSLATION
TRANSLATION TRANSLATION.
TRANSLATION. IF DAVID PECKER TOLD THE FEDS
ABOUT OTHER CRIMES HE COMMITTED
DURING THOSE IMMUNITY TALKS, HE
COULD NOW BE ON THE HOOK FOR
THEM.
THEM. THERE COULD BE A LOT MORE
PRESSURE ON THIS TRUMP ALLY.
BEZOS PUBLISHED E-MAILS THAT
REVEALS HOW HE THREATENED TO
PUBLISH PHOTOS OF BEZOS UNLESS
HE PUBLICLY BACKED DOWN.
FIRST THEY WANTED BEZOS TO SAY
THE TABLOID COVERAGE WAS NOT
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. WHY DID THEY CARE?
WE’LL GET INTO THAT.
HE WANT THEMD TOED TO END HOW TH
OBTAINED PRIVATE MESSAGES.
CERTAIN POWERFUL PEOPLE WHO
EXPERIENCE WASHINGTON POST NEWS
COVERAGE WILL WRONGLY INCLUDED
ON THEIR ENEMY, PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
TRUMP DID SEIZE ON THAT NATIONAL
ENQUIRER STORY ABOUT BEZOS
DIVORCE WRITING SO SORRY TO HEAR
THE NEWS ABOUT JEFF BEZOS BEING
TAKEN DOWN BY A COMPETITOR WHOSE
REPORTING IS FAR MORE ACCURATE
THAN IN HIS LOBBYIST NEWSPAPER.
HOPEFULLY THE PAPER WILL BE
PLACED IN BETTER AND MORE
RESPONSIBLE HANDS.
RESPONSIBLE HANDS. THAT’S A LOT.
TODAY THE WHITE HOUSE LAYING
LOW.
LOW. >> IS THE PRESIDENT AWARE OF THE
BEZOS SITUATION?
BEZOS SITUATION? WHAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE
REACTION?
REACTION? >> I’M NOT SURE IF HE’S AWARE OF
IT.
IT. WE’RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO A
SITUATION OF SOMETHING BETWEEN
JEFF BEZOS AND TABLOIDS
MAGAZINE.
MAGAZINE. >> BEZOS REPORTING AFTER
PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT
HE REWARDED MR. PECKER’S LOYAL
DI
DI TY IN WHICH HE BROUGHT A GUEST
WITH IMPORTANT TIES IN SAUDI
ARABIA.
ARABIA. PECKER WAS PERURSUING BUSINESS
THERE.
THERE. BEZOS REPORTING THE WASHINGTON
POST COVERAGE OF THE MURDER OF A
PERSON WHO WROTE FOR THEM, JAMAL
KHASHOGGI.
KHASHOGGI. MANY REMEMBER THIS.
THIS WAS IN THE SAUDI CONSULATE
IN TURKEY.
IN TURKEY. SAUDI ARABIA IS A HUGE CRITIC OF
THE POST INVESTIGATION.
AND NOW FOR SOME REASON IS DAVID
PECKER AND THIS, AGAIN, TO WHAT
JEFF BEZOS IS ASKING IS A BIG
QUESTION.
QUESTION. HE WRITES SEVERAL DAYS AGO, AN
AMI LEADER ADVISED US THAT
PECKER IS APOPLECTIC ABOUT OUR
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. FOR REASONS STILL TO BE BETTER
UNDERSTOOD, A SAUDI ANGLE SEEMS
TO HIT A PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE
NERVE.
NERVE. THAT’S A LOT.
A LOT OF IT LOOKS BAD EVEN IF
IT’S NOT ALL TRUE.
NOW, LET THAT ALL SINK IN AND
LOOK AT A BRAND NEW REPORT FROM
THE DAILY BEAST WHICH DETAILS
THE LARGER PATTERNS.
PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS WHO HAVE
LITERALLY DIRECTLY WORKED FOR
THEM AND THE QUOTE, WAR OF
BLACKMAIL THAT GOES ON AND HELPS
EXPLAIN THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND
PERHAPS THEIR BRAZENNESS THEY
THOUGHT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH
THIS AGAINST THE RICHEST MAN IN
THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. JOINING ME NOW AS PROMISED IS
THE EDITOR IN CHIEF OF DAILY
BEAST WHO CAN GIVE US A LOT MORE
DETAILS.
DETAILS. I’M JOINED BY JONATHAN ALTER.
BOTH HAVE BEEN IN SAUDI ARABIA
AND I HAVE NOT.
DON’T KNOW I’M GOING ANY TIME
SOON.
SOON. I COULDN’T PRE-JUDGE A WHOLE
REGION.
REGION. >> YOU’D LIKE IT.
YOU MAY NOT FIND IT TOTALLY
COMFORTABLE.
COMFORTABLE. >> MAYBE PART OF IT.
I’M SURE I WOULDN’T LIKE THE WAY
THE GOVERNMENT PLAYS BALL.
CERTAINLY THE WAY THEY KILL
JOURNALISTS.
JOURNALISTS. BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, WALK US
THROUGH NEW REPORTING TONIGHT.
MOST PEOPLE WHO HEARD THIS STORY
EVEN IF YOU DON’T GET ALL THE
DETAILS SAY WOW.
WHO THINKS THEY WILL GET AWAY
WITH TRYING TO THUGGISHLY TAKE
OUT AND INTIMIDATE THE RICHEST
MAN IN THE WORLD?
THESE CATS.
THESE CATS. WHY?
WHY? >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING
IT FOR DECADES.
WE TALKED TO TWO PRIVATE
INVESTIGATORS TODAY.
INVESTIGATORS TODAY. BOTH ARE COLORFUL CHARACTERS.
ONE IS A FORMER PORN STAR TURNED
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR.
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR. THE OTHER GUY GOT A JOINT FOR A
GAMBLING OPERATION.
GAMBLING OPERATION. >> OUR VIEWERS CAN HANDLE IT.
IT’S LATE FRIDAY NIGHT.
NICHOLAS IS A PULITZER PRIZE
WINNING NEW YORK JOURNALISTS WHO
DOES MUHUMANITARIAN
DOES MUHUMANITARIAN INVESTIGATIONS.
INVESTIGATIONS. LET’S KEEP IT AT HIS LEVEL.
>> THEY ARE HELPING REFUGEES AND
THEY CAME BACK TO DESCRIBE WHAT
THEY DID FOR THE NATIONAL
ENQUIRER WHICH IS THE SAME KIND
OF INTIMIDATION TACTIC OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
OVER AGAIN. EVERYBODY WE TALKED TO IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE NATIONAL
ENQUIRER TODAY, EVERY VETERAN
AND WE DIDN’T JUST TALK TO THOSE
GUYS.
GUYS. THEY USED THE TERM BLACKMAIL.
USED IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
>> I’LL SLOW YOU DOWN BUT GIVE
YOU THE MIKE BACK.
THIS IS A CRIMINAL BUSINESS
MODEL.
MODEL. >> I’M NOT GOING TO USE THE
TERM --
TERM -- >> YOUR SOURCES ARE DESCRIBING
BASIC
BASIC BASICALLY GETTING MATERIAL AND
MAKING MONEY THROUGH REPEAT
CRIME.
CRIME. BLACKMAIL AND EXTORTION,
ALLEGEDLY.
ALLEGEDLY. >> ALLEGEDLY.
>> ALLEGEDLY. SOMETIMES THEY WOULD WORK WITH
THE VERY LAWYERS OF THE TARGETS
OF THIS.
OF THIS. UL
UL YOU WOULD GET A CELEBRITY.
THEIR OWN LAWYER WOULD HAVE DIRT
ON THEM AND SERVE IT TO THE
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND SERVE
IT UP TO THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER
AND THEY WOULD DO A BLACKMAIL OR
TRADE DEAL.
TRADE DEAL. IT’S NOT JUST WHAT THEY DID TO
CELEBRITIES.
CELEBRITIES. IT’S ALSO THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARD
ADD VERADVERSARIAL JOURNALISTS.
WE HAVE A GUY ON OUR STAFF, A
NATIONAL ENQUIRER VETERAN.
THEY TRIED TO HIT HIM WITH A $5
MILLION LAWSUIT WHILE WE WERE
REPORTING OUR STORY ON THEM.
>> HOW DID YOU HANDLE THAT?
>> WE KEPT REPORTING.
>> HOW OFDEN DOESTEN DOES THIS W
>> I DON’T KNOW HOW IT WORKS IN
OTHER SHOPS BUT IN OUR SHOP IT
DOESN’T WORK.
DOESN’T WORK. JOURNALISM IS A TRICKY TRADE.
THE BUSINESS MODEL IS REALLY
TOUGH NOW.
