ALL RIGHT.
THAT IS MY RIFF.
JOINING ME NOW NOBODY BETTER TO
TALK ABOUT THIS ABSOLUTELY
NOBODY BETTER, JOINING ME IS
RICK PERRY, FORMER SECRETARY OF
ENERGY AND OF COURSE FORMER
TEXAS GOVERNOR.
RICK PERRY, WELCOME BACK TO THE
SHOW.
YOU KNOW, RICK OF ALL THE BAD
STUFF EMBODIED IN THIS, TO ME AT
LEAST, IT IS THE FACT THAT WE
ARE NOW BACK TO DEPENDING ON
OPEC WHICH IS NOT OUR ALLY.
THEY ARE NOT DEPENDABLE.
WE USED TO CALL THE TUNE.
NOW WE’RE LETTING THEM CALL THE
TUNE AGAIN AND THAT INFURIATES
ME.
>> WHAT A GREAT MONOLOGUE.
YOU LAID THAT OUT AS WELL AS I
HAVE HEARD AND I HOPE THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE GET TO HEAR THAT
TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
LARRY: THANK YOU, RICK. >> THIS DIDN’T NEED TO HAPPEN.
>> THIS DIDN’T NEED TO HAPPEN.
WE HAD THIS COUNTRY SITTING IN A
VERY, VERY SWEET SPOT SO TO
SPEAK.
PRAY AT THE ALTAR OF THE
ENVIRONMENT IS COSTING THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
YOU SAID IT A MOMENT AGO, SAYING
DEMOCRATS WILL PAY AT THE POLLS
WHILE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
PAYING AT THE PUMP AND THAT’S --
THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMICS AND
SUPPLY AND DEMAND STILL MATTERS.
THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER
YOU COULD GO PLACATE THE WOKE
LEFT WITH ALL OF THEIR
ENVIRONMENTAL NONSENSE AND THE
BLATHER COMING OUT OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION ON THE, ON THE
CLIMATE SIDE, AND NOT HAVE AN
EFFECT, I MEAN THERE IS A CAUSE
AND EFFECT HERE.
IT IS POWERFUL.
YOU SENT THE MESSAGE TO THE
FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY,
MR. PRESIDENT, THAT YOU HATE
THEM, YOU WILL DO EVERYTHING YOU
CAN TO STOP THEM IN THEIR
TRACKS, TO STOP DRILLING, TO
STOP THE AMERICAN INNOVATORS AND
YOU DID IT.
I WILL GIVE YOU THAT.
YOU REALLY SLOWED THIS FOSSIL
FUEL INDUSTRY DOWN IN AMERICA.
WE’RE PAYING A HUGE PRICE FOR
IT.
IT DIDN’T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
WE COULD HAVE SENT -- THIS
PRESIDENT COULD HAVE ALLOWED THE
OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY TO CONTINUE
ON AND WE MIGHT COULD HAVE
GOTTEN HIM TO READ ALEX
EPSTEIN’S BOOK, FOSS TILL
FUTURE, HE WOULD HAVE HAD A
BETTER IDEA THAT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL LEFT IS PULLING
THE WOOL OVER HIS EYES AND THE
REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
FOLLOWING THAT.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS CLEARLY A
CONDITION THAT WE BROUGHT ON
OURSELVES, AND YOU MADE A REALLY
GOOD POINT ABOUT THE STRATEGIC
PETROLEUM RESERVE, LARRY.
HE HAS USED IT FOR POLITICAL
PURPOSES, NOT FOR THE REASON IT
WAS SET UP AND THAT IS, FOR A
HURRICANE LIKE WE GOT, LIKE
WE’VE HAD AND YOU KNOW IT WILL
BE INTERESTING FOR ME TO SEE IN
HINDSIGHT DID, OR IS THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED
NEGATIVELY BECAUSE OUR STRATEGIC
PETROLEUM RESERVE HAS BEEN
DEPLETED SO MUCH FOR THE
POLITICAL REASON THAT WE DON’T
HAVE ENOUGH TO GET IT OUT INTO
THESE FLORIDA, AND TO
SOUTH CAROLINA AND STATES,
GEORGIA THAT WERE HIT BY
HURRICANE IAN?
I MEAN THIS IS JUST A LOT OF
STUFF GOING ON HERE THAT DIDN’T
NEED TO HAPPEN.
POOR PUBLIC POLICY COMING OUT OF
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND,
LISTEN, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY,
OH, YOU KNOW, IS OPEC’S FAULT,
BAD OLD OPEC, IF WE HAD NOT PUT
IN THESE CRAZY POLICIES WE COULD
HAVE THUMBED OUR NOSES AT THEM,
GONE ABOUT OUR BUSINESS.
NO, WE HAVE TO PLAY THIS
POLITICAL WOKE GAME.
IT IS COSTING THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE DEARLY.
LARRY: JUST, KEY POINT HERE.
THE THING THAT JUST DRIVES ME
CRAZY, SO, YOU AS ENERGY
SECRETARY TRAVELING THE WORLD,
TRAVELING TO THE MIDDLE EAST,
DEALING WITH THE SAUDIS, OTHER
GULF STATES AND OIL PRODUCERS,
YOU HAD THE WHIP HAND BECAUSE OF
WHAT WE WERE DOING AT HOME.
YOU HAD THE WHIP HAND BECAUSE
OUR SPIGOTS WERE OPEN, BECAUSE
TRUMP KEPT THEM OPEN AND
PROVIDED, BY THE WAY, IMPORTANT
TAX CUTS FOR ALL AMERICAN
INDUSTRIES INCLUDING THE
PETROLEUM, OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
SO WE WERE REINVIGORATED,
CUTTING RED TAPE WHICH MADE IT
EASIER TO DRILL AND TO REFINE
AND SO FOR, SO ON, MAKE
PIPELINES.
NOW I WOULD GATHER THE CURRENT
ENERGY SECRETARY, GRANHOLM, IS
NOT FEARED, NOT RESPECTED, NOT
REALLY PAID ANY ATTENTION TO, I
MEAN ALL OF BIDEN’S MINIONS WENT
TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
BIDEN HIMSELF WENT TO THE
MIDDLE EAST, THEY GOT NOTHING
FOR THIS.
WE HAVE LOST RESPECT AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY I GUESS, OR EQUALLY,
WE HAVE LOST SECURITY.
THEY ARE RUNNING THE OIL SHOW
RIGHT NOW.
WE WERE RUNNING THE OIL SHOW AND
YEAH, WE CAN BLAME THE OPEC IF
WE WANT, BUT AS YOU SAID THE
REALITY IS THIS IS A HOME-GROWN
PROBLEM.
THIS IS BECAUSE OF BIDEN’S BAD
POLICIES.
ALL HE HAD TO DO, RIGHT, WAS LET
1000 FLOWERS BLOOM, RIGHT?
KEEP THE FOSSIL INDUSTRY
BOOMING.
BUILD UP THE RENEWABLE INDUSTRY.
GIVE EVERYBODY EQUAL TAX CUTS,
LOWER TAX RATES, MORE
DEPRECIATION.
HE DIDN’T HAVE TO SHUT OFF
FOSSIL SPIGOTS.
DIDN’T HAVE TO DO THAT.
SOLD A BILL OF GOODS BY THE
GLOBAL CLIMATE WARRIORS.
THAT IS THE KILLER HERE.
NOW LOOK WHERE WE ARE.
>> YEAH, WELL IT IS AND AGAIN
NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE A REAL,
A REAL MOMENT IN TIME I THINK.
THE DEMOCRAT PARTY GOING TO PAY
A HUGE PRICE FOR THIS AND THEY
SHOULD.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO
VOTED FOR JOE BIDEN, THINKING
THAT THEY GUY WILL BRING AMERICA
TOGETHER AND HE HAS DONE JUST
THE OPPOSITE.
HE HAS DIVIDED THIS COUNTRY LIKE
NEVER BEFORE AND WE NEED
LEADERSHIP AND HOPEFULLY THE
REPUBLICANS WILL COME IN IN
JANUARY AND RIGHT THE SHIP AND
REALLY START SENDING A MESSAGE
TO OUR ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD,
LISTEN, WE’RE GOING TO BE BACK,
DELIVERING THAT FOSSIL FUEL,
THAT ENERGY THAT YOU’RE GOING TO
NEED.
THEY WILL BE EXPANDING SMALL,
MODULAR REACTORS, USING AMERICAN
INNOVATION AND SHOWING THE
WORLD, HERE IS HOW YOU HAVE
BASELOAD POWER, ALLOWING PEOPLE
IN AFRICA TO FLOURISH TO NOT GET
THE MESSAGE LIKE MR. KERRY SENDS
OUT THERE, LISTEN, YOU’RE JUST
GOING TO DIE.
