FRANKLY.
HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER KEVIN
McCARTHY ANNOUNCES IT IS TIME
FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY GIANT TO
COME CLEAN AND TO HEAD TO
WASHINGTON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
McCARTHY SAID THE PROSPECT OF
GOOGLE EXECUTIVES USING THEIR
PERSONAL LEFT WING BIASES AND
BELIEFS TO CONTROL THE CONTENT
THEIR USERS SEE IS DISTURBING,
DEMONSTRATING TRANSPARENCY.
IN MY OPINION, THAT'S ONLY AN
ATTORNEY FOR THE SOUTHERN
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, NATIONAL
REVIEW CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, AND
FOX BUSINESS CONTRIBUTOR.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THIS IS STUNNING STUFF TO ME.
LAMENTING, THE LOSS OF THE
FAVORED CANDIDATE HILARY
CLINTON.
YOUR REACTION?
>> WELL, I DON'T BEGRUDGE THEM
APPEAR TO USE IT IN OPERATING
THE PLATFORM.
I KNOW THEY SAY THEY DON'T, AND
YOU KNOW, IT IS A FREE COUNTRY.
THEY ARE NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
THEY ARE A PRIVATE BUSINESS.
LOU: DO YOU THINK THEY CAN?
>> -- ALTERNATIVE.
LOU: IT SEEMS TO ME TO YOUR
POINT IT IS A LEFT WING BUSINESS
RUN BY LEFT WING EXECUTIVES WHO
ARE STIFLING FAIR COMMENT FROM
CONSERVATIVES AS IF THEY HAD NO
RIGHTS WHATSOEVER, AT LEAST
SECOND CLASS RIGHTS AND ARE
SUPPLANTED BY THE RIGHTS OF THE
HAVE -- I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE
RIGHTS THAT ARE ENFORCEABLE ON A
PRIVATE PLATFORM, AND I THINK
THE PROBLEM, LOU, WITH THE
SITUATION LIKE THIS IS THAT, YOU
KNOW, IF THEY ARE ALL LEFT
WINGERS, AND THE ETHOS OF THE
FROM INTRUDING INTO THEIR WAY OF
THINKING, THEY IN SOME SENSE
DON'T EVEN REALIZE HOW LITERALLY
OUT IN LEFT FIELD THEY ARE.
LOU: I LIKE THE EXPRESSION LEFT
FIELD, WITHOUT QUESTION, THEY
ARE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE
AS YOU SAY, IT IS A PRIVATE
PLATFORM, BUT THE LAST I LOOKED,
YOU KNOW, AT&T IS A PRIVATE
COMPANY, BUT IT'S REGULATED,
ISN'T IT?
>> WELL, YEAH, AND I GUESS IF WE
HAD TO RECREATE THE WHEEL, WE
ARE ENCUMBERED IN, AND I THINK
TECHNOLOGY IS GENERATIONS AHEAD
OF THE SORT OF STATIC --
LOU: WHAT IF I SAID TO YOU
THAT'S A HISTORICAL GAMBLE I'LL
TO ENSURE FAIRNESS, LEVEL
PLAYING FIELDS IN THE PUBLIC
SQUARE, WHETHER IT IS DOMINATED
BY PRIVATE COMPANIES OR WHETHER
IT IS A MATTER OF SIMPLY OF
GOVERNMENT RIGHTS TO ITS
CITIZENS.
THERE'S ECONOMIC, TECHNOLOGICAL
POWER THAT IS SUFFOCATING RIGHT
WING VOICES, CONSERVATIVE
VOICES.
WITHOUT EXCEPTION.
>> I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD,
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY BECOME
THE PUBLIC SQUARE AND THEREFORE
I THINK IT IS ON US TO COME UP
WITH A BETTER ALTERNATIVE.
LOU: YOU DO?
WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVEN'T?
>> I DO.
LOU: WHY IS IT WE HAVEN'T?
>> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR GUYS
WHO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT HOW
CAPITAL WORKS IN THIS COUNTRY,
LIKE YOU, THAN LIKE ME, YOU
LOU: THE QUESTION OF CAPITAL
COMES FRANKLY THE CONCENTRATION
OF CAPITAL, AND THERE'S VERY
LITTLE APPETITE FOR COMPETITION.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT GOOGLE THAT
OWNS, WHAT IS IT, PROBABLY 93%
TO MOUNT A CAPITAL COMPETITION
THAT WOULD BE OF SUFFICIENT
LOOK AT BING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
SUPPORTED WITH A MICROSOFT
PLATFORM, IT'S STILL INCAPABLE
OF MOVING AHEAD.
IT IS A QUESTION -- IT'S A LARGE
QUESTION, BUT IT CAN'T BE SIMPLY
DISMISSED BECAUSE SOMETIMES IN
ECONOMIC HISTORY, WE OVERCOME
THESE KINDS OF EXTRAORDINARY
ECONOMIC CONCENTRATION.
REPLETE WITH EXAMPLES WHERE
REGULATION WAS THE ONLY
SOLUTION.
>> WELL, I GUESS THAT'S ONE WAY
OF LOOKING AT IT.
THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IF RIGHT
WING VOICES WERE BEING
SUPPRESSED, AS MUCH AS YOU
SUGGEST, I DON'T SEE HOW TRUMP
WOULD BE PRESIDENT.
SO I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A
VIBRANT RIGHT WING NEWS AND
OPINION COMMUNITY AND THAT, YOU
AM AS RESISTANT TO THIS KIND OF
REGULATION AS YOU ARE TO SPECIAL
COUNSEL'S, IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT
BEFORE THE BREAK.
COUNSELS.
THIS IS A LESSON THAT I HOPE
EVERY FOOL IN THE COUNTRY, IN
THE LEGAL PROFESSION HAS
LEARNED, THAT THIS IS NOT THE
SOLUTION, GRAND JURIES AND
APPROPRIATE PROSECUTION IS.
DO WE HAVE THAT FULL SCREEN
RIGHT NOW ON WHAT HAS COME OUT,
THE LATEST ON STRZOK AND PAGE?
IF WE COULD PUT THAT UP, I WOULD
DO WE HAVE THAT?
HERE IT IS.
THIS IS -- IT WILL MAKE YOUR
HEAD SPIN TO REALIZE HOW MANY
STORIES WE PLAYED A PERSONAL
ROLE IN.
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TEXT THAT
HAS JUST COME OUT.
THIS WITH LISA PAGE AND PETER
STRZOK SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY
WERE AWARE, THIS FROM LISA PAGE,
IN DECEMBER 19TH OF 2016, SHE
SAYS -- THIS HAS BEEN QUITE A
YEAR FORWARDING A LINK TO THE
TIME'S MOST READ STORIES OF
PETER STRZOK'S ATTORNEY TRYING
TO EXPLAIN THAT THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT STOPPING LEAKS
RATHER THAN PUSHING LEAKS?
YOU KNOW, LOU, THAT THERE IS --
BECAUSE BASED ON MY OWN
EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THERE IS
OCCASIONAL CASES WHERE YOU HAVE
BUT YOU'RE ILL PUT TO MAKE THAT
KIND OF A CASE WHEN YOUR
FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER EVERY
THE LEAKING IN THIS PARTICULAR
INVESTIGATION WAS COMING FROM
THE HIGHER -- THE UPPER
HIERARCHY OF THE FBI AND THIS
CERTAINLY ISN'T A SITUATION
WHERE THESE GUYS CAN SPEAK AS
PEOPLE WHO WERE TRYING TO STAND
AS EXAMPLES AGAINST PRESS
LEAKING, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
LOU: WOULD YOU SAY THAT THEY
LOOK GUILTY AS HELL OF LEAKING
AND SETTING UP THESE
SURVEILLANCES?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I THINK
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AS A
COMPREHENSIVE CASE, WE KNOW
THERE WAS A TON OF LEAKING, AND
WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT LEAKING AT THE SAME TIME
THE TON OF LEAKING IS GOING ON,