TOUGH NOW. I CAN IMAGINE THAT FOR SOME
SHOPS BEING THREATENED WITH
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LEGAL
FEES OR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
DAMAGES THAT WOULD BE A BIG DEAL
FOR THEM.
FOR THEM. THAT MIGHT DISSAIDUADE THEM FROM
STORY.
STORY. >> YOU LOOK AT THE MULTIPLE
THEORIES AND ONE IS THAT DONALD
TRUMP IS BEHIND THIS BECAUSE HE
ACTS LIKE HE’S BEHIND THIS.
I WANT TO READ FOR YOU WHAT
HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR SAID IN
DESCRIBING THAT.
DESCRIBING THAT. ARE DONALD TRUMP AND THE
MURDEROUS SAUDI PRINCE
CO-CONSPIRATORS WITH PECKER TO
BLACKMAIL AND EXTORT JEFF BEZOS
AS OWNER OF THE WASHINGTON POST.
ASKING FOR A FRIEND.
THAT’S ONE THEORY THIS IS ALL
ABOUT.
ABOUT. >> IT’S UNPROVEN BUT IT HAS THE
RING OF PLAUSIBILITY TO IT WHICH
IS AN EXTRAORDINARY THING TO SAY
ABOUT A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES. NOAH HAS BEEN DESCRIBING A VERY
SEEMY FORM OF TRANSACTIONAL
JOURNALISM WHICH HAS BEEN GOING
ON IN THE GUTTER OF AMERICAN
JOURNALISM FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
WHAT’S DIFFERENT IS THIS IS NOT
DIRECTLY INVOLVE THE PRESIDENT.
WE KNOW THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN
WHAT THEY CALL CATCH AND KILL AT
THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER AND
BENEFITTED HIM IN THE STORMY
DANIELS AND KAREN MCDOUGAL CASE.
WE KNOW HE’S IN THIS WORLD.
WE KNOW THAT HE’S VERY CLOSE TO
THE SAUDIS.
THE SAUDIS. WE KNOW THAT EVEN TODAY THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS BREAKING
THE LAW.
THE LAW. THE GLOBAL MAGNINSKY ACT THAT
REQUIRES THEM TO TAKE ACTION IN
RESPONSE TO THE KHASHOGGI
KILLING.
KILLING. TODAY WAS THE DEADLINE.
THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE
LIEU
LIEU LAW.
LAW. THAT’S HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO
SUGAR COAT THIS BRUTAL CRIME
THAT TOOK PLACE.
WE HAVE PECKER, MBS FROM SAUDI
ARABIA, PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THEY ARE ALL IN ALIGNMENT.
THEY ALL HAVE A MOTIVE TO HAVE
COMMITTED THIS BLACKMAIL.
>> YOU EXPLAIN WHY AFTER GETTING
CAUGHT UP IN THIS FEDERAL PROBE
WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE
SUCH GREAT RISKS TO HIMSELF?
>> I CAN’T ACCEPT THIS IS THE
WAY THEY PLAY.
THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEY COULD
INTIMIDATE THE RICHEST MAN IN
THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. THEY HAD STRONG INTEREST IN
TRYING TO DO THE PRESIDENT’S
BIDDING.
BIDDING. THE PRESIDENT JUST TWEETED HE
THINKS THIS DISGUSTING PUBLIC
INDICATION WOULD BE PREFERABLE
AS THE OWNER OF THE WASHINGTON
POST.
POST. HE SAID IT’S A BETTER NEWSPAPER
THAN THE WASHINGTON POST.
THIS IS THE WAY DESPITS ALL
AROUND THE WORLD ARE PLAYING
NOW.
NOW. THEY ARE BUYING UP THE BIGGEST
NEWSPAPER IN THEIR COUNTRY TO
SILENCE IT AND QUELL CRITICISM.
THAT’S WHAT TRUMP WOULD LIKE TO
DO IN THE UNITED STATES AND
TAKING US AWAY FROM DEMOCRACY.
HE’S NOT GOING THE GET AWAY WITH
IT BECAUSE HE’S MET HIS MATCH IN
JEFF BEZOS.
JEFF BEZOS. >> IT IS CHILLING BECAUSE YOU
HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN
WORKING WITH MEDIA INSTITUTIONS
WITHOUT NAMING NAMES.
THERE’S BEEN MORE THAT HAVE BEEN
COURAGEOUS OVER THE YEARS
DEPENDING ON WHAT IS IN CHARGE.
THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL, WHAT
EVERY ONE THINKS ABOUT BEZOS,
WHO GOT HIT WITH SOMETHING THAT
TOOK PERSONAL KIND OF
EMBARRASSMENT AND STOOD UP TO IT
AND OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT NOT.
ALTER HERE.
ALTER HERE. CAN I CALL YOU BY YOUR LAST
NAME?
NAME? >> SURE.
>> SURE. >> THERE’S ANOTHER THEORY THAT
WOULDN’T BE AS BAD FOR TRUMP BUT
STILL GO TO A VERY IMPORTANT
NATIONAL INTRIGUE WHICH IS THAT
MBS AND THE SAUDIS ARE DOING
THROUGH THIS THE ENQUIRER TO GO
AFTER AMERICAN JOURNALISM AND
MATTERS AROUND THE WORLD.
DO FACTS MATTER, DO STORIES
MATTER?
MATTER? YOU BET THAT DO.
BREN
BREN BRENNONIS OF THAT THEORY.
I HAVE NO DOUBT, THE KILLING OF
KHASHOGGI THAT HE WOULD TRY TO
DISCREDIT, EMBARRASS AND HURT
BEZOS FINANCIALLY IF HE COULD.
THAT’S THE THEORY THAT COMES
FROM THEM.
FROM THEM. >> I’M A LITTLE MORE SKEPTICAL
OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT
SAUDI ARABIA IS INDEED AGAST AT
WHAT THE WASHINGTON POST HAS
BEEN WRITING.
BEEN WRITING. IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
SAUDIS THEY HAVEN’T TIED THAT SO
DIRECTLY TO JEFF BEZOS.
THEY TIED IT TO THE WASHINGTON
POST.
POST. I WOULD JUST EMPHASIZE THAT WE
HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT
SPECULATING HERE.
SPECULATING HERE. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DOTS.
WE SHOULD JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT
CONNECTING THEM.
CONNECTING THEM. WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE
SORT OF THIS BLACKMAIL MODEL ON
THE PART OF THE NATIONAL
ENQUIRER.
ENQUIRER. WE KNOW AS JOHN SAID THAT THE
NATIONAL ENQUIRER HAS LEVERAGED
THE MATERIAL IT HAS FOR THE
BENEFIT, THE POLITICAL BENEFIT
OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES.
STATES. WE ALSO KNOW THAT SAUDI ARABIA
HAS INDEED HAD VERY CLOSE TIES
WITH THE PRESIDENT MBS, JARED
KUSHNER.
KUSHNER. THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER HAS HAD
CLOSE TIES AND BUSINESS TIES
WITH SAUDI ARABIA.
>> THERE’S SEVERAL DOTS AND
THERE’S ALSO A LINE.
THE LINE IS THE E-MAILS HAVE
COME OUT AND THE ENQUIRER ARE
NOT SAYING IF THEY ARE FAKE OR
FALSE.
FALSE. TE MAILS OUTLINE THAT GO BEYOND
THE ENQUIRER’S DESIRE TO ENRICH
THEMSELVES OR MAKE MONEY.
THEY WANT TO CUT OFF BEZOS, THE
POST, FROM FINDING OUT WHERE
THEY GOT THE STUFF.
IF THEY GOT IT FROM A PRIVATE
EYE THAT WOULDN’T BE SO BAD.
>> JEFF BEZOS SEEMS TO THINK
THERE’S A SAUDI CONNECTION.
WE DON’T HAVE FURTHER EVIDENCE
OF THAT.
OF THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL
ABOUT A RUSH TO JUDGMENT ON
WHETHER THIS GOES BEYOND
NATIONAL ENQUIRER.
NATIONAL ENQUIRER. THERE ARE REASONS FOR SUSPICIONS
AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL
ABOUT ANSWERING THEM.
>> THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO
NOTE IS BEZOS MISTRESS HAS A
BROTHER NAMED MARK SANCHEZ.
HE’S AN ASSOCIATE WITH MR. TRUMP
FIGURE, CARTER PAGE AND ROGER
STONE.
STONE. HE’S HAD SOMETHING OF A
RELATIONSHIP WITH AMI OVER THE
YEARS.
YEARS. HE’S SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN
INTERVIEWED IN THE PRIVATE
INVESTIGATION THAT BEZOS FUNDED.
IT MAY BE ALL OF THESE
GEOPOLITICAL FORCES OR IT MAY
COME DOWN TO SOMETHING MUCH MORE
PERSONAL OR SOME COMBINATION.
>> I AGREE THAT WE DON’T HAVE
ANY EVIDENCE.
ANY EVIDENCE. THERE ARE OTHER DATA POINTS.
ONE OF THEM IS A HUNDRED PAGE
PUBLICATION CALLED THE NEW
KINGDOM.
KINGDOM. IT WAS PUT OUT BY AMI, THE OWNER
OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER THAT
JUST SLOBBERED ALL OVER MBS IN
WAY THAT WAS REPORTING THAT
THEY -- I GEZUESS THEY DID SOME
THE SAME KIND OF REPORTING
DURING DONALD TRUMP DURING THE
KPANL
KPANL CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. THERE WAS NO ADS.
IT WASN’T CLEAR WHO PAID FOR
THIS.
THIS. PECKER SAID HE PAID FOR IT OUT
OF HIS OWN POCKET FOR REASONS
THAT UNCLEAR.
THAT UNCLEAR. THE STATE DEPARTMENT,
INTERESTINGLY, LAST YEAR WHEN
THIS CAME OUT WAS ASKED WHETHER
THERE WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND
THE PUBLICATION BY AMI OF THIS
HUNDRED PAGE MAGAZINE ABOUT HOW
GREAT SAUDI ARABIA IS AND THEY
SORT OF ISSUED A NON-DENIAL
DENIAL.
DENIAL. I THINK THE QUOTE WAS TO OUR
KNOWLEDGE THERE’S NO CONNECTION
TO THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT
WHICH RAISES SOME REAL EYEBROWS.
THERE’S A LOT OF REPORTING YET
TO BE DONE BETWEEN THE SAUDIS,
DAVID PECKER AND THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. >> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT IRAN
CONTRA.
CONTRA. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK
PEOPLE IS IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A
STUPID IDEA FROM THE START.
THIS STUFF SEEMED SO WHACKY.
IF IT WERE A MOVIE AND THIS
SCENE IN THE MOVIE RIGHT AFTER
THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS.
THE PRESIDENT’S TABLOIDS KILLER
WHO HIDES BAD STORIES, YOU’D SAY
IT’S TOO MUCH.
>> THE WHOLE CATCH AND RELEASE
IDEA OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER
PAYING FOR THESE STORIES WAS
PRETTY WILD.
PRETTY WILD. THIS IS KIND OF ONE MORE LAYER
OF WILDNESS OR TOP OF THAT.
I WOULD MAKE THE POINT WE DON’T
KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS TERRIBLE
MALPRACTICE HERE.
MALPRACTICE HERE. WE KNOW THERE WAS VAST
MALPRACTICE MORE BROADLY.
THE CIA HAS CONCLUDESD THE CROWN
PRINCE MURDERED A WASHINGTON
POST COLUMNIST THAT THE
PRESIDENT REFUSED TO HOLD THE
CROWN PRINCE ACCOUNTABLE.
JARED KUSHNER ACQUIRED ABOUT
WHETHER THE U.S. CAN HELP THE
CROWN PRINCE TAKE OVER THE
SUCCESSION.
SUCCESSION. THE CROWN PRINCE IS TORTURING
AND IMPRISONING WOMEN’S RIGHTS
ACTIVISTS AND THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT REFUSES TO EVEN
MENTION THEIR NAMES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN
INDISPUTABLE.
INDISPUTABLE. I THINK WE HAVE TO HOLD THE
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THAT FAILURE TO ACT ON THE
MURDER OF A JOURNALIST AND ON
THE IMPRISONMENT AND TORTURE.
>> I THINK THIS WEEK ONE MORE
THING IS THE CROWN PRINCE WAS
QUOTED AS SAYING THAT HE QUOTE
WANTED TO PUT A BULLET --
>> THEIR EFFORTS TO DISTANCE
THEMSELVES ARE NOT GOING WELL.
>> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TO
REFLECT ON.
REFLECT ON. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRUE
STAKES AND STATE SPONSORED
MURDER AND FREE SPEECH AROUND
THE WORLD.
THE WORLD. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
PORNOGRAPHIC SOURCES THAT YOU
HAVE AND THAT’S WHY YOU’RE HERE.
I’M KIDDING.
I’M KIDDING. I KNOW ALL THREE OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS AND THEY ARE
TALENTED JOURNALISTS.
TALENTED JOURNALISTS. THAT WAS A JOKE.
YOUR STORY WAS GREAT.