WE DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU IN
AFRICA.
YOU WILL NOT HAVE FOSSIL FUELS.
YOU WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR POWER.
YOU’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A
BASELOAD TO IMPROVE YOUR WAY OF
LIFE.
THAT IS A LOSER MESSAGE IN MY
OPINION AROUND THE WORLD AND THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY NEEDS TO BE
STANDING UP AND TALKING ABOUT
WE’RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE
TO FLOURISH AROUND THE WORLD.
AMERICAN INNOVATION, AMERICAN
FOSSIL FUELS, AMERICAN
TECHNOLOGY, THAT’S THE MESSAGE
FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND YOU
SAID IT, THE CAVALRY IS OUT WAY
AND IT’S COMING AND IT IS GOING
TO BLOW THROUGH THE DOOR ON
NOVEMBER THE 8th.
LARRY: I MEAN, THIS OPEC
SO-CALLED OCTOBER SURPRISE PUTS
THIS WHOLE OIL PROBLEM BACK ON
THE FRONT PAGES.
THAT IS THE IRONY OF THIS.
GASOLINE PRICES ARE IN FACT
ALREADY EDGING HIGHER.
THEY’RE ALREADY VERY, VERY HIGH
ON THE WEST COAST THIS WILL
AFFECT THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
RICK PERRY IF YOU WERE BACK AS
SECRETARY OF ENERGY, WHAT WOULD
YOU PROPOSE?
LET ME PUT IT DIFFERENTLY WITH
RESPECT TO THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE CHANGING HANDS TO THE
GOP, WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE THEM
TO DO?
WHAT WAS YOUR GUIDANCE BE RIGHT
AWAY?
>> OBVIOUSLY YOU START PASSING
SOME LEGISLATION THAT JOE BIDEN
WOULD HAVE TO PASS.
I MEAN THINGS THAT CLEARLY
PERMITTING FOR PIPELINES, FOR
INSTANCE.
I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR
US TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT
LISTEN, WE’RE NOT GOING TO LET
THE WOKE LEFT STOP THESE
PIPELINES FROM BEING BUILT IN
THIS COUNTRY ANYMORE.
THAT TO ME WOULD BE ONE OF THE
MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THEY COULD
DO.
YOU KNOW, I THINK MANCHIN TRIED
TO DO THAT.
FOR WHATEVER REASON HE DECIDED
TO GO WITH THE, THAT IRA BILL
THAT WAS NOT A INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT IN ANY FORM OR
FASHION.
WITH THE, WITH THE, I GUESS THE
HOPE THAT JOE BIDEN WAS GOING TO
DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO AND,
ANYWAY LONG STORY SHORT IS, I
THINK THE PERMITTING REFORM TO
ME, I’M ENERGY STANDPOINT, WOULD
HAVE IS POWERFUL AN IMPACT OF AS
ANYTHING -- TO BE ABLE TO MOVE
THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO.
AND THEN STOP ANY TYPE OF
OVERTAXATION, OVERREGULATION,
OVERLITIGATION THAT IS OUT
THERE.
THOSE ARE THREE THINGS YOU HAVE
TO HAVE ALLOW THE ECONOMY TO
GROW.
DON’T OVERTAX, DON’T OVER
REGULATE, DON’T OVERLITIGATE.
IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
REPUBLICAN KNOWS THAT.
THAT I THINK WHEN THEY WILL
IMPLEMENT.
LARRY: RICK, 30 SECONDS, THE
NEXT BATTLE, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO STOP,
CURTAIL, LNG EXPORTS WHAT DO YOU
MAKE OF THAT ONE?
>> AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW WHERE
THEY ARE GETTING THEIR SIGNALS
FROM BUT IT IS AS POOR POLICY
FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY
STANDPOINT.
SENDING A MESSAGE TO OUR
EUROPEAN ALLIES, HEY, SORRY,
WE’RE JUST NOT GOING TO SEND ANY
GAS OVER THERE.
YOU WILL HAVE TO DEPEND ON
PUTIN.
WHAT A DISASTER.
ALREADY, I MEAN EUROPE’S IN
TROUBLE.
LIKE SERIOUS TROUBLE THIS WINTER
AND WE PUT PUTIN IN A POSITION
TO ALLOW HIM TO REALLY USE HIS
ENERGY AS A WEAPON.
AND HE IS AND HE WILL.