>> Gillian: SOUNDS LIKE A LOT
OF HOPE BUT NO CHANCE.
THANKS SO MUCH.
THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE IS
TRYING TO GET AMERICA’S
ATTENTION WITH A BIG MOVE
ANNOUNCING ITS FIRST HEARING
WILL GET UNDERWAY NEXT THIRST
AT 8:00 P.M. DURING PRIME TIME.
THEY PROMISE THE FINDINGS FROM
OVER A THOUSAND INTERVIEWS AND
NEVER BEFORE SEEN EVIDENCE FROM
THE DAY.
NO WORD ON WHO OF THOSE
THOUSAND WITNESSES WILL TESTIFY.
DEMOCRATIC CHAIRMAN BENNIE
THOMPSON EXPECTS EIGHT HEARINGS
THIS MONTH AND THEY ISSUED
SUBPOENAS TO FIVE HOUSE MEMBERS
NONE OF WHICH HAVE COMMITTED TO
COOPERATING.
MCCARTHY AND JORDAN WITH BOTH
SUBPOENAED AND SAY DEMOCRATS
ARE WEAPONIZING THIS COMMITTEE.
>> MY POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED
THON COMMITTEE.
IT IS NOT VALID.
REPUBLICANS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO
APPOINT ANYBODY.
IT IS PURELY POLITICAL.
>> THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD.
DO YOU WANT ONE PARTY BEING
ABLE TO SUBPOENA THE OTHER
PARTY?
AND PLAY THE POLITICS THAT I
THINK THEY’RE PLAYING HERE?
>> Gillian: TAMMY BRUCE IS THE
HOIST OF GET TAMMY BRUCE ON FOX
NATION.
TAMMY, THEY ARE TRYING TO GRAB
SOME HEADLINES WITH ROLLING OUT
THE FIRST HEARING WHICH IS
UNDERSTANDABLE.
THEY HAVE BEEN PLUGGING AT THIS
FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW.
THE FIRST QUESTION TO ASK IS,
IS THERE ANYONE LEFT IN AMERICA
WHOSE MIND IS NOT ALREADY MADE
UP ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON
JANUARY 6th?
WHAT THEY SAW?
IS THERE ANYBODY WHOSE TAKE ON
THIS IS STILL MUTEABLE?
>> I DON’T THINK SO.
WE’VE SEEN CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO
DID HORRIBLE THINGS WHO
UNDERGONE TRIALS OR PLED GUILTY
AND SERVING TIME IN JAIL.
AN F.B.I. INVESTIGATION.
LEGACY MEDIA RARELY TALKS ABOUT
IT THAT FOUND NO EVIDENCE TO
SOME LARGE-SCALE PLOT INVOLVING
DONALD TRUMP TO OVERFURNITURE
THE ELECTION.
BUT THAT ALSO AGAIN WENT OUT
THERE BECAUSE IT DIDN’T SERVE A
POLITICAL NARRATIVE.
THIS TELLS YOU HOW CONCERNED
THE DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT THEIR
WHOLE BASE.
I DON’T THINK IT WILL BE WELL
RECEIVED BY DEMOCRATS AND
INDEPENDENTS CONSIDERING WHAT’S
GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY.
WE’RE SEEING THEM NOT GET THEIR
ACT TOGETHER ABOUT WHAT TO DO
REGARDING WHAT HAS BEEN
PLAGUING OUR SOCIETY WITH
MENTAL HEALTH AND DRUG ABUSE
AND GUN ABUSE.
SO THEY CAN’T DO THAT.
BUT THEY WILL ROLL OUT MAJOR
BROADWAY THEATER OVER THIS
TARGETING EFFECTIVELY OF DONALD
TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS.
THIS IS A CLASSIC STAR CHAMBER
WHICH IS LIKE A SECRET HEARING
OR PRE-PLANNED HEARING THAT IS
MEANT TO PERSECUTE ONE
INDIVIDUAL.
AMERICANS DON’T LIKE THAT SINCE
WE KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY
THINGS THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR
LIVES.
INFLATION, CRIME, THE BORDER,
INTERNATIONAL DRAMA.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO LAND WELL
AT ALL.
>> Gillian: TO THIS POINT,
TAMMY, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AT
LARGE, TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND
NONE SAY THEY DON’T WANT TO
ARGUE IN THE MEDIA ABOUT THIS
ANYMORE.
IS THERE ANY PRESSURE ON THESE
FIVE GOP HOUSE MEMBERS TO PUT
FORTH SOME OF THIS EVIDENCE
THEY SAY IS IN ABUNDANCE SO
EVERYBODY COULD SEE FOR
THEMSELVES THAT THERE IS
NOTHING GOING HERE AND THEN THE
COUNTRY COULD MOVE ON?
>> I JUST NOTED FOR A YEAR, AN
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME THAT
HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
WE’VE HEARD ABOUT THESE THINGS
TO SOME DEGREE BUT WHEN YOU
BEGIN TO PARTICIPATE IN A
PRE-PLANNED, PRE-JUDGED END
RESULT, WHICH IS WHAT MANY
PEOPLE SEE THIS AS BEING.
YOU HAVE CHENEY AND KINZINGER
ON A PANEL THEY DIDN’T HAVE AN
OPEN MIND.
THEY’VE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THEIR
LOATHING OF DONALD TRUMP AND
HIS SUPPORTERS.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE VERY
SMART.
THEY ARE INFORMED CERTAINLY THE
PEOPLE WATCHING THIS NETWORK
ARE, AND THEY SEE THIS FOR WHAT
IT IS.
REMEMBER THE MUELLER HEARING.
THE DEMOCRATS PUT A LOT OF
INVESTMENT INTO THAT THINKING
IT WOULD BE THE PUNCH THAT
NAILED DONALD TRUMP.
IT DIDN’T WORK WELL FOR THE
DEMOCRATS.
I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
ALREADY KNOW, WE’VE SEEN WHAT
HAS GONE ON AND UNDERSTAND THE
VARIETY OF WHAT HAPPENED ON
THAT DAY BUT WE ALSO KNOW
POLITICAL GAS LIGHTING WHEN WE
SEE IT AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE
COUNTRY IN SUCH DIRE STRAITS
THE TIMING IS BAD.
IT SMACKS AND SMELLS OF
DESPERATION.
AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT
WORK DONE.
THEY DON’T WANT THEATER.
>> Gillian: TAMMY, IT IS TIME
FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SEATTLE
WHERE CITIZENS ARE PAYING A
STEEP PRICE RIGHT NOW FOR
OFFICIALS’ DECISION TO DEFUND
THE POLICE.
THE DEPARTMENT CAN NO LONGER
TAKE ON ANY NEW ADULT SEXUAL
ASSAULT CASES THIS YEAR.
THEY ARE AT CAPACITY.
THEY SAY THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS
OUR AGENCY TO REPORT TO SEXUAL
VIOLENCE AND CURRENT STAFFING
LEVELS.
IT IS UNATTAINABLE.
LET’S BREAK DOWN THE NUMBERS.
AT THE END OF 2019 THERE WERE
OVER 1200 DEPLOYABLE OFFICERS.
IT DROPPED TO 958 IN DECEMBER
OF 2021.
THEN FROM 2020 DURING THE
SUMMER OF DEFUND UNTIL NOW 401
OFFICERS LEFT THE FORCE, 145
NEW ONES HIRED ONLY.
ARE YOU SHOCKED?
>> NO.
WE SAW IT UNFOLD NOT JUST IN
SEATTLE BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY
WHEN YOU HAVE RHETORIC THAT
DEMONIZES LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
WHEN POLITICAL LEADERSHIP IN
DEMOCRAT CITIES DON’T HAVE THE
BACK OF THE POLICE, AND THESE
ARE PEOPLE WHO LEAVE THEIR
HOMES EVERY DAY TO GO AND RISK
THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FUTURES
FOR TOTAL STRANGERS IN THEIR
COMMUNITY.
SO OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO NOT CHOOSE THAT AS A CAREER
OR LEAVE TO GO TO A CITY THAT
DOES SUPPORT THEM.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM FOR THE
DEMOCRATS AND THE BASE IN THESE
CITIES.
THEY DON’T THINK ABOUT THE
IMPACT OF WHAT MIGHT BE
EXCITING RHETORIC BUT MY
GOODNESS, FOR EVERYBODY CARES
ABOUT BEING ABLE TO INVESTIGATE
SEXUAL ASSAULT, RAPE, THE
DYNAMIC OF WHAT HAPPENS IN
WOMEN’S LIVES IN GENERAL AND IN
EVERYONE’S LIVES AND NOW THEY
ARE SEEING THAT WAIT A MINUTE,
THE POLICE ACTUALLY DO THESE
THINGS.
THERE IS A REPERCUSSION TO THIS
KIND OF RHETORIC AND IT GOES TO
OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.
THIS IS WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED
AT THE KITCHEN TABLE.
THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS FACE
EVERY DAY, NOT JUST IN SEATTLE,
BUT IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THE
POLICE, LIKE FRANKLY HERE IN
NEW YORK, WHERE THEY MIGHT
COME, THEY MIGHT NOT COME.
OR IN LOS ANGELES WHERE YOU
HAVE D.A.s THAT WILL NOT
PROSECUTE.
THIS IS THE KITCHEN TABLE DAILY
LIFE EXPERIENCE.
AND NOW WE ARE GETTING THE
BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE OF THE
FACT THAT IT’S ONE THING TO NOT
HAVE AN OFFICER BE ABLE TO
RESPOND BUT WHEN THERE IS A
RAPE THAT IS REPORTED, THEY
CAN’T EVEN REALLY INVESTIGATE
IT.
THIS IS HORRIBLE AND THIS IS
WHAT HAS GOT TO BE DEALT WITH
AND SOLVED.
IT IS THE RHETORIC HAS DONE
THIS.
THE LACK OF FUNDING HAS DONE
THIS.
THEY HAVE EFFECTIVELY DEFUNDED
MANY DEPARTMENTS BY REROUTING
MONEY AND THIS IS WHERE THE
AMERICANS SEE DEMOCRAT
LEADERSHIP DOING AND WHY THEY
WILL BE IN SUCH TROUBLE IN
NOVEMBER ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> Gillian: THE RHETORIC THAT
LED TO THE MOVEMENT AND THE
ACTION, THE POLICY ACTION OF
DEFUNDING.
TAMMY, WